*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

Check one notebooks and ceg extreme and there is a seller from Finland in this forum called tansmeister

 

Lol Volta won't matter when your dead

Anyway what are the chances of a 1060 Ti?


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Close to 0.
I think they will only attempt a 1050 Ti on lower end laptop refreshes.

 

Disappointing. I just assumed on Trend from desktop that there would be one. Plus I do think the gap is way to far from 1060-1070, much further than the desktop 960-970 and 960m-970m of 3000 points (fire strike gpu)
Vs currently 6000 points between the 1060&1070.
I just thought a 1060 Ti would close the difference a bit plus It can make sense because of the rumours of pushing Volta forward, rather than making a refresh for the 11 series. Just get them all out now.
But that's me wishfully thinking out loud hoping another 14" alternative. Quite disappointed that the mobile 1060 was not on par with the desktop version. It's just a little bit past a 980m. It's good...but not that good. Why is it that of all 3 cards. That's the furtherest away from its desktop version


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Now that Pascal laptops are out. The prices are out here in Canada. 2599 for a MSI 1070 laptop. That's like 1200 dollars more for the only worthwhile upgrade....I'm waiting for Volta and my 965m will have to do until then. Unless there are cheaper 1070 laptops

 

Clevo and ASUS come to mind. Everyone knows about the MSI tax...

 

Clevo has shafted 14" options. The other 14-inchers on the market (besides the GS43VR, which is pricey as hell here) are likely to throttle like hell, and expensive too.

Why couldn't they re-do the motherboard like they did the P870DM, if the 1060 was 'electrically incompatible', as quoted by @Prema?

Sigh. Small notebooks and their users always draw the short straw. Have any of you already purchased new Pascal notebooks yet? Hopefully someone with a GS43?

 

Did you ever think that maybe Clevo skipped the 14 inch in order to NOT shaft their customers? That maybe they decided the 1060 was too hot for a 14 inch and are waiting for new chips and are planning to launch in October?

 

Meaning they are planning to use lower-performance chips? Which, technically, is shafting us nevertheless.

 

It's not shafting if they don't run right at the edge of thermal limits...

 

I'm not in your *us*.

1060 is hot. They might have to lower the TDP to put it in the 14" laptop.

 

I'm sorry, @Ethrem. I'm just really, really disappointed that the 1060 isn't in a 14" refresh. I think it could've happened, but it didn't. I can't do much about that but wait... two years, as I see it.

I don't remember saying you were.

In fact literally everyone else (except possibly @Prototime) around here wants the top-end machines. I cannot afford that kind of performance or size, nor do I want to lug around 5 kg of metal, plastic and silicon.

 

Count me in. It's not that we don't get a 1060, it's the possibility of having an overhauled maxwell instead of a desktop pascal in some possible future 1050n which sucks hard.

If it's a desktop pascal 1050/1050ti and it performs nicely, then I'll be happy, which I really doubt will happen

 

Well-said. If the 1050 (or Ti) turns out to be a Maxwell, I'm not sure how I'd react. Knowing nVidia, this is entirely possible. They'd just be overcharging for a 2-year-old chip and I may as well get a notebook with a 970M and OC the hell out of it.

 

Then go with a thin 1060. ASUS GL502VM is about 2.2 KG with 1060. Not good enough?

 

The screen size matters. A lot. And Asus notebooks where I live are very, very expensive. Literally every other brand besides Clevo where I live is expensive. I can shell out up to $1500 for a generic Inspiron with a 960M in it for heaven's sake.

 

Then Aours X3. 13.9" with 1060, less than 4 lbs. The upcoming Razer Blade 14 should work too.

http://www.xoticpc.com/aorus-x3-plus-v6-pc3k4d.html

 

The thing is, some people (including me) will be extremely satisfied with a GPU surpassing the 980M and only costing up to 1300$. It really exceeded my expectations because I was about to purchase a 965M laptop for 1100 Euros. I don't mind having a GPU, while actually good enough, is still by a margin behind its successor.

 

There are more Pascal SKUs in the works. That's all I'm going to say.

 

I'm also waiting for a GS43VR review as I haven't yet found one in the internet including benchmarks and thermals. I might clinch one few months later if the thermals happen to be satisfactory.

 

You say you you will get a 970m. Oc thoi. Didn't clevo release a 14in 970m laptop 2 years ago. If they did. Why would you wait till Pascal to buy one

 

Clevo P640RE, likely to be the P640RP when refreshed with Pascal (to match the P650RP).

 

XOTIC put up the the new Sager gtx 1000 series laptops up on Amazon

 

I checked One.de didn't find a non SLI P870DM, they are usually the second least expensive reseller in Europe, sadly you get no option to change Keyboard layout, as for CEG they have one, but with a 4K screen with no option for 1080p, noticed Tanzmeister had some really good deals, is he already selling 10XX series Clevo's? I checked and didn't see any .

