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    Nvidia Quadro K3100M/K4100M/K5100M overclocking vBIOS mod

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by valuxin, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. Heatshiver

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    Nothing for the K5000M? :(
     
  2. valuxin

    valuxin Notebook Evangelist

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    I can do mod for K5000M, but I need a person who help me to test my mods because I don't own K5000M.
     
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    I should be able to do it sometime soon. It sounds fun!
     
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    So i was looking through the VBios files and there is only Dell and MSI, i have a K4100M HP, so I can help and test with HP Quadro K4100M, like before, to run with 800mhz (GPU Core), and 1250Mhz (Memory), i Could also test up some more speeds, but my limit is to avoid my ZBook to heat up/Burn, so how do i get my vbios or something so you can modify so i can get it to test it?
     
  5. valuxin

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    First, I need you to dump your vBIOS. To do this you just need to use GPU-Z (open the program, click on arrow near the EFI check box). We need this dump to be sure that everything will be ok.
     
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    This 1kb file is not what I need... I guess, you have switchable graphics enabled, right? If so, before dumping the vBIOS run any program that requires nvidia gpu.
     
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    I Ran Cinema 4D since it use nvidia GPU, maybe if i deactivate "Hybrid Mode" in BIOS i can use nVidia GPU Only.

    PS: Did so, And run Any game that is 3D (Fore example "Minecraft" which my little sibling uses)
    And saved the VBios and stil 1kb. weird
     
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    Have made various mods using fresh HP vBIOS firmware. Check the HP folder.
     
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    The Link is the actual vbios that i got from nvflash, since GPU-Z was giving me that 1kb rom, and what "HP" Folder?
     
  12. valuxin

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    HP folder on my onedrive with all vBIOS mods. I've used my own vBIOS rom, that should work better than your old one. I don't know much about cooling performance in current Zbooks, but one thing I know - one-fan cooling solution not so good for high performance card (had Elitebook 8760W with Quadro 5010m - it was pretty hot). Thats why the lowest clocks rom I've made is [email protected]|2500Mhz. If it would be too hot for your laptop, just underclock them with Nvidia Inspector and find the value you need.
     
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    NVM, I Reflashed the vBios with original, then with Yours, and it worked, Thanks dude! you are the best, i thought i couldnt made it! :D :D :D

    PS: So I used Nvidia Inspector, but it isn't adding more than 135mhz for "Overclock", is any way to
    Unlock the vbios? i used the 1005mhz (100w) one, since it wasn't heating up with 954, But with nvidia Inspector i cant go further than 841mhz,
     
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  14. valuxin

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    It's all about registry in windows. The vBIOS currently unlocked. Just make sure you don't have any overclocking program other than Nvidia Inspector (if you have, remove them and clean the registry with CCleaner tool and reboot).

    [​IMG]
     
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    I Just found out that i got an outdated Graphic driver, ill try Updating it and ill see...
     
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    It's not the deal, but you can try.
     
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    Still not going further than 135mhz, tried using P5, Tried forcing it to P5 with 1005mhz GPU Core and 1250mhz Memory clock, nothing: [​IMG]
    NOTE: I was Running the Little Render from GPU-Z, but i didn't placed in the screenshot
     
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    You're usin your stock vBIOS, not mine. Shure you can't pass the 135Mhz.
     
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    Well, i just flashed it twice, first try, used nvflash (with .bat) and rom placed on that folder, Nothing, tried again by re-downloading rom from Onedrive and also nothing, the clock changes in GPU-Z but it doesn't change in nVidia Inspector... any solution? or what am i doing wrong?
     
