*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

lol this is awkward, fixed tho

 

That's sad. What's your opinion on Alienwares if they got the 1070 chip? I bought a Alienware 15 with 970m few years back but returned it because the bottom would heat up like a frying pan even under normal load. I'm wondering if they fixed these issues.
I'd probably take the compromise in weight for 1070. But then I think, is it worth the extra money for the 1070 over 1060? I DO want to be able to be ready for VR... though there isn't much content to invest in yet from what I understand.

 

Thanks for fixing the images

 

Why has ASUS priced the gl502 with 1070 for only $1699? Plus 16gb ram, 256SSD. And it's only 4.8lbs. Similar competition are at least 1900-2000+ USD. If only they made it without the tacky glowing gamer emblems! Will we see prices start dropping in the new future for 1070 laptops similar to this one? $1600 for a 1070 equipped laptop is a great deal.. I want exactly this, but a little less profile and "gamer" emblems.

 

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec

If you want a laptop without the neon colors

 

nice, that would be my kinda thing, im a 15inch guy

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Can relate to this. It wasn't till I had an hp 8510p and went to the 8510w before I noticed the noise difference. But thinking back now. As I was learning to get the most out of my machine back in 2007 I think the real cause at the time was the 7200 rpm hard drive I upgraded from the 5400 rpm because it delivered more heat causing the fans to push harder.
Nowadays laptops have multiple slots now.
I'll always use my 2.5" drive as a storage drive with preference of it been 5400 rpm to reduce noise and heat and just use the m.2 ssd as my main drive so there's no real usage on the the 2.5" drive keeping it silent. Rarely ever hear that annoying ticking noise it makes either now.


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I haven't looked at the temps yet because I've been busy and barely had time to use the thing yet- in the process of buying a house and that's pretty brutal, but from what I can say when I've been doing the VR demos, it was more quiet than the P670RE-G that I owned [GTX 970m, 6700HQ] the fans seem to be a better quality- not as noisy, and at full blast there's less volume but more air moving. That said, they do ramp up quicker, but they also settle down quicker on the RS, and I don't have them side to side- working off memory here. I have the 6820HK set to 4GHz Single and 3.8GHz 2-3-4 core, which may be contributing to the fans bursting up quicker.
Once I take some temperatures and repaste, we'll see what we're working with.

 

Hmm, I figured it was just Windows 10. I may try going back to the Clevo driver for a while until Nvidia starts pumping out new(er) drivers.

I am using dedicated GPU directly so I can use G-sync when I'm not testing VR.

 

Thanks for the info. Hope you get a great house. And post temperatures whenever you can.

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love my Qosmio X70-A gaming laptop- any news on availability of mxm1060 cards yet? would swap to 1070 but the 770MXM cooks the fans as is and tdp is REALLY important on haswell mobile platform- cant wait for colder lap and 2x the graphics
on a side note what ever happened to Qosmio?

 

Aww.... I thought I had the fastest P751DM2... Now, were is my GTX1080.

 

If you absolutely don't want / can't have a Clevo then there is a solution. I have no personal experience with XoticPC's stealth wraps but I've read positive comments about them. They may be a bit pricy but probably still within your $2000 total budget. I believe they're worth checking out.

http://www.xoticpc.com/stealth-wraps/

Hope this helps!

 

Oosimo have gone the way of the Dodo bird, extinct

Spoiler: Toshiba Europe old Listing

http://www.toshiba.eu/laptops/product-filter/?sFamily=qosmio&sSeries=qosmio-x70-b

QOSMIO X70-B-112
http://www.toshiba.eu/laptops/qosmio/qosmio-x70-b/qosmio-x70-b-112/

Drivers, including Windows 10 upgrade drivers
http://www.toshiba.eu/support/drivers/

Toshiba today for the US:
http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptop-finder#4294965746 4294965347 4294965608

i7-6600U is the top CPU...and this is their top spec laptop:
http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/tecra/Z50/Z50-034007

Other companies have jumped back into the gaming laptop realm, so maybe Toshiba will too, someday...

