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    *Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Orgrimm, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. D2 Ultima

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    Most laptops wouldn't cool such an overclock, though. However, you are right in that a 2000MHz 1060 is a definite upgrade. It would beat 980s handily.
     
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    So let's assume I get a 1060 laptop. Take a look at this ASUS and this MSI. The MSI is about a 100 bucks more (on sale just now). The major differences are that the MSI has an SSD but the ASUS has G-Sync.

    I'm a gaming lappy noob. How do MSI and ASUS's reputations compare? Does that MSI have screen tearing? If not, then I don't need G-Sync.

    I'm so close. Right on the fence. Still wondering about a 1070, though...
     
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    Mine runs a pair of 1080s in excess of 2ghz ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 22, 2016
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    Are you holding clock in FS? Is this before or after CLU mod?
     
    tgipier, Sep 22, 2016
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    Firestrike and GTAV after mod. Before it was around 1920mhz.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 22, 2016
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    IMO I'll get always the G-Sync laptop, because you can always upgrade your laptop later with a SSD.
     
    ekkolp, Sep 22, 2016
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    Screen tearing is a function of video card vs LCD timing, not dependent on laptop really. Faster refresh helps, but you can still get tearing. G-sync eliminates it entirely. So if you're sensitive to that sort of thing, go for G-sync.
     
    HTWingNut, Sep 22, 2016
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    Sorry
     
    SkidrowSKT, Sep 22, 2016
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    Get the MSI GT62VR. Has top tier cooling and G-Sync. It is thicker than the GE62 but it does the job a lot better.
     
    SkidrowSKT, Sep 22, 2016
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    Technically, 4k is the new 1080p. Which case; 1080p > 900p > 720p > etc. See where I'm going with this? If the card already performs pretty well on 4k, then 1080p is quite the step down from that.
    Now if that question was directed at 4k or something other, than I would begin to worry about the longevity of how long it'll remain a viable card within 4 years.
    With that being said, I honestly believe that it'll be a great card for 1080p for years to come.
    For example, I'm still rocking my 7970m on my R4, and I've been able to still play 1080p on every game (besides the new deus ex on medium 900p and witcher 3 on high 900p both with a sharpening effect within its architecture to appear to be 1080p anyways) on medium to high and keep a good 50-60 fps at all times. Unless a game is poorly optimized of course. Looking at you Deus >.>
    And usually that number is 60fps on 80% of the time, to this very day. And it's been what, 3-4 years now? And that's in relation to 1080p, which was the focus of that series of card back in the day - not the new market of 4k that is starting to build up, so take some comfortability in that I suppose.
    But I'm just an opinion.
     
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    The GT62VR is $1,699, has G-Sync, both an SSD + HDD, and a GTX 1070.

    MSI's pricing of the GT62 killed any reason to buy a GE62. All of those improvements for just $100 more is a steal.

    1440p is the new 1080p.
     
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    Right >.<
     
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    GE was always a budget version of the GT series and the GS was the slim version.. IMO, both just failed bad and GT would be my choice out of the 3....
     
    TomJGX, Sep 22, 2016
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    Not to mention best cooling and touchpad response. 8/10 times ide wanna throw my GE out the window.

    GG to msi on cannibalizing their lower end to make GT more available lol

    AW13 delay probably for 1050 or OLED?

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
    Kittys, Sep 22, 2016
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    They already said that the AW13 will have 1060, so it must be OLED or something else. I noticed some time ago that they pulled the OLED option from the current 13, maybe building up stock?
     
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    Bestbuy it seems is capitalizing on OLED model so who knows its possibility

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
    Kittys, Sep 22, 2016
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    Wow, the MSI GT62VR is about $2,000 on Amazon and $1,699 at the gentechpc link you provided. What's gentechpc? Why is it cheaper there?
     
    Structamention, Sep 22, 2016
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    Where ever you're looking is just poorly specced. Gentech, XoticPC, and HIDEvolution start at $1699.
     
    Galm, Sep 22, 2016
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    Actually, the GT72S is replaced by the GT73VR this year.

    The current GT72 has had it's soul sucked out, the CM236 motherboard chipset replaced by the HM170:
    http://ark.intel.com/compare/90593,90584

    This year's GT72 has 1 M.2 sockets instead of 3 M.2 (GT73VR), no display MUX switch - dGPU only, DVD only - no Blu-Ray, etc.

    The GT72 tops out with a 1070, and the GT73 can run a single 1080 or 1070 SLI (or single).
     
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    Alienware 15 and 17 with 1070 announced, 1080 coming mid November :)
     
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    How much does the new AW 15 weigh?

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    15: 1. Height: 1 inch (25.4mm) | 2. Width: 15.3 inches (389mm) | 3. Depth: 12 inches (305mm) | Average Weight: 7.69 lbs (3.49 kg)i
    17: 1. Height: 1.181 inches (29.9mm) | 2. Width: 16.7 inches (424mm) | D3. epth: 13.1 inches (332mm) | Average Weight: 9.74 lbs (4.42 kg)i

    Interesting that they use the CM236 chipset and not the usual HM170, wonder what drove that decision.
     
