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    Nvidia GTX 680MX?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Tyranids, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. J.Dre

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    Assuming they don't change anything to account for this.

    None of us can definitely say anything at this point, ha ha, except the 680MX uses more power and will provide better performance (even if it's slightly better). We'll just have to wait...and I gotta say, I am quite tired of waiting.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

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    The reason I say that is that the release 680M bioses DELIBERATELY throttled performance regardless of power consumption when clocked above the original threshold overclock. Considering you could get over it at stock voltage and the card worked fine with a 10% overvolt at 1.07ghz with the ES bios then it was for no good reason except to stop people pushing it.

    Clocks would bounce back and forth and ruin performance. The earlier bios that we got hold of did not have this "feature" put in.
     
  3. stubakka

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    Hello All, I placed my order for my CLEVO based Sager NP9730 today with an 680M 4GB in it, Should i I be worried about an stoping my order or just see about getting a 680MX down the line, this is my first laptop that will have upgradable options like the videocard so ii am kind of new to the whole thing.
     
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    Not in the slightest.
     
  5. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Was offered a good deal for an M18x, so I took it. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be just fine. At least now I don't have to wait...and wait. If the 680MX does become available, I'll be disappointed because the value of the 680M will decrease - not because of the performance differences, but as of right now I'm pretty happy with what I have coming.
     
  6. HTWingNut

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    There's always something better, faster around the corner. Any gaming notebook value will decrease significantly over a span of months. This time next year you'll be hard pressed to sell your M18x for 2/3 the cost it is new today. After 18 months, probably about 1/2.
     
  7. J.Dre

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    Yeah, it's pretty hard to digest. I'm sure my system will be good for a few years though. If the R3 is amazingly different, or they come out with another flagship system, I may upgrade. But I highly doubt I will anytime soon.
     
  8. Cloudfire

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    LOL sick beast you have ordered. Congrats. The 680M is serving me well :)
     
  9. Zymphad

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    Don't worry about, the 680M should last a few years. By the time you need to upgrade, you may want to upgrade the whole system. I don't think Haswell will be worth upgrading to, so wait the next year. By then maybe we'll have LCD's that are HD4K, or at least better than 1080p with IPS, anti-reflective tech, who knows maybe even Gorilla glass to protect it. Maybe by then you'll be able to have dual 750GB SSD at an affordable price and faster DDR4. Just saying, I wouldn't worry about it.
     
  10. spybenj

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    Btw, iMac prices were released, to upgrade from a 675mx to a 680mx it's $150
     
  11. J.Dre

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    Thanks bro. I can't wait to get it...

    Pretty good advice here. I still have about two weeks before it arrives. If the 680MX is going to be available, it will be this December - any later makes absolutely no sense because of the 700 series GPU about six months away and Haswell CPU's this spring. Maybe I'll have time to return and swap! :p Either way, I'm not worried. I'm sure as everyone says, the 680M is going to be awesome.

    Post 300! :cool:
     
  12. Cloudfire

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    We can always overclock up to 680MX and a little beyond anyways
     
  13. HTWingNut

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    This. When games start to struggle, I'll just use a higher voltage BIOS and up clock to my heart's content. But I don't see that happening for at least another year, and I've had my laptop almost 5 months already :eek:
     
  14. J.Dre

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    So, anyone hear anything about the 680MX being available for Alienware? Or is it only for Apple's pretty iMac? I see the 670MX and 675MX are available for MSI and Sager.
     
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    Once the 680MX is even NEAR release nVIDIA will go crazy with their PR. Trust me.
     
  16. J.Dre

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    It's already available, just not on Alienware. Starting to think it won't be... :(
     
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    Apparently not officially, no drivers no nothing.

    Once it hits the gaming market (which I still question whether it does or not) it'll hit it with a bang, nVIDIA will make sure it does.
     
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    Not gonna happen. I forsee GTX 685m for 100W MXM configs with faster stock clocks, nothing more.
     
  20. J.Dre

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    Benchmarks on the iMac would be very different than they would on a gaming laptop anyway. I don't see the 680MX being in a laptop, the power consumption is too high and heat would be an issue. They'd have to redesign the PSU and chassis to account for this GPU, which doesn't seem to be worth it. Or they could down-clock it, but that defeats the purpose of getting it in the first place, ha ha.
     
  21. HSN21

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    It's coming 100000% to laptops according to nvidia and we went through all of this a while ago read previous pages.
     
