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    Nvidia 8600M performance, general discussion

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mD-, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    better compatibility probably, but from what I've experienced, lame performance. I can live with an occasional game crash if I'm getting much better performance.
     
  2. thomaskc.dk

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    Has anyone else had problems with 169.25 on vista? (vista x64) they simply wont install right, never recognizes the graphiccard. Pretty wierd.. had no problems with the rest of the 169.xx. makes no difference if i use those from nvidia.com or laptopvideo2go or whatever. modded inf used, tried the one for 169.21 (works) too, same thing.
     
  3. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

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    Vista x64 and 169.25 whql and beta here, on both no problems what so ever...

    Try Driver Cleaner or Driver Sweeper thats free. If something is left over by the nvidia uninstaller, that programs can give some help removing that older files and registry keys.

    ;)
     
  4. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    I get 57 fps in the css stress test , using dells custom drivers!

    -> got a geforce 8600 gt and 2 ghz core 2 duo



    everything at high / and max aa and stuff!

    What about you guys , what do people with different drivers get ? I wanna see if there is an actual performance boost by using laptopvideo2go drivers.
     
  5. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    What version are the dell drivers?S
     
  6. Triple_Dude

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    The latest one Dell released is based on the 156.68 driver release, I believe.
    There are no performance gains using LV2Go's modified "INF's". There are sometimes performance gains from using the newer drivers, which aren't from LV2Go, but from nVidia ;).
     
  7. chrusti

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    Yeh w/e , what about someone posts any results and could actually help?

    So I get 57 fps with everything MAXED , except VS ofcourse!


    Anyone ? I wanna see if newer drivers will actually boost the performance.
     
  8. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    what resolution are you running it at? 1440x900? I got 60 PFS with 16xAA and 16xAF at 1280x800, stock clocks. at 1440x900 it was around 44 FPS. I'm running the 169.04 drivers, and was getting about the same with the 169.25. I'll post my overclocked results later. I'd you run the benchmark with your overclock?

    EDIT: at a 500/445 overclock, my results were 67 FPS as 12x8 and 50 FPS at 14x9. I couldn't stably overclock my memory to 458 like yours... so I left it at the highest stable overclock of 445.
     
  9. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    i am at 1280 , could u redo them with that resolution pls ? thanks :D


    *edit* ups nvm i didnt read that first part , thanks a lot.
    So you get just 3 fps more , I dont think its worth updating my driver for that :/
    Yeah I think 458 is the absolute max i can do , just 1 mhz more and many artefacts will occur :eek:
    Oh I read some posts in this forum where ppl could get 500+ mhz , which seems so much to me !
     
  10. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    And Chrusti, what driver version is the one you are using? The stock ones or the latest taken from the Dell homepage? What is it's driver number?
     
  11. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    R160738

    I just noticed that dell has new ones R173730 , I will try them now :)
     
  12. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    Hmm, run Dxdiag, go to the display tab and post the driver version stated there.
     
  13. odin243

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    That's not the driver version, that's Dell's release number. I believe that one is Forceware 101.38. The R173730 is 156.83, which is still pretty old.
     
  14. someone777

    someone777 Notebook Evangelist

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    today i was horified with the performance of the 8600m GT in battlefield 2 and company of heroes. in battlefield 2, i am getting 20~30fps in bf2 on the highest while 20~60fps on the lowest.. and getting >30fps in company of heroes i don;t get it..
     
  15. Mimino

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    which drivers? try using 169.04 from laptopvideo2go.com
     
  16. someone777

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    well i have to check right now. i am on xp so i don;t know. however my score for 3dbench06 is close to 3000 with 196.04 i think there i something wrong. i lost 400points already. i don;t know why exactly but i am sure it is either drive or my gpu is gone insane. little help plz?
     
  17. Mimino

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    make sure ur power options are alright and are set for performance. other than that, just play with the settings a bit
     
  18. someone777

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    now it is at 1700points in vista T.T omg.
    is it because i am running on the external screen?
    op got it back to 3000 by your suggestion but where is 400points?
     
  19. Mimino

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    what's the screen res that u've used for testing?
     
  20. someone777

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    it is "basic" so 1280x1024
    i don;t think it doesn;t matter. i don;t have pro or other one. i just only have that resolution. and currently i am using external dell monitor instead of laptop's
     
  21. Mimino

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    i don't think it should matter.
    whenever u reinstalled those drivers, did u do a clean install(meaning u deleted the previous drivers)? did u check u power settings?
     
  22. someone777

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    power setting brought it up but i don;t really do the "clean" install. i mean if i do that the computer would go back to the dell drivers. so i just update it using the i have the disk method. however this shouldn;t matter. i did this for 10 times already.
     
