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    No more overclocking on Nvidia mobile GPUs

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by octiceps, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. -Jinx-

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    That's correct.

    If you download the bios mod for clevo p65xSE you get 2 folders...BIOS and vBIOS
     
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    The plot thickens...

    I tried 345.20. It isn't locked on the core BUT it is locked on the VRAM. The slider itself is unlocked (not greyed out), but it resets itself back to 0 when you click on apply in NVIDIA Inspector. So core overclocking is enabled, but VRAM clocks are still locked down.

    What does this mean? Is it a sign?
     
    Cakefish, Feb 25, 2015
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  3. octiceps

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    That is weird as hell
     
    octiceps, Feb 25, 2015
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    MickyD1234, Feb 25, 2015
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  5. octiceps

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    Uh what cave you been living in. Prema been doing his mods for years. ;)
     
    octiceps, Feb 25, 2015
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    Just to double check, I used DDU to remove the driver and tried again, after reinstalling it. Same result. Core unlocked, VRAM locked (but not greyed out in NVIDIA Inspector).

    EDIT: FALSE ALARM FOLKS! I didn't realise that the wall socket was switched off, it was running on battery the whole time, whoops :oops:

    It is working fine on AC power :)
     
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  7. bnosam

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    So just to confirm, the Alienware 17 R2s are locked even for the 980m? And you can't flash the vBios?
     
    bnosam, Feb 25, 2015
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  8. octiceps

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    Wut...u....how...I don't even...
     
    octiceps, Feb 25, 2015
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    *rofl*

    well, for now sticking to 346.87 / modded 347.52 and waiting on ngreedia´s next official "unlocked" driver
     
    jaybee83, Feb 25, 2015
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  10. DataShell

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    Psssh, it used to just be 'penny for your thoughts'!
     
    DataShell, Feb 25, 2015
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    Actually for the last 5 years I have been in my cave! Before that I was DT all the way.

    I follow his threads over in techinferno but never saw any links to a DL site. Bundling with batch files is great as well.
     
    MickyD1234, Feb 25, 2015
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    Don't think this has been posted in this thread yet, but there's a good article up on notebookcheck.net that accurately describes our plight with the latest locked down vBIOS that have been starting to ship from NVidia:
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia...king-through-a-vBIOS-based-lock.137109.0.html

    Feel free to add to the comments at the link above - it's a well read site so has quite a lot of exposure!
     
    Robbo99999, Feb 25, 2015
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    Nope the 970ms are locked!

    Same here...
     
    TomJGX, Feb 25, 2015
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    Hi Guys! I think about getting an ASUS G751 JT (with 970M 3GB GDDR5). Does ASUS also ship the Notebooks with a bios overclock lock?
    This really is a crucial question for me, so I hope that you can answer that question.
    What about the MSI GT72 (with 970M aswell, are these locked, too?? )
    I´m really pissed of, nvidia lately does everything within their powers to annoy gamers and play with their customers.
    Greetings from Germany.
    Alex
     
    Alex555, Feb 25, 2015
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    Wow! This is so professional and unbiased article. Cheers for notebookcheck
     
    James D, Feb 25, 2015
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  16. octiceps

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    Link to Prema's website is in his sig LOL
     
    octiceps, Feb 25, 2015
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    I have a feeling I will be keeping this profile picture up for quite some time and I don't want to. I won't remove it though till Nvidia stops playing these dumb games....
     
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  18. octiceps

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    Same with my sig. Staying up until Nvidia gets back to its senses.
     
    octiceps, Feb 25, 2015
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    Ok guys I just ran a quick test on my half functional laptop (with 980m):

    Aw17R2 BIOS version: 84.04.29.00.14
    Nvidia Driver: 344.73

    Can overclock core AND memory using nvidia inspector. Functions as normal overclocking would. Tried +135 mHz on both memory and core.

    My vBios dump and GPU-Z info posted:
    Nvidia clockblock part deux: vBIOS
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2015
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  20. James D

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    Hmmm, I guess the joke about Nvidia hacking NBR forum doesn't seem to look like a joke anymore.
    [​IMG]
     
    James D, Feb 25, 2015
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    ^Nah. NBR just been acting up ever since the platform downgrade.
     
    octiceps, Feb 25, 2015
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    yea I can see it just fine, but I'm using the stock layout. I liked the old setup better. Not sure why they switched. Don't fix what ain't broke!!
     
    bigtonyman, Feb 25, 2015
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    So far the only cases this has been confirmed to be playing up in are the new 2015 alienwares and clevo machines.
    Asus advertizes a "game mode" that overclocks the gpu by 5%. This is an advertized OEM default feature. Should nvidia block asus's laptops among others, they can be subject to a lawsuit as it would be downright illegal.
    I wouldnt worry about the asus being bioslocked for the time being as i dont think nvidia would want to risk another lawsuit on top of their current cases.
     
    nightingale, Feb 25, 2015
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    so is there a driver that was just released that re-enables overclock?
     
    sykozylot, Feb 25, 2015
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Give it time, I'm sure something might happen if it continues... NVIDIA said they were enabling without saying they were disabling elsewhere...

