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    Nvidia GTX 680MX?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Tyranids, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. RamGuy

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    I might actually replace my desktop gaming rigs with iMac 27" Intel Core i7-3770, 16GB RAM and GTX 680 MX...

    Why? Well because nothing is really pushing desktop hardware any more, I've had my Rampage IV Extreme, Intel Core i7-3960X and GTX 690 for a while now and I simply can't do it any justice. I barely play games anymore because we seldom get anything for the PC in the first place, and those I play tends to not push the hardware at all... Having such powerful, noisy hardware draining loads of power for basically nothing is just a huge waste in my opinion.


    I'm considering building a Mini-ITX, low power Haswell with dedicated GPU in the lines of a GTX 660 - GTX 680 or something, saves me a lot of space and power.. Or simply go with the iMac 27" which saves me even more space, looks awesome, features a really nice display and is capable of running Windows 8 natively using EFI so there won't be any problem getting gaming to work flawlessly.. The big question is whether the GTX 680 MX will be able to cut it performance wise or not, considering the 2560x1440 resolution and everything.
     
  2. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    havent you saw the gaming figures? decide for yourself, and you can always overclock it, according to the posting the temps are fine and the cooling doesnt make a lot of noise, very large headroom in there for some ocing
     
  3. ssj92

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    I have a similar desktop configuration. Have you tried running Metro2033 with everything maxed out (including turning on advanced DOF) @ 2560x1600? Give it a try. :D Maybe try surround at 7680x1600, your computer will suffer! ;)


    About the 680MX, I really hope nvidia brings it to a 100w TDP on an MXM card. Is it solder on a mac or its mxm?
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    Some variation of MXM.
     
  5. ssj92

    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    Were any pictures of the card released? I can't seem to find any.

    It'll be interesting to see the difference of the 680MX vs the 8970M.
     
  6. HTWingNut

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  7. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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  8. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    for those who like videos

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770 Processor,Apple Inc. Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4 score: P6755 3DMarks
    for those who like numbers
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

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    But that was the 2009 iMac with the HD 4670, so nothing to get too excited about. Can't find anything on the new one yet.
     
  11. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Guessing Apple probably throttled/downclocked the 680MX and really controlling the TDP on it. Also a strangle hold over it, no playing with the 680MX, you get what they want you to have and no more. Still better off getting a 680M on an Alienware/MSI/Clevo and jacking it up sounds to me.
     
  13. ssj92

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  14. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    but we dont know how far can the 680MX be pushed yet, until someone in this forum get a hand on one that will still be a mystery
     
  15. HTWingNut

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    I was able to push my 680m to about 7900 or so but that was with an OV. Seems the iMac is not the best platform to make the card shine though.
     
  16. ssj92

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    Definitely not, unless someone overvolts it in boot camp(bios/windows).
     
  17. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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  19. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    hmm, you are right. I think that taobao is kinda like ebay though so perhaps they just don`t offer all the products there like they do in their own shop?
    I don`t think they have faked the picture in the thread I linked to so I\m counting on that its coming

    But who knows
     
  20. Silverfern

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    think it will come as 780m or 785m, doubt nvidia will release another 600 series card this late
     
  21. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    780M no doubt :)
     
  22. Silverfern

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    yeah i am personally waiting for the 780m, hopefully price isnt too high :S, otherwise i will get the 680m when the price drop a bit more after 780m comes out
     
  23. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    The site works now :)
    This 680MX will cost additional $478 over 675MX.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Sorry Cloudfire, but they corrected it to GTX680M...guess we will have to wait for 7series...
     
  25. Cloudfire

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    Ah, well thats it then. I`m through discussing the 680MX. No more energy is gonna be used on it. Its coming, no its not. Look here its on this website, no they changed it. Just release the damn thing :D

    Thanks Prema. I`m in no hurry anways. Will not buy a new notebook until Haswell is here, and it should be here along with 780M. Good times coming :D
     
  26. long2905

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    what if...what if...780M is also a rebadge...god I hope not.
     
  27. TheBlackIdentity

    TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist

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    780m will be the 680mx with a tweaked core aka gk114 while the 770m will be the 680m with the same upgrades. If we're lucky.... ;)
     
  28. failwheeldrive

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    If we're lucky, yeah. But knowing Nvidia, the 775m will probably be a rebadged 680m. You could be right on the 780m though.
     
  29. Cloudfire

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    What clocks are you guessing for the 780M? Same as 680M just more cores?
     
  30. Kevin

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    If the 680MX indeed becomes the 780M, I might need to wait until the GTX 880M comes. That is, if my laptop lives until 2014.
     
  31. Meaker@Sager

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    I think they will keep it to 100W so fully unlocked core but with slow 900mhz (or maybe 1000mhz) low voltage memory.
     
  32. TheBlackIdentity

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    Same everything just with a power optimized core. I wouldn't bet money on the 680mx becomeing the 780m though. Getting a 122W card to 100W would be quite a feat without a dieshrink. :p
    Nvidia should use XDR 2 ram for the 780m. That would deffinitely help powerconsumption.