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    As I said, it's everything about software. Try to do the following:
    • Download Display Driver Uninstaller and uninstall Nvidia driver without reboot.
    • Turn off your network to prevent from downloading the drivers.
    • Remove any GPU overclocking software other than Nvidia Inspector.
    • Use CCleaner to clean the registry.
    • Reboot your PC and then install fresh Nvidia Driver.
    • Turn on your network.
    OR
    • Create VHD file via Windows Disk Manager, connect it, format it and assign letter. OR just create new partition on your hard drive.
    • Install Win 7 Ultimate / Win 8 Pro / Win 10 Pro using DISM imagex tool (you can download it here) in CMD with Administrator privileges
      Code:
      C:\DISM\imagex /apply "F:\sources\install.wim" 1 W:\
      
      "W:\" - VHD assigned letter, "F:\" - letter for optical or virtual drive with Windows Installation files, "1" - is the n
    • After installation run the following code under CMD with Administrator privileges
      Code:
       bcdboot W:\Windows
      
    • Reboot your PC to fresh installed Windows
    • Run the following code under CMD with Administrator privileges
      Code:
       bcdboot D:\Windows
      
      Where "D:\" is the letter for your main OS drive
    • Install all required drivers and test the vBIOS. It's should work as promised.
    • After testing you could remove the VHD file from the drive and everything will be ok.
     
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    Just tried both, Not working, i noticed in GPU-Z that the vBios version is: 80.04.E8.00.31, and in Nvidia Inspector: 80.04.B1.00.04, so, something here is messed up?
     
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    Yeah, that's strange... 80.04.B1.00.04 even not close to what you have uploaded... Could you try to turn off switchable graphics and flash the card one more time but under the DOS?
     
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    I was thinking the same thing, done it already and still the same
    EDIT: I was thinking on doing it on DOS, I'll try it.
     
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    Just flashed it with DOS, using nvflash for DOS, and still the getting diferent vbios version from GPU-Z and nVidia inspector,
     
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    Just flashed it with DOS, using nvflash for DOS, and still the getting diferent vbios version from GPU-Z and nVidia inspector,

    EDIT:
    Haha it just Double posted the same thing, lol
     
  26. valuxin

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    Share the screenshot with both GPU-Z and Nvidia Inspector. I'll investigate.
     
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    Does the GPU clock under load is 1006 if you don't use Nvidia Inspector? And what is the BIOS version on your lap? I couldn't find any 80.04.B1.00.04 in the latest sBIOS. I guess, somehow, HP use built in sBIOS video rom instead of using vBIOS from card eeprom...
     
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    Try to flash your original vBIOS and see what's going on in Nvidia Inspector. If the version would not change, try to flash this one I grabbed from latest sBIOS.
     

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    No, without nvidia inspector, GPU Clock doesn't goes further than 705 mhz and also Memory clock stays at 800mhz, Bios Version: 1.35, and in nvflash there was an option to remove protection for eeprom i used that to see what happends, and still didn't work, ill investigate also if there is a "specefic" way for HP Laptops to overclock
     
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    So the version at GPU-Z shows 80.04.E8.00.22 but in Nvidia Inspector shows 80.04.B1.00.04
     
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    It's really strange... 1.35 sBIOS doesn't have at all 80.04.B1.00.04 (seems like the old one from 2013). I've just do unlock mod for original vBIOSes - try them.
     

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    I just noticed that My card is 103C-190A and your vBios is 103C-197A, does that gives problems? but anyways, i used flashed both vBios, and still the same versions and clocks :(

    PS: and also i had a BIOS problem back on 2015, which i had to go with a Manufacture bios, and at the end of 2015 i updated it to 1.35, but it failed and somehow the bios bricked so i reseted the CMOS and it worked again, so in the bios it says 1.35, but maybe is the old manefacture bios? i think the Manufacture version was 93.1 or something,
     
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    Did you use the files I've attached in my last post? I've unlocked +135Mhz only - in other way they are untouched. 190A and 197A are subsystems (laptop model) - it's not the problem just for sure.
     