  23. Mimino

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    it's always better to clean stuff up b4 u move on to the next best thing.
    all i do is, i uninstall the old ones from the control panel, restart in safe mode and use driver cleaner pro to clean up some crap that was left over, after that just restart in normal mode and install the new ones. take less than 5 minutes literally.
     
  24. someone777

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    no i mean the window installs it automatically to the dell stock driver...
     
  25. odin243

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    When you got 3400 pts, what screen were you using? Because 3000 is just about right for a 1280x1024 score.
     
  26. someone777

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    same. i use the basic version on all the benchmarks i did
     
  27. odin243

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    Were you overclocked? Because at stock clocks, the 1700 will not get 3400 in 3dmark06 at 1280x1024.
     
  28. someone777

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    that might be true..
    i better check
     
  29. someone777

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    I assume you mean lozanogo? He was running at 1280x800, not 1280x1024.
     
  31. thomaskc.dk

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    Anyone tested out either the new omega drivers or drivers from Tweakforce with vista ?
     
  32. dmacfour

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    I am getting 3600 with stock clocks at 1280x800
     
  33. ziggo0

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    I tried the XG 169.04's last night and I lost a few frames compared to 169.04
     
  34. Mimino

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    try omega's 169.21(that's for xp) or 169.25(vista). i'm on 21's right now and performing way better than 169.04 from l2g
     
  35. thomaskc.dk

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    Omega for some unknown reason doesnt make vista x64 drivers :/

    But i just installed 169.04 l2g today, and hit the best score i 3dmark (stock) ever. 3998 in 1280x768 without ocing.
     
  36. chrusti

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    If you dont mind could u test how many points u get in 3d mark 06 with a 1280x800 ? thx
     
  37. Mimino

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    i got 3746. the highest i got was 3750 with some other drivers at stock speeds
     
  38. thomaskc.dk

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    I still dont get why niether Nvidia or any of the laptop producent have come up with a solution to the worldwide HUGE problem with the 8600m gfxcards and their stuttering problems? I don't buy the stuff about that it is a driver issue, because this only happens on these cards (some 8800 has been reported too i think, but the 8xxx series), and the drivers all around run just fine on other cards, like my older 7600 go.

    It's quite silly if you ask me, i have multi thousand dollar laptop which in games are completely useless at the moment because even though the gfxcard can produce fine speeds, games just stutter/lag/jump-around call it what you want so much its unplayable. The only game ive been able to mostly fix is WoW by limiting the game to go over 50 fps max. that works as long the game is between 45-50 fps, when it goes to 41 the stuttering gets back.

    For me it seems like even small fps changes over a short time makes the 8600 stutter like HELL. Which only happens on other series with huge fps changes over short time. like from 100 to 30fps.

    So whats the damn deal anyway ?!? Do we need a 8600m BIOS update ?! or when will this stupid malfunction end.... yeah i know people who dont have a clue since its out of ours (the users) hands. But im beginning to become one unhappy and very disapointed laptop user.

    That's all for now ;-)
     
  39. chrusti

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    Got any pics , thats impressive !

    what about overclocked?
     
  40. tymonc

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    hey.
    im not quite sure what to do with video drivers and whatnot..

    but what are the latest and best drivers for the 8600m gt and where can i get them?
    im running vista 32 bit ps.

    thanks :)
     
  41. thomaskc.dk

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    I can advice either 169.25 or 169.04 (im using these at the moment and they seem to be fast).

    www.laptopvideo2go.com is the place to find your drivers.
     
  42. Mimino

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    yeah, i can post some screens. keep in mind, the resolution is 1280*800(not by 1024)
     
  43. chrusti

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    lol your direct x version is 9.0c. shouldn't it be 10.0?
    i think something is wrong. i mean 3560 on demo with the "demo" resolution? man you can even beat big v's score on that.
     
  45. crow11ad

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    If you check his sig...he is running XP...Direct X 10 is for Vista.
     
  46. someone777

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    :p good point
    but it is true that he can beat big v's score
    with what big v's test resolution was
     
  47. tymonc

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    alright thanks sooooo much :D

    ill try them out
     
  48. tymonc

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    oh and sorry for double posting.. i didnt even see this at first :/

    but that interesting haha. too bad i already installed new ones..
    i have a vostro 1500 also :D

    but my problem is with some random fps drops in battlefield 2142 so ill see
     
  49. Mimino

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    here's mine: it's an excel chart :)

    [​IMG]
     
  50. circa86

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    i am not sure if this is supposed to only be about the 8600m gs,

    but the 8600m GT 256mb in my MBP gets 4120 in 3dmark06 with the basic demo settings. and 7736 in 3dmark05

    this is using the 167.44 drivers provided by Apple for bootcamp.
     
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