    Maxwell will be amazing if Nvidia can keep them selves to their target of 80% perf./watt improvement over Kepler. Would be nice to see a 122W Maxwell on a completely new MXM board.
    Imagine two of those in SLI. :D Pretty sure that'll stay in the realm of dreams though. lol
     
  33. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The 680MX is not going to be the 780M, LOL. The 680MX was an experiment for Apple so they could fit all that crap in a thinner screen on the iMac. The 780M is going to be based off the 680M with a slight performance increase, while making it more efficient.

    Making the 780M a down-clocked version of the 680MX would be more difficult than basing it off the 680M and improving the architecture, and it would completely restrain us from being able to overclock as much as you do with the current 680M!

    Theoretically possible, but not plausible. Don't get your hopes up so high fellas. It's better to be reasonable and then later impressed, rather than unreasonable and later disappointed. Sounds weird, but think "re-brand", and if it's not, WOOT!
     
  34. hackness

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    Could possibly be another GeForce 400M > 500M scene, 680M slight OC and become a 780M... Then they go with the same advertisement, "Next gen" blah blah.
     
  35. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That's my guess. If I had to bet on it, I'd say it's basically a re-brand year for several companies to boost revenue. The only thing new is Haswell, and that's not even all that great. I think this stuff gets hyped up too much and turns out worse than expected, way too often.

    I'm not saying there won't be any increase in performance, but it probably won't be as substantial as the 580M to 680M leap.
     
  36. Cloudfire

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    Well Nvidia is pretty soon out with their Titan GPUs GK110 for consumers.
    Geforce Titan, pretty cool name.

    NVIDIA Reportedly Preparing GeForce Titan GPU With GK110 Core

    I think GTX 780M will be based on it :p
     
  37. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That's referring to a desktop GPU, it is completely different.
     
  38. Cloudfire

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    A) I was joking (lol obviously :p)
    and
    B) Mobile GPUs are based on desktop GPUs
     
  39. Meaker@Sager

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    Yeah Nvidia don't think it's even the best option for desktops let alone notebooks :p

    Not quite time for a 7 billion transistor chip for mobile yet.
     
  40. HTWingNut

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    It's par for the course. Only with every new design and/or die shrink are there appreciable improvements. Haswell from a CPU perspective really won't offer much over Ivy Bridge. But Maxwell from nVidia in 2014 will be a significant improvement, should be twofold over current gen Kepler.
     
  41. jaug1337

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    I am expecting some insane things to go down on 2014.. Intel and nVIDIA are going to bomb it, just wondering what kind of goodies AMD will reveal ;)
     
  42. Cloudfire

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    I agree with HTWing.
    If you`re not a bencher or someone who HAVE to own the very latest, there is no need to upgrade from 680M until 880M. Although 780M will have 12% more cores than 680M (I hope) it will be hotter since its the same architecture and same nm.

    Maxwell will bring a lot new to the table. Too bad its 2014 :/
     
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    It does not have to be, look at the 480 to 580 (desktop), getting to know a process and tuning your chip to it can yield some nice improvements.
     
  44. Cloudfire

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    hmm, you are right. I just looked at the techpowerup review of 580, and the jump from 480 to 580 gave 15% better performance but 12% less power consumption. Pretty amazing architecture improvement right there

    But wasn`t that (480/480M) one of Nvidia`s mishaps? Could it happen again you think?
     
  45. J.Dre

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    2014 / 2015 will be great if NVIDIA sticks with its current routine. Imagine a single 800 series mobile card being twice as powerful as the 680M, just as the 680M is to the 580M, now that would be amazing. That's what I'm going to be awaiting.

    Look at me. Don't even have my system yet and I'm already anticipating the launch of a GPU two generations ahead. :D
     
  46. Cloudfire

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    LOL yeah its easy getting exited about stuff like that when you`re a geek. Sometimes hard too, like having to wait for 2014 :p

    Pretty nice beast you have ordered btw. 680M SLI and 3940XM and 512SSD in Raid0. That must have cost a fortune?
     
  47. failwheeldrive

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    We've got a new challenger for highest laptop benchmarks now :D Enjoy the new laptop j.dre!
     
  48. J.Dre

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    I purchased the SSD's aftermarket, but they are still expensive as hell ($1025).

    I just hope I don't have issues again. I ordered three days ago and my order already shipped, which is odd and makes me worry. My first system took two weeks to build, this one took two days.

    If I have issues, I will return it and get a desktop.

    Ha, we will see about that. Don't think I can beat John, he has pretty much mastered it. And he has the same specs as me, so I just wait for him to bench and think to myself, "So, that's what my baby can do, thanks John." :D
     
  49. failwheeldrive

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    Yeah, johnksss is pretty legendary lol. It's a wicked laptop anyway, I'm sure you'll love it.

    As for the build time, that does sound really quick, but I ordered my M17x on the 15th and it shipped today. When I spoke with one of the guy's at Xotic last week, they told me not to order from Alienware because it would take a month or two for delivery lol. Glad he was wrong.

    I think it's just a slow time after the holiday rush, so we get to benefit with quick delivery. My sales rep (Bianca) also gave me free overnight delivery, so I will be getting my new laptop tomorrow :D
     
  50. Kevin

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    I'll lock in my prediction now:

    The 780M will be a GK114 version of the GK104 680MX.
     
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