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    Haha Spelling mistake, i used (flashed) both vbios, and still the same 135mhz lock
     
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    Can be. Also, I can suggest you to try flashing one for Dell under DOS and switchable graphics on (otherwise only HDMI will work). If it wouldn't solve the problem - try to flash you mb once again. But before you do this, I need your sBIOS dump. To do this dump download FTK from there. Then, run biosbck.bat as admin. Share this backup with me to make analysis.
     
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    Here it is: Link ;D
    So i had just flashed the GPU with dell vbios, going to restart Laptop to see if it works

    Also in the BIOS it says that My laptop is a Elitebook 8780w, because thats what HP "was" going to name ZBook, before ZBook :L
     
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    So I restarted my Laptop, in GPU-Z it shows now the vBios version from Dell vBios (80.04.E8.00.1D) but in nvidia shows The same one as before (80.04.B1.00.04)
     
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    Just looked through the sBIOS and you're right - it's not the latest one (93.01 from what I see inside the bios). And as expected, it contains our 80.04.B1.00.04... Ok, what I suggest you to do next. Firstly, try to flash rom I attached (I've made only 135Mhz+ unlock) and try it with Nvidia inspector. Secondly, open spiinfo.bat as admin from FTK and share the screen with me. If you'll see, that you have read access to all regions - run the backup.bat from FTK (that just to be sure you'll have full BIOS dump to use it in emergency cases). After this, try to upgrade your sBIOS to 1.35.
     

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    Flashed GPU, opened Nvidia Inspector, showing the same vbios version and no "modified vbios", still 135mhz lock, also here is the Screenshot, but also when i was doing backup(.bat) it showed this error:

    Little Note: so i saw no Write permission on Desc, so i thought it might be the "thing" that's been giving us problems, so then i ran backup.bat and the error showed up (Screenshot 2)
    INFO.PNG aad.PNG
     
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    You can't do a full backup because you have no read access to ME region. I'll investigate more into the BIOS to extract IFR table to unlock all possible regions and then do a proper backup. Concerning vBIOS - seems like HP in this 93.01 only built-in-sBIOS firmware used. Don't know about 1.35 but worth a try.
     
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    so i need ME permissions? i saw when pressing esc while the laptop turns on and shows the HP logo, i saw Intel ME Setup, so i entered in and there was a login, which i entered and asked a password, which i don't have and don't know, i didn't even put a password on that, so that is related or something?

    EDIT: maybe the password is admin, remember that i said that i did a CMOS Reset? i searched a bit and it said if i did so, intel ME password resets. so ill restart my laptop and see if it works
     
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    It's not about accessing ME functionality during post-screen it's about unlocking ME region on SPI flash itself. Just wait - I'm close to unlock it.
     
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    oh ok, take your time,
     
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    Hm... HP uses quite complex and nonstandard Insyde BIOS, so it's hardly possible for me (coz I'm more close to AMI Aptio, than Insyde)... Untill you'll upgrade it to 1.35 there is probably nothing I can do... But 1.35 can use vBIOS the same way - only built-in. If then, there is only three ways to get your own vBIOS to work:
    1. Modify HP BIOS (not an easy task with it's SEC core inside firmware, but it's possible)
    2. Modify video board Dev ID (hw mod)
    3. Use previous or next gen quadro or any other videocard
    P.S. It's possible to unlock all regions on SPI flash, but i'll require getting inside the laptop (nothing dangerous and very simple).
     
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    ok, ill do it tomorrow, im going to sleep, 3;25AM Here, so see ya
     
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    any stables on k5100m?
     
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    Didn't have an opportunity to make one. If you want, I can try to make vBIOS mod as stable as I can.
     
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    Guys just a quick question, what's your K**0M temperature when your max fan profile kicks in? Or generally what's your cards temperature under full load?
     
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    Dell M6800 K3100M 1124Mhz - 76C
    Dell M6800 K3100M 1163Mhz - 80C
    Dell M6800 K4100M 1006Mhz - 71C
    Dell M6800 K4100M 1085Mhz - 77C
    Dell M6800 K4100M 1124Mhz - 82C
     
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