    If he's right, maxwell may have a design defect....

    Good to see the change in score to high 9K. My 970m oc'd to higher than 8023...
     
    ajc9988, Feb 25, 2015
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  26. octiceps

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    Wrong thread?
     
    octiceps, Feb 25, 2015
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    Issue I have with his conspiracy theory is where are the thousands of spontaneous RMA from? The only Maxwell that folks would have been OC'ing with are 860m, 960m, 970m and 980m. And all of these OC fine and temps are unheard of for this level of performance. There weren't mass spontaneous RMA for overclock with GPUs that ran way hotter... My 7970M and 5870M were HOT HOT HOT and still no damage from OC. He needs to show us which GPU and laptop are the cause of these mass RMAs, otherwise I don't believe him. Has anyone on NBR fried their Maxwell via OCing?
     
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    Yeah, definitely. They advertise their ROG notebooks with an OC function.
    I think I will buy the new gaming laptop within the next week, to minimize the risk of a locked vbios.
     
    Alex555, Feb 26, 2015
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    In my country headless flock of sheep run to markets buying a ton of single product like sugar, buckwheat. sunflower oil because they heard on radio/tv for such vegetables that that product will increase in price. At 7-8 p.m. you find zero on the shelves of that product already. Needless to say that next day prices skyrocket twice the original.

    Your move somehow recalled me their behavior.
     
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    I would not really compare the situation.
    I would say that food is a little more important than a notebook :eek:
    And actually I dont think that I have to defend myself for buying a product, I though buying of for a few weeks already ;)
     
    Alex555, Feb 26, 2015
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    no money for Nvidia. Grabbing a 2920xm/780m for my r3 and it should last me a couple more years @1080p. :D
     
    bigtonyman, Feb 27, 2015
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    Unless AMDs next card is named 780M, something's off with this statement.
     
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    Maybe it's a used 780M? :p
     
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    Hey guys did you saw this video with this guy how did he oc that 970m??
    I know its off topic but im amazed how fast he oc his card!!!! :eek:
    what vbios is he using??
    And he is playing with that clocks all games stable!!! :eek:
    wtf????!!!
     
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    Holy hell he has that chip's core over +500!?!

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    Yeah that's kingsknight from T|I, making as good a case as any for why overclocking is beneficial and should be allowed :D
     
    octiceps, Feb 28, 2015
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    That's insanity that he pulled that much from the 970M, I wonder what temps he's getting with that. I am starting to think I should have pushed for 970M SLI instead of the 980M offer they gave me. Or maybe I should just buy a new laptop in a few months.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    Why, nobody has gotten 1500+ core on a 980M?
     
    octiceps, Feb 28, 2015
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    I wonder if I can oc that much too??
    what volt is he using?
     
    kolias, Feb 28, 2015
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    Maybe on single GPU if you have a good one
     
    octiceps, Feb 28, 2015
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    I think he's running around 1.162v through that 970m to achieve those clocks. Look at his video showing the laptop, and freeze screen on his NV Inspector.

    I added 0.887v (stock max) + .275mV offset.

    Not sure how long the 970m will last at that much voltage, even if the temps are fine.
     
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    It can be done I'm sure but stable? Doubtful. And the amount of heat that would be generated would be a ***** to deal with under a full load. I certainly won't be pushing mine. I've already seen 88C with stock clocks when pushing the AA. It's freezing here in CO, if I had extra money to replace fried cards I'd take it outside and push the limits but I'm broke and tired of spending money on this machine lol.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    If he temps are good then i dont think that he will have problems...
    My temps at 1320-1478 at 1.05v are 64-65c playing bf4 multy fully stable
    And no max fans on
     
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    It's not surprising that 970M has more OC headroom than 980M
     
    octiceps, Feb 28, 2015
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    Temps can be good on the core but there are other components too.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    It's no wonder Nvidia tried to disable overclocking.

    There is just so much OC potential with these 2nd gen Maxwells.
     
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    0.0887v is downclocked voltage. As far as I know those cards Apparently only 980Ms are 1.062v or 1.1v at stock. I know the 780Ms are 1v at stock and I know Maxwell has more.
     
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    With Svl7's vBIOS, my 970M can easily hold full boost clocks with 0.95V... These Maxwell chips are unbelieveable!
     
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    Is the 970M's stock voltage really under 1v? I'm fairly sure 980Ms were higher than 1v at stock. If so, that probably explains things.
     
    D2 Ultima, Feb 28, 2015
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    It was 1.0 something.. I can't remember because literally 1-2 days after I got it, I flashed unlocked vBIOS :D
     
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