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    Nvidia 8600M performance, general discussion

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mD-, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    As of now, it's not acceleratable. The programs that support it won't accelerate it (last time I checked anyways). You can turn it on in MPC, but it will be slower then (I tried). CoreAVC will add it sometime in the future.

    First off Only have one codec pack installed. Remove every thing you got and the install the latest version of CCCP. I Usually watch 720p mkv with my CPU clocked to 1,6GHz. If you open it in Media player Classic (comes with CCCP) you'll get slightly better performance than in WMP. VLC is not as good. But the best is still CoreAVC.
     
  2. hyakku

    hyakku Notebook Geek

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    Heh, I'm more than satisfied with my 8600M GT in my 1520, that review seems a bit off. I run bioshock at 30+ fps with almost everything maxed, DX 10 surfaces and all. I've got my card steadily clocked at 625/525 never broke 65 C yet so :).
     
  3. Triple_Dude

    Triple_Dude Notebook Evangelist

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    CCCP is the only codec pack I have installed--I know that you'll have filter/codec conflicts if you install multiple codec packs. I also use Media Player Classic to play all my media files.

    It works fine, but it seems that during certain "scenes" where there are a lot of "action" and "colour", the video would chug--Kind of weird, since every single pixel is still being processed even when there isn't as much colour on the screen, right? There shouldn't be any difference between a really dark scene and a scene filled with colour, in theory...

    That only occured for a Blu-Ray 720p movie that was ripped and converted into a .mkv.

    None movie 720p .mkv's play without any hic-cups (in general)... Odd. Maybe it's just that particular file's fault.

    EDIT: If I use CoreAVC, would I have to uninstall CCCP to avoid conflict? Or is that not necessary?
    By the way, what program are you using to measure your GPU's temperature?

    I use SpeedFan and nMonitor (NVIDIA Monitor, it comes with nTune), but nMonitor reports 7C cooler temperature than SpeedFan, weird :confused:.
     
  4. someone777

    someone777 Notebook Evangelist

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    :O i was wondering: doesn't the 8600m gt crack up when it goes above 600 or is it 650?? i thought it was 600. anyway to test the artifacts for 8600m gt? i use ati tool but i guess it isn;t stable enough for nvidia, ill need different software. thks
     
  5. Dragonpet

    Dragonpet Notebook Evangelist

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    Looks like you were right, certain player accelerates certain files, I got the new WMP 11 with acceleration for WMV and tested on a downloaded PureVideo 1080p demo, and it had reduced cpu usage by roughly 10%, which was pretty good imo. The file I was testing before under 720p was mkv, which apparently could not be accelerated at all. :(
     
  6. havoc531

    havoc531 Notebook Evangelist

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    nTune wont install and I cant overclock the stream processors! HELP! I have been using RivaTuner and am at 600/500.
     
  7. Triple_Dude

    Triple_Dude Notebook Evangelist

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    Umm... The Core clock IS the stream processor's clock.

    You CANNOT clock the stream processors individually. They run at the same clock as the "Core clock".
     
  8. hyakku

    hyakku Notebook Geek

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    Mine is running flawlessly at 625/525, no shutdowns, no excessive temps, nada. I use the nvidia monitor to check and also used riva tuner but they are about the same give or take a few degrees sometimes, regardless I haven't even reached 65 C on either one of them yet, so I'm not too worried at all.
     
  9. havoc531

    havoc531 Notebook Evangelist

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    my mistake... is it shaders? the second (600/ 1200/500) part of the oc.
     
  10. odin243

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    That's the shader clock, correct. The "core" clock is for the ROP's I beleive. You can overclock the shader's in the newest Rivatuner, with >163.44 drivers, I believe.
     
  11. sellick

    sellick Notebook Guru

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    anybody know why i sometimes get this miniscule amount of lag every couple of seconds ingame (CoD4) ... its like the whole computer freezes for just this really small amount of time (under 1 second..) im going to install earlier drivers WITHOUT any GPU overclocks and see if that solves my problems......... cause it worked fine before.
     
  12. sellick

    sellick Notebook Guru

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    oh god now i dont really care. mr delivery guy came with my razer deathadder.
     
  13. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    No, as it will override the H.264 part of FFdshow (which can be turned off manually as well).
     
  14. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    anyone know a good stability test for long periods of time?
     
  15. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Hello

    Ive been reading about shadows etc on this thread and Im quite interested but I am a n00b in this area. If someone could lend a hand and explain a little on what exactly it is, how much performance boost i would recieve aswell as on how to do it.

    My Laptop is

    Vostro 1500 (JAPAN(

    T7100 1.8Ghz
    obviously 8600M GT 256mb (I have Japanese drivers installed and wondoring if i can swap to english somehow)
    1Gb ddr2 ram
    Windows xp home *JAPANESE*!!!!!

    Thanks in advance
     
  16. sellick

    sellick Notebook Guru

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    gah..... i keep getting this issue. its also on some menu's. such as, in fear , the menu lags at like 1fps, and in cod4 when u start the level, the briefing, lags as well
     
  17. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    wow... raised up the backside of my laptop with a book and saw a 7c temp decrease. I'm no longer worried about OC temps
     
  18. borland

    borland Notebook Geek

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    forget about a book and get cheap but good usb-fed cooling pad. you will be able to go even higher with OC and not be worried about overheating
     
  19. daniel_g

    daniel_g Notebook Consultant

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    Cooling pad is a waste :p

    My notebook runs BF2 at 52C with everything at high, using a USB hub under the battery.

