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    Nvidia clockblock: vBIOS (unblocked in 353.00)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by octiceps, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. Cakefish

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    It doesn't make any sense to me why NVIDIA would plan to block overclocks, both in drivers and BIOS, publicly confirm this on their forums only to plan to do a complete 180 only a week later. What kind of business strategy is that? This whole saga has only served to damage NVIDIA's public perception even further after the 970 scandal.

    What other motives besides us enthusiasts causing an uproar could they possibly have had for doing the complete 180?

    That sounds a bit farfetched to me. I'm very cynical of this being some sort of super high-level conspiracy.

    I'm with Robbo on this one. I can't fathom how NVIDIA would intentionally hurt their public image, embarrass themselves and generate so much negative press. And for what? They've gained nothing out of this. Absolutely nothing.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
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  2. Meaker@Sager

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    @jaybee83

    Prema has helped with the vbios which he has now released. Any hardware mods are of my own work.
     
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  3. Zymphad

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    Where are these fabled drivers?!?!?!?
     
  4. jaybee83

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    march 16th rumoured for release date ;)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  5. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    When Titan X and Battlefield Hardline come out
     
  6. thegreatsquare

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    My main theory at the moment is that the desktop 970 lawsuit aided their change of heart. Nvidia didn't need tangential issues hurting their case or worse, being added to that case. I'm sure Nvidia would like to avoid establishing a pattern of consumer deception with that lawsuit on the horizon.
     
  7. Garry7263

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    I am not an avid overclocker, but what they are doing is wrong. People specifically buy some notebooks just for the ability to mod it and overclock it. They have ALREADY bought a system, and now nVIDIA wants to take away one of the original selling points? That is like GM coming to your house and putting a governor on the motor of your new corvette, so you can drive no faster than 55. Unreal and actually unlawful.

    If they want to lose business and block it on future video cards, so be it, at least you are forewarned that you will not be able to overclock it. People that love overclocking will go elsewhere, and they will lose business. They are like the current government that thinks they know what you need better than you.

    They could put a trigger in the future chips that records overclocking events that void the warranty with a warning that you lose your warranty if you overclock past a certain limit. At the very least, you have to tell people what option and abilities you are getting BEFORE you buy, not take away features AFTER you buy.
     
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  8. Ethrem

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    That or they can just neuter the power delivery by cutting back on VRMs like they did on the 980M on the extreme side.

    We should be thankful for the 970 fiasco. I highly doubt nVidia would have decided to reverse course if that issue on desktops hadn't come to light.
     
  9. Ashtrix

    Ashtrix ψυχή υπεροχή

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  10. Zymphad

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    Too bad Guru3D doesn't have drivers early release/leaks anymore for NVidia.
     
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    karasahin Notebook Consultant

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  12. Cakefish

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    The drivers won't be released until the Titan X officially launches - NVIDIA operate via one of the NA timezones so that's why we won't see it for a few more hours in the rest of the world. I expect it'll be released around 7-10pm GMT.
     
  13. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    The new 347.88 Titan X/BF:H Game Ready driver just came out. Apparently it's available on GFE but not online yet, so can someone with GFE install and report whether the driver clockblock has been removed?

    Edit: nvm right when I post this it decides to work LOL
     
  14. Phase

    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    i just downloaded it, but they didnt put release highlights.... odd
     
  15. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    [​IMG]
     
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  16. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Is the core slider in Inspector still grayed out?

    Edit: never mind I'm a dumbass :oops:
     
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  17. Ethrem

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    Seems more stable... I got my core up to 1244 on stock voltage stable... It was 1222 before and it would crash immediately at +5 after that. Too bad my GPUs hit the 80s in 3DMark11 with max fans at that core or I'd push it more. I wish I knew flashing svl7s vbios would be 100% okay on a Clevo machine... Don't think I could recover from a soft brick now. Although I checked the heat coming out of the back of the machine under load... It seems quite cool so maybe today I'll open up the machine and repaste... With 80s, the air should be a lot hotter than it is...
     
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  18. Cakefish

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    More stable? That's interesting.

    I'll have to do some testing.

    Who knows maybe VRAM stability will improve (here's hoping!).
     
  19. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Well I'm at 1264 core on stock voltage right now and it hasn't crashed yet... 1222 was my highest with 344.75.
     
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    Mr. Fox uses svl7's vBIOS on his P570WM, so I'm certain it's safe. And yes, your temps are too damn hot Ethrem we keep telling yew
     
  21. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    1306 core on stock voltage and still testing. Maybe I just need CLU... At least for the master. There is no doubt the master is better than the slave now...
     
  22. D2 Ultima

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    I used CLU. Does not make a whole lot of difference for these cards likely due to thermal density. I'd say gelid would be fine, and as far as I know you already have gelid.