 

I don't blame you. Newegg just lost my business as well, thanks to botching my shipping up. But man, for a single 1080 is 3k? That's.....wow.

 

No, they didn't release it 2 years ago. In fact, they only released it late last year. Two years ago the only option was my notebook, the W230SS.

Re-read my original post, please... I know the Aorus, MSI and Razer options exist. I'm not interested in them. Why? They're all way more expensive than Clevo's stuff. They throttle. And opening up one of them would probably void the warranty.

 

Yep, I'm in the same boat as you, @SRSR333. I want a portable gaming laptop, not a miniature desktop with a built-in screen and keyboard. Which is not a knock on anyone who wants a DTR! It's just my own preference. I understand this means I'm stuck with lower-performing graphics cards and BGA, but those are sacrifices I'm willing to make... to a point, at least. MXM laptops with 1080s are crazy expensive anyway.

Maybe we should start a "small and light gaming notebook" club here on NBR... lord knows the DTR crowd has their own

Yes. If Clevo just comes out with a 14" 1050ti Maxwell recycle, which seems likely at this point, I'm going to be pretty disappointed. I was hoping that if anyone could make a 14" laptop with a 1060 that would cool properly, it'd be Clevo.

Seriously? Because I wasn't looking for a gaming laptop years ago, and when I started considering my options a few months back, literally every single person on this forum said "DON'T BUY NOW, WAIT UNITL PASCAL." I'm sorry, but no one here now gets to say "you should have bought a Maxwell." And honestly, I'm still glad that I waited, because Pascal cards are better performing and I'd prefer to buy Pascal over Maxwell even if my 14" options might be fewer.

You guys should check out the GS43VR thread in the MSI forum, someone there has bought one and all of us in the thread are excitedly awaiting their review: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gs43.793376/

 

Count me in! It's been a bit of a pain, I was hoping to go under/around 4lbs, which leaves me with:

- MSI GS43VR
+ Very light, small profile, very reasonably priced
- Screen is thoroughly mediocre (no GSYNC, no high refresh, no OLED)
? Throttling, thermals and acoustics unknown

- AORUS X3 V6
+ Very good thermals and acoustics and no throttling (hypothesis based on last gen), I think the design is cool
- Starting price is very high. Lowest config has 512GB SSD, wish there was a 256GB for a couple hundred less. High res screen is overkill in 13.9" and had very poor response times in the last iteration

- MSI GS63VR
+ Amazing to have a 15.6" with 1060 under 4lbs, really thin (thinner than GS43VR)
- Some initial data shows there is throttling, screen is meh

- (pending) Razer Blade
? Hard to speculate. Thermals are a worry, price is probably gonna be high.

Then there's virtually nothing in the 4.X lbs weight range. At 5.5lbs the ASUS GL502VM comes into play as well, but then I'm only 0.2lbs away from a 1070, which is vastly superior.

There seem to be just enough downsides in each to make the decision damn near impossible. If MSI had at least used a GSYNC 60hz screen on the GS63VR, I think I'd have already bought it...

 

That's a pretty good overview! My own analysis of the situation has been similar too. I'd prefer 14" but, if necessary, I am willing to go for a relatively light 15.6" for a significant bump in performance/better heating. Now, If only those 15.6" Clevos were lighter... :/

Also, I've read that the GL502VM is actually 4.4 lbs or 4.9 lbs depending on the version, at least according to XoticPC: http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gamin...che=true&order=price&p=clear&graphicscard=162 (GenTech also lists it as 4.93 lbs). But I haven't read up too much the GL502VM yet, so perhaps there's also a 5.5 lbs version that I just haven't come across.

 

For thoose who planning to buy MSI GS63VR i found this he shows some temp and stuff.

 

Yeah, same thoughts on the Clevos.

For the GL502VM, I think this is all a result of bad conversions and that is topped off with ASUS's shady marketing. I believe the 4.4 vs 4.9 comes simply from conversion: it is 2.2kg, 4.4 is exactly 2x which is what a very lazy conversion would yield. A precise conversion of kg to lbs lands you at 4.9. However, 2.2kg is what ASUS claimed for the VT, and when notebookcheck reviewed it they found it was actually 2.5kg / 5.5 lbs. So until notebookcheck or someone else weighs the VM, I'm assuming it is going to be ~5.5 lbs

 

Wow, thanks for making sense of that mess! If the ASUS is just as heavy as the Clevo P650RP6 at 5.5 lbs, then I'd probably just go for the Clevo (and possible get slightly heavier RS-G for that 1070 performance) . But hopefully one of these 4.X lbs laptops will end up being good enough to buy.