  22. Cloudfire

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    Uhm, you`re right. I thought 3DMark also worked on Mac. What a shame
     
  23. HTWingNut

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    Source for this? There's no confirmation it's even standard MXM IIIb.

    Does the card exist? Yes it does. It's up to laptop manufacturers to incorporate it into their systems. Will it be a straight upgrade in a current Clevo, Alienware, MSI or otherwise? Likely not.
     
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    Personally, Like I said before, I think the OEMs would be much better off waiting for the improved architecture, GTX 780M before releasing the fully GK104.
     
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    Although we are so far ahead there's no point to release a 685M.

    If I am correct some awesome things are going to happen once Haswell jumps out.
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

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    We are still 5-6 months out from haswell being actually available in interesting machines.
     
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    Thats the month I`m selling this notebook :p
     
  28. vuman619

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    Same! imagine 780m in SLI =]
     
  29. hackness

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    If you managed to use that iMac on your lap then I'd 100000% say yes :D

    By the way could you provide a source? Pretty interesting.
     
  30. jaug1337

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    Wait another 2 month from that, then we'll have stable drivers and new SSD's and HDD's should be revolutionary by then... not commenting on that now, but something awesome is once again coming up :)
     
  31. Karamazovmm

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    you guys want some benchies?

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770 Processor,Apple Inc. Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4 score: P6883 3DMarks

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770 Processor,Apple Inc. Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4 score: P6333 3DMarks

    AMD Radeon HD 6970M / 6990M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2600 Processor,Apple Inc. Mac-942B59F58194171B score: P3287 3DMarks

    those are not mine btw, if they were I would have oc'ed the thing

    I think the result is good a stock 680m should give around 6200 on the gpu score
     
  32. Eldaren

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    Considering the outdated drivers, this looks promising. I would guess it should hit at least 7k stock with better drivers seeing how my 680m hits 6400 stock.
     
  33. kolias

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    300 more points for that??Come on....
    and remember that has i-7 3770 desktop cpu,it helps a lot!!!
     
  34. Eldaren

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    Hey I said at least. 7-8k range I would say.
     
  35. Cloudfire

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    The second one is what I get with my 680M. Why the same with 680MX?
     
  36. Karamazovmm

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    the 2nd one was done with the bootcamp drivers. The 1st one is with newer drivers, 306 something something

    this user also has a 27'' imac 2011 with a 6970m, which is the 3rd benchie.

    Will see if I can get more numbers, we are annoying so much those 2 users
     
  37. Karamazovmm

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    so I have more results here, thanks to the owners

     
  38. Red Line

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    are there any temps measurements for that thing?
     
  39. mattcheau

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    thanks for them "benchies." i dig that word. apple folk are funny (not you).

    Sent from my PI39100 using Board Express
     
  40. J.Dre

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    Not impressed. We are seeing nearly 9k with a single 680m.
     
  41. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    really, they havent even oced anything yet.

    have posted for them how to oc those cards, lets see if they will overvolt as well. but for that they need a vbios
     
  42. ryzeki

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    I expect similar limits to both 680m and 680mx. They are quite close to each other in the end.

    I use my 680m OCd already, so I am over 7.2k 3dmark11 on my regular gaming clocks.
     
  43. Karamazovmm

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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3770 Processor,Apple Inc. Mac-FC02E91DDD3FA6A4 score: P25501 3DMarks

     
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    here are some numbers
     
  45. Karamazovmm

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    more gaming figures
     
  46. HTWingNut

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    I appreciate their time in benchmarking, but it would be nice to see 1080p gaming results so we can have a true comparison. Great that it runs at 2560x1440, but would a few runs at 1080p hurt?
     
  47. jaug1337

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    Exactly. Running on their native resolutions makes it impossible to compare it to our native resolution lol. Damn macs :p
     
  48. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    I have asked already, there is no point in doing benchies (synth) if you are not comparing to anything, its just for the ''hey Im useful to you guys, pat me in the back''
     
  49. HTWingNut

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    Plus most of those look like gameplay FPS, which is fine, but not repeatable, and no indication of what part of the game. I hate to criticize, but give me a damn iMac for a week and I'll do it right! :p
     
  50. Karamazovmm

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    yep I agree with your points, still the performance is good enough, I have been nagging about OCs and stuff to them, I think that they wont go that way, there are 2 types of mac users, the ones that know a lot, and I mean a lot, and the ones that just think its shinny. Im in the latter group, barefeats is in the former, there is still hope for the darkside
     
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