    It also helps that my house is so freeking cold ;)
     
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    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    How do I tell if my 8600m gs has ddr2 or ddr3?
     
  21. Dragonpet

    Dragonpet Notebook Evangelist

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    RivatTuner, or look at the stock clock, 400 mhz memory is DDR2. and 700 mhz is GDDR3.
     
  22. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    You can try Using GPUz as well.
     
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    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, I installed Riva Tuner...it's ddr3!
     
  24. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    What's your laptop?
     
  25. sly

    sly m1530 owner!!!

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    yeah cause riva tuner can sometimes be wrong
     
  26. dinkydow

    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Fabarati, my laptop is an HP DV9653CL, 2.2GHz T7500, 4GB ram, 320GB HDD, 8600M GS. Costco price was $1399 with a 90 day unconditional return. My first choice was a ASUS an Newegg but the 90 day test drive sold me.
     
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    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Correction...stock was 2GB ram. I installed another 2x2GB sticks of Corsair ram today.
     
  28. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    was the Asus 8600M GS or GT?
     
  29. dinkydow

    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Asus G1S-A1, 8600M GT. But, I'm not a hard core gamer although I play Crysis (low settings) and COD4 (medium settings). I'm contemplating fooling around with the clock speeds. What's safe for the 8600M GS.
     
  30. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    Your laptop has DDR2 video memory. Rivatuner is not accurate for mobile cards. You could try Everest or GPU-Z to confirm this, but if you just look at your clock speeds you'll see the mem is at 400mhz, i.e. DDR2.
     
  31. ziggo0

    ziggo0 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm going out on a limb here, but why haven't you guys just used Coolbits to enable the Clock Frequency menu in the nV Control Panel? Or does that not work with mobile cards...I don't see any reason it shouldn't.
     
  32. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    Coolbits won't tell you what type of memory you have, which is what she was asking about.
     
  33. dinkydow

    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    You're right, GPU-Z says DDR2, Rivatuner maximum clock speed is 750/600.
     
  34. dinkydow

    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Actually, I'm a she.
     
  35. odin243

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    750/600 doesn't sound at all right for that card. What did GPU-Z say the default clocks were?
     
  36. dinkydow

    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    500MHz/400MHz. Thanks for the help guys!
     
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    Owner: Anonymous Submitted: 2007-12-07 14:36:25
    Owner's Comments:
    GPU: G86 M Revision: A2
    Technology: 80 nm Die Size: 0 mm²
    BIOS Version: Device ID: 10DE - 0425
    Bus Interface: PCI-E x16 @ x16 Subvendor: Hewlett-Packard Company (103C)
    ROPs: 8 Shaders: 16 (DX 10.0)
    Pixel Fillrate: 4.0 GPixel/s Texture Fillrate: 4.0 GTexel/s
    Memory Type: DDR2 Bus Width: 128 bit
    Memory Size: 256 MB Bandwidth: 12.8 GB/s
    Driver: nvlddmkm 7.15.11.5665 (ForceWare 156.65) / Vista
    GPU Clock: 500 MHz 400 MHz
    Default Clock: 0 MHz 0 MHz
    Overclock: +-100% +-100%
     
  38. sly

    sly m1530 owner!!!

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    if u had gotten the asus then it would be ddr3
     
  39. dinkydow

    dinkydow Notebook Enthusiast

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    I still might do that. I've got 72 more days to return this to Costco.
     
  40. sly

    sly m1530 owner!!!

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    the preformace difference is significant so if u can and want more power u should
     
  41. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    It also is a GT instead of a GS.
     
  42. dinkydow

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    Problem is I love the HP's 17" screen so that makes me look at a G2S which is $550 more at Newegg.
     
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    The screen is awesome. I have a 9500t myself and I’m a casual gamer. Actually the only game I can play for more than a few minutes(before losing interest) is CS:S. I’d recommend the 169.04 drivers and installing RivaTuner to adjust the clock up the factory spec keeping in mind it is DDR2. I didn’t have good results with ntune I’m guessing because there was no adjustment for the shader clock. In small increments take it up to 600/1200/450 that will give you stable performance and a 3DMark06 score of about 2850 if you take the memory clock up to 480 you will get a score of about 2950 but every once in a while(rarely) I would experience a driver crash at this setting.
     
  44. odin243

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    You can get a G2s for around $1500 open box, or a new G2K for around $1600.
     
  45. AHHHRT

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    Just picked up a 3dmark06 score of 3421. I think it's decent, but is there anyway for my to improve it?

    I've got a small amount of experience overclocking, but have only dabbled in GPU overclocking once. Any help would be appreciated. (I.E the utilities I should obtain to help me overclock).
     
  46. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    Well, having the newest drivers can increase the score, as well as making sure all unnecessary programs and processes are closed.

    For overclocking, I personally like Rivatuner. There are plenty of great guides around if you google for them, one on Rivatuner's forum.
     
  47. Ti-Jean11

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    i wonder if i could run nfs pro street at max settings with a dell inspiron 1520
    core2 duo 7250 2.0 GHZ 2mb cache
    nvidia 8600m gt
    3GB memory
    160GB 7200rpm
     
  48. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    the 1720 runs it well on medium... It gets laggy at resolutions over 12x8
     
  49. Ti-Jean11

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    thx about that ill prob get my 1520 in a week... hope the performance with pro street will be good
    my old desktop cant run this game
     
  50. harrykim

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    I am thinking of buying the dell inspiron 1520 with core2duo 2ghz proccessor and 2gb ddr2 ram and 8600mgt, can you tell how well this computer will run NWN2 and its expansion.

    Thanks in advanced.
     
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