Update: Just noticed Toshiba is offering Windows 7 Pro through downgrade rights from Windows 10 Pro - pretty cool

• Windows 7 Professional (available through downgrade rights from Windows 10 Pro)

 

Thanks for the idea ! lol. If I wait 1 month or so, what's the a chance we will see similar 1070 laptops around that 1600-1700 USD price? I'm impressed it's only 4.8lbs. The other 1070 laptops I thought were 6-7lbs. Right now potential similar options could be the gs63vr or gs73, but I'm not familiar with how their cooling is for such thin laptops. Haven't had experience with MSI laptops. But right now my favored brands are Asus, Dell, maybe MSI. More reputable brands.

 

The 1060 has a higher TDP than the 770M....

 

There's a ton of great info in this thread that has covered what you asked, try and give it a skim if you get a few minutes. Broadly, on some of your comments:
1) XPS15 with 1060 is (unfortunately) impossible and not gonna happen (unless there's a massive change in the model)
2) 1060 is VR-ready, at least in theory (I caveat because there seem to be a lot of models that throttle)
3) I can't really say much about Alienware with the 1070 - I'm sure they are coming, but I've never owned one and can't speak to heat. I'm surprised by your comment though, because pretty much all reviews of Alienware I ever read say they have good acoustics (not too loud) and don't run too hot. Considering how big and heavy they are, if they aren't cool and quiet, then I don't know what they are doing! But I think either you had a bum unit or your expectations are too unrealistic, most gaming laptops are in fact, ironically, not suitable for one's lap.
4) The GL502VS is indeed amazing value at $1699. Only Sager/Clevo competes on price, MSI is +$100. The SSD they use is a slow one, etc, so they've saved where they could. However, please note it is not 4.8lbs. It is, in fact, 5.7lbs.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL502VS-Notebook-Review.171567.0.html

Finally, you, like me, and many others here, would love a professional, serious-looking gaming laptop, but for some reason the manufacturers seem to have gone a bit crazy and are all trying to one-up each other with the most aggressive and shouty designs that they can think of. For all I know, maybe we are a minority, and a clean and serious look doesn't sell.

 

Thanks for the reply. Definitely some good info in the previous pages. MSI has the 1070, but it's in a 17" form factor... I like the portability of the 15". But their GS63VR only has a 1060m. Granted I want to be extremely prepared for VR, the only real games I play is Overwatch and League. So most of the investment comes to VR. And the question is, is the 1070 a better investment in a notebook.

Is it worth the wait to see if new models come out in the next month or two from the major brands , or is what we have now going to just be refreshed. I understand gaming laptop isn't made for your lap, but on the other hand if I'm just surfing the web, typing a word document, or YouTube, it shouldn't fry my lap, should it?

 

Edit: Scrap that. Person in question already dismissed the Clevo option.

 

Totally man, if it was frying your lap in casual/office-type usage, then something is definitely up (or it's a really bad design). On the other hand, I last had a Latitude for work, with a low-power dual-core U processor, and there were still parts of it that were too hot and stopped me from putting it on my lap...

MSI has the 1070 in a 15" if you're interested (it's the +$100 one I referred to, GT62VR for $1799 at Xotic). Mind you, it's even heavier than the ASUS. The thin and light MSIs (GS series) only have the 1060, yup... You asked if the 1070 was a better investment, I would say yes in every single way except for the weight factor, better performance/dollar, more future-proof, etc, just heavy.

 

Anyone have any speculation as to what the mobile 1050 will be? Hopefully still Pascal and close to 980m in terms of performance?

 

If you were to pick between the GS63 with 1060 , would you choose the heavier GT for the 1070 alone? The thin form factor is very cool, but it does sacrifice performance.

 

I've been away for a while and most of us know the oven issue I had with my Asus gl502vs. It may have been a faulty unit (still on it's way back to newegg) but the dag on thing was in no way shape or form built cheap. It had a very good build and I can only imagine how the big silver tanks are built. I had the rubber covered Asus G75 and that dag on thing was build deliciously.