    But feel free to liquid that baby up.
     
  23. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    I have Gelid and ShinEtsu 7921 as well as left over IC Diamond.
     
  24. D2 Ultima

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    Well try Gelid or ICD.

    If you wanna get rid of ICD, simply soak it in Arcticlean or alcohol for about 3 minutes then wipe off. If not all comes off, don't fight it. Simply soak the rest, then wipe off again. It will not leave any scratches. I left a post in the P750ZM thread of my post-ICD GPU die with so much of a mirror finish that you couldn't even see the die because it was reflecting my roof too much. That was before using Arcticlean's primer as well.
     
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    Did anyone get a locked vBIOS card? Which one?
     
  26. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    It doesn't matter, the new drivers appear to ignore the overclocking disable bit.

    I saw that post. I happen to have arcticlean. I wonder what the stock paste they used is... it *SHOULD* be ICD since I paid for that with the system originally but who knows with Sager... but I am still not ready to pop the machine open yet.
     
  27. Craig9080

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    Now that that is all behind us I'm just glad that I have been able to add overclock blocked to my vocabulary. Now to make my 860m a 960m
     
  28. octiceps

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    You can do better than that ;)
     
  29. Craig9080

    Craig9080 Notebook Consultant

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    Oh my, yes I can! Just did a round of benchmarking last night and their is quite a bit of improvement to be had in this little chip.
     
  30. dragonwolf8504

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    So I take it 347.88 drivers allow overclocking? I've been really busy so haven't been up to snuff on everything lately. In fact I'm still running 344.75.
     
  31. Ethrem

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    Yes the 347.88 drivers allow overclocking even on systems that shipped with a locked vbios. They've been pretty stable for me too.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification, just wanted to make sure before I updated specially considering how far behind I am.
     
  33. ycon

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    Hi,

    Just so I'm super clear...

    My driver version is 345.20 (bios 84.04.1F.00.BD).

    If I upgrade my video card drivers- I'll still be able to overclock it??
     
  34. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Yes, overclocking is enabled in 347.88
     
  35. Eldaren513

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    It seems like 350.12 (GTA5 game ready driver) disables core overclocking. It has been on my Alienware anyway. Anyone else notice this?
     
  36. Ethrem

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    No issue on my Clevo with Prema's vbios. Just installed it to check.

    Are you on a stock vbios that had overclocking disabled? I wonder if nVidia left out the ignore for that bit in the vbios.
     
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    Eeek... Can someone else please confirm this? I don't want to risk it myself)
     
  38. Robbo99999

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    What, you're not gonna risk raising your core by say just 20Mhz to test if 350.12 overclocks?! That's a strange stance to take, you're not going to damage your GPU by raising the core clock +135Mhz, let alone say just +20Mhz to test.
     
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  39. Ethrem

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    I think he more meant that he doesn't want to have a driver fight if it doesn't work. I'll admit that I updated through GF Experience so I could do it fast and when I rebooted, the computer froze right off the bat. I rebooted a second time and it seemed to do it again but I let it sit for 30 seconds and it picked up and finished loading. Changing drivers is a real hassle for people who customize their nVidia application settings extensively and have to do a clean install (like I'm going to have to do now)
     
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    Interesting.. I updated through GE (on desktop), got a hanging black screen after they installed. Waited 5 mins to see if the screen would come back, it didn't , did a restart and things were fine.
     
  41. Ethrem

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    This is why I don't change drivers much. I only did it after it was posted here that overclocking may be blocked again. I wouldn't have bothered until the performance and stability reports rolled in if this thread wasn't bumped.
     
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    Have you guys got an overclock block on 350.12 like that one previous poster? EDIT: just read that you Ethrem aren't blocked with this driver, how about you TBoneSan?
     
  43. ycon

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    Exactly what I meant. I don't want to risk removing overclocking ability for some special "GTA V" ready graphics (although GTA V is the reason I bought this laptop).

    My driver version is 345.20 (bios 84.04.1F.00.BD).

    If anyone can confirm whether or not upgrading will still allow me to overclock- please let me know.
     
  44. TBoneSan

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    I don't have any 980m's to try with anymore bud
     
  45. Robbo99999

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    Ah right, how come you got rid of them? What are you gonna wack in there?
     
  46. TBoneSan

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    I went and built a desktop. Got my machine selling without GPU's in the market place. We'll see.. It's priced Dam cheap so if it doesn't sell this week I'll be happy to keep it and wack some other cards in.
     
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    What did you do with your 980Ms?
     
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    I can overclock my memory but not my core with this new driver. Really frustrating.
     
  49. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Sold them
     
  50. Robbo99999

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    Reports from other people welcome to get further substantiation that 350.12 really has brought back the dreaded clock blocking. (From users with unmodified vBIOS)
     
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