 

One.de has a 15inch Clevo (can't say which model, not a clevo expert) with 1060 starting at 1200 EUR. That has to be the best price in Europe yet right? 1070 version is below 1600 EUR which is also quite amazing looking at e.g. XMG/Schenker where you can't get one below 2000 EUR.

http://www.one.de/shop/product_info...#tabs&osCsid=50dc57d735e2111829d7bb6bdb849a83

 

Eh? Who put up this rumor that a mobile 1050 could be Maxwell refresh? I highly doubt this is gonna happen. Calling BS on this rumor, otherwise I want to see the article or have explained the "source" of this information.

 

I can confirm that neither one.de, ceg extreme or xmg offer a single 1080 in a P870DM3/2. Ceg actually does but only with a 4K screen and other shizzle that the price minimum is at 3,200€ which is ridiculous. Their P775DM3 is tempting though all models lack a 120hz screen option.

 

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It's clevo P650RP6 , and yes it's the best price i have seen in Europe but what about the screen?

 

You should compare those prices with PCspecialist aswell, One.de and them are usually the 2 two cheapest resellers in Europe .

 

I want to also know how the screen and cooling is in this tiny chassi

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I totally get where your coming from. It IS. Good. No doubt. But with all this hype and performance I expected a little bit more considering they are desktop versions.
Although I own a 960m. I used to own a 970m...twice. So wanted a bit more power upgrade than 50% faster. It the 1060 mobile match the desktop. It would be about 70% than a 970m. That would please me greatly.

Etheren said there will be more pascal skus. That great. Although. I'm at least waiting till clevo has the 14" version before making up my mind. The msi gs43 would cost me £1500 so I need to be sure on the machine for costs like that plus I want to spend around £1200 on the clevo.
For there was a 1070 14" I'd pay more because it's 50% better.
I'd prob not upgrade to Volta if the laptop was that good. Of course unless Volta is THAT good!


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I've read it on this quite same forum, let me look for it and I will quote him

 

Yes, I have read someone mentioning something... actually this is the post:

So now that I quoted him, I expect an elaborate answer where this comes from. Because if we are just speculating then I'll throw in the next rumor, which is: it will either be a GP107 or GP106 with 768-1024 cores. Both of them more likely than a 3rd Maxwell refresh. Another Maxwell refresh is only possible for Low-End GPUs, maybe up to 1040, but not the 1050.

 

NotebookCheck just updated their Pascal test, now with 30 games: GTX 1060 is +65% faster and GTX 1070 is +120% faster than GTX 970M (desktop versions are +91% and +139%):



http://www.notebookcheck.com/Nvidia...-im-grossen-Benchmark-Vergleich.171219.0.html

 

Wish they would also test at 1440p.

 

Is there going to be cheaper variants of g800vi from Asus? I mean like with less amount of op ram with 16GB instead of 64GB. And with i7 6700 instead of 6820. Anyway it is overpriced.

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You wouldn't want a 6700HQ, can't OC it - and yes OC'ing the 6820HK is *necessary* to get full performance - easy setting core multiplier to 40 on all 4 cores.

You could try getting it from a boutique dealer that offers customization, and drop the memory / storage down - but you'll only save a fraction of it's value.

It's a solid machine, 18" screen, worth it

 

Have you guys heard anything about Acer Predator with Pascal? Acer seems quite quiet.

 

I need something like Asus g752vy only with gtx1080. I can't believe that screen and slightly stronger cpu can make such big difference.

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It's the unlocked part, the power delay can be changed from 8 or 28 seconds, to unlimited - say 100 or 1000 seconds, that way the CPU will stay in turbo boost longer - otherwise it drops to base 2.6ghz after 8/28 second delay, and that's a noticeable difference.

With the more powerful GPU the CPU gets taxed with processing more FPS, the higher the FPS the more CPU power needed. That's why CPU usage goes down when moving to 1440p and 4k - fewer FPS. Simply put.

The larger screen is nice after you get used to it, it's a step down to 17". The 18" screen blocks side views on the left and right of the screen a little more, entering the peripheral vision of the eyes - it's noticeably more focused viewing it vs smaller screens. Would 19" or 20" be better? Clevo thought so with the 21" laptop

It's a new experience, you might like it

 

I like big screens. I used to be desktop gamer on 24" Dell screen. But 4500$ is overpriced no matter what.

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I've received my asus g502vs (seems to be the same as the gL502vs, i bought mine in france), if i remember correctly some of you asked for its weight, well it's 2,6kg (instead of the ~2.2kg written on asus website) and its power supply almost weight 600 grams. And it has a 2.5 centimeter thickness. So if some of you have some question about it maybe I can answer it ^^