 

I think that's a very personal question and there's no right or wrong answer. I will need to carry it every day, so in my case I lean towards the GS63.

 

Razer allows you to turn off the backlight on their logo. As well now that the keyboard is chroma, you can turn the backlight from green to white on the keyboard. Razer is the closest thing to looking professional, though in the video I saw the 1060 demo unit that's coming out soon the fans sounded pretty loud, louder than my 2014. Though that is hard to gauge from a video shot on a crowded show floor, it SOUNDED like the fan was running super high. If it was hot on the show floor and it had been running for 12 hours straight playing overwatch that might be justified.

 

Sections of the keyboard literally get hot enough to badly burn your fingers.

 

How about the MSI models like the gs63 , gs73 or GT63? Has MSI improved their heating problems? I remember a long time ago, MSI had a bad name due to build quality. Now it seems they are THE gaming laptop company.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10329403

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FPS impact from laptop bloatware, ft. Norton & GTX 1060 (MSI GE62VR):

Spoiler: More games

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2...killing-fps-performance-on-1060-laptop-ge62vr

 

Question: Does the panel in the MSI GT62VR with the GTX1060 support G-Sync? Anyone who can confirm?

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT62VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro-Notebook-Review.171215.0.html

They will eventually, not sure if they do everywhere yet.

Edit: yep seems it does: http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt62vr-dominator-027.html

 

Yes.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Li...with-Nvidia-Pascal-GeForce-GPUs.172668.0.html

 

I'm considering a Razer product now. I'm enrolled in college at the young age of 39 and its clear to me my time is now gone so the best I can do is take a gaming break here and there during study sessions. Luckily I can study at work. I will keep a close eye on Razers 1060 offering. I would do a 970m as well tbh, but the prices are not low enough to pick up maxwell over pascal.

I need something low profile for my backpack and I'm often times on my motorcycle so I don't need a tank.

 

Thanks!
The first link you provided is indeed a GT62VR, but it's the 1070 version.
I just wanted to make sure even the laptop coming with the GTX 1060 supports G-Sync.

EDIT: I'm a bit confused about the XoticPC version.
How can the notebook support G-Sync and have Optimus at the same time? In the specifications tab, both G-Sync and Optimus are mentioned in the GPU part.

 

It's done by not wiring the display through the iGPU.

 

Keep reading how 1070 is the way to go, predominately based on "future-proofing". The problem with that thinking is the 800lb gorilla that is 4K. I know, I know; 1080p is fine or even better for laptops. No freaking way. I'm in the market for 10xx after using this Vaio F23 for over 4 years now and and recall when I bought people saying the same thing about 720p. Can't tell you how glad I've been haveing gone 1080p slightly ahead of the curve. The reality with higher resolution is always that it's just a matter of time. If you're only buying for 2 years then I'd say you might get by and be happy with 1080p. If that's the case, a 1060 fits the bill just fine. If you're into "future-proofing", it seems to make little sense doing so in terms of the GPU while ignoring screen technology. In 3 years or so looking at 1080p on even a 15 or 17 will seem like 720p today. It's always been that way, it'll always be that way. I'm undecided on 1060 vs 1070 as of yet, but I can tell you if I go 1070 for longer term relevance it's going to have to be 4K, and those two upgrades represent quite the premium over 1060 and 1080p.

 

If you seriously want a card for 4K, go with the 1080. Yes, it is significantly more expensive than the 1070, but it will make sure you have a good time for four years at 4K.

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I dont agree. Even a Titan X (2016) is not a true 4k screen for the future. We are not there yet. Maybe on Volta, or maybe only on 10/7nms.

On the present I think the best option would be 1440p 120hz. Buy we dont have that yet, so 1080p 120hz is the best choice. On the less demanding games you can oversample.

 

Point taken. However, a 1080 is going to fare a hell of a lot better than a 1070. And if after three of the four years, you have to go down to in terms of details at 4K to get playable frame rates, it's fair enough. Even on a 17.3" screen, even four years from now, it is going to be difficult (read - impossible) to make out individual pixels at 4K.

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I think it's the opposite when it comes to future proofing - if you get a 4K screen the GTX 1080 or 1070 that you have in there will become obsolete sooner because it's trying to drive such a high resolution, but if you have say the GTX 1070 for a 1080p screen then it is more future proof because the GPU will be able to drive that lower resolution screen at satisfactory framerates for a longer period of years. I wouldn't buy a 4K laptop at this point, I'm of the opinion that 1080p is plenty for a laptop, and it also allows your GTX 1070 to be relevant for a greater number of years.

 

There were a lot of people who gamed (maybe still do?) at 720p long after 1080p became the standard. For me, no way. I have a 720p 55" plasma in the living room and don't really miss the 1080p I get on the 42" in the bedroom or on my laptop, primarily due to the 8' or 9' distance. However, I can totally notice the difference between 720p on my wife's 15" in laptop and my 1080p 16.4". I also appreciate the difference between 1080p content and 1440p content on my Galaxy S6. I'll take PerfectStorm's point that GTX 1080 is the way to go for 4K, but my greater point really was that despite how people feel or think they feel about 1080p today, I question how many are really going to be happy with 1080p 3 years from now -definitely not me. For that reason, I think I'd be good spending ~$1600 on a 1060 @ 1080p now, or breaking the bank by going all out on a GTX 1080 @ 4K. $2000-$2200 to be stuck at 1080p for 4 years, no thanks.

 

Right now for $100 cost difference between a 1080P and 4K screen, i'm inclined to get the 4K screen to be able to watch 4K videos/movies and then game at 1080P.

Its nice to have and not need rather to need and not have.

 

If playing at 4k resolution is your stated aim, then going up to a 1070 rather defeats the purpose especially if you want to enjoy 4k gaming for as long as possible. Budget permitting, go for the single 1080 systems since SLI will likely be prohibitively expensive and add maybe 12-18 months maximum on 4k gaming with maximum visual settings.

 

Sounds like you'll have to get the 4K regardless then, that's how you feel about it. It's an expensive and large framerate costing desire though. (Expensive because you need the best GPU to drive it, and also because it won't deliver good 4K framerates to some extent now & definitely not in the very near future so will need to replaced sooner too.)

 

The 1080 laptops seems like such a bad investment, to me. I'd rather buy a ~$2k 1070 machine this year, then sell it to buy a ~$2k "2070" Volta machine.

In the end, you've spent about the same amount as you would on a single 1080 laptop, and you'd end up with a faster GPU and a brand new machine.

 

To each his own, but by the same logic one could buy a 3-4k dual SLI machine this year and sell it the next to buy a similarly equipped next-gen dual SLI machine but with more performance against the 1070 example for the price paid.

For those who can't sell their machines at the drop of a hat, going big on one purchase and hanging on to it until it's ready for another overhaul costs less than either of the "upgrade by next year" models.

 

You example literally has no correlation with mine. Your scenario involves taking a huge loss in investment, on the first machine, while I'm talking about buying two laptops for the price of one, ending up ahead in the final performance.

Your second paragraph actually makes sense though.

 

Fine, but if I'm not going to purchase for the long term (up to ~4 years), there's no reason why a 1060 @ 1080p wouldn't suffice for 18 mos or so.

 

I must be misinterpreting things, because the scenario you proposed involves paying about 4000 for two laptops (minus whatever resale value there is) for a defined level of performance.

My example obviously costs more money than 4000 for dual-SLI equipped laptops, but the performance is higher and the cost for both laptops is offset more by the higher resale value for the first dual-SLI laptop.

Then again, I'm not working on the basis of USD and even the cheap 1070 models with base-level HDD and RAM cost quite a bit more than 2000. So I'm probably wrong somewhere.

Back on topic: Yes a 1060 for 18 months on 4k would be fine for everything bar the really demanding recent releases. Even better if the 4k is for watching movies or the like and less for gaming.