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    Thanks. Dang, the 15 is heavy. It weighs a pound more than the GT62VR, which has excellent cooling. But it is thinner. I'm still leaning GT62VR.

    Alienware creating a new category, "thin and heavy".

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    The GT62VR and GT72VR however are still very solid machines. They're one of the cheapest alternatives for those who wish to get rid of Optimus and still have top tier cooling.
     
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  28. Miguel Pereira

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    My problem with gt72vr is that in Portugal all versions with 1070 dont have g-sync. I think its a must have featura ate this level of price.
     
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    Are the laptops sold in Portugal the same as those in Spain? I'm looking at the GT62VR 6RD-070XES and the 6RD-56ES with the GTX 1060, and both are advertised with G-Sync.
     
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  30. Miguel Pereira

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    With 1060 we have also, but with 1070 we dont. And 1060 is a bit "weak" fo me. Well, maybe i"ll have to go to the asus g752vs, because the clevo options are too loud.
     
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    Just keep in mind the cooling solution on MSI laptops is a lot better.
    The 1060 is actually nowhere near weak, it is actually on par with the 980.
     
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    I know that is not weak, but i plan to keep the laptop for some years, and the 1070 are a better bet.
    You think that the gt72 has a significant better cooling then the asus g752vs?
     
    Miguel Pereira, Sep 23, 2016
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    Definitely, it is by miles better. The GT72 is thicker, giving more room for cooling, an it also has the ability to tune the fan curve depending on your needs. The cooler boost is also a nice feature!

    Btw, even the 1060 can be kept for many years if you plan to game on 1080p. The GTX 1070's sweet spot is more likely to be 1440p, since it comfortably hits 60+fps on most games at said resolution. If your plan is to game on 120Hz panels (which are already available in few MSI laptops), then the 1070 is your bet.
     
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  34. Miguel Pereira

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    Really? The asus is heavier and bigger. I thought that they were on par. Are you sure we're talking about the same models?

    The new gt73vr is better, but also more expensive.
     
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    Oh! I'm sorry, I just checked the model you are talking about, my bad.
    As far as I know and after reading few reviews about how both laptops manage to cool the components, it seems the GT72VR keeps the GPU at better temperatures, while both are on par when it comes to CPU stress tests.

    The GT73VR features more heatsinks (and therefore better cooling), and comes with an overclockable CPU. The G752VS is expensive too for what it offers...
     
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  36. Miguel Pereira

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    I know it is expensive, but it has g-sync, and is avaiable in Portugal. Gt73vr here only with 1080, and the GT72VR only without g-sync...

    I'm in a corner really.
     
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    The GT62VR is also a great alternative for less money. If what you said is true and the 15 inch variant comes with G-Sync in Portugal, go for it. The cooling is top notch and it also has an option for the 1070. Check this thread out if you want to see thermals and benchmarks.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-gt62vr-owners-and-discussions-lounge.793857/

    You can also look for the Eurocom Tornado F5, an equivalent for the GT62VR, but you can build one in their site! (There is an option for the i7 6700k and it is not as expensive as MSI laptops).
     
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    Id also personally recommend the clevo p650rs. I just got mine and so far I'm blown away. Cooling is phenomenal. I'm +160 on core and +700 on memory on the 1070 with 165mv on my 6700hq CPU. Gpu sits in mid to low 70s almost always while cpu is usually in the 60s with occasional jumps into the 70s. Fan is a bit wonky if you get the older ec but that's just a software fix. Has same gsync panel as gt62vr. All with factory icd paste job too ATM. Will share more after I spend few more days with.

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  39. ekkolp

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    I have a GT72VR 6RE. It has G-Sync.
     
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    Some Spanish re-sellers have the GT72VR (both 1060 and 1070 versions) and they confirmed those do not have G-Sync enabled. Some customers with verified purchases also confirmed the same.
    The GT62VR and GT72VR in the US however have G-Sync.
     
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    Of course they don't have G-Sync enabled. You have to update the bios, LOL.

    https://es.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT72VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro.html#down-bios

    As you can see, GT72VR 6RE has G-Sync.
     
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    Question, what is the best laptop that you can carry most of the time with the 1080GTX?
     
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    Well, msi themselfs in Portugal say the gt72vr units with gtx1070 dont have g-sync. Who should I believe?

    Right now i'm between 3 choices:

    -gt72vr with 1060, 256ssd and g-sync and win10 1899€
    -gt72vr with 1070, 256ssd (no win10 and no g-sync) 1899€
    -asus g752vs (512 sdd nvme, 1070, g-sync, 32gb ram, 6820hk) 2294€

    I experienced a clevo p670-rg with 1070 and 6820hk and its just toooo much noise. Clevo its not an option.
     
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  44. ekkolp

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    I'm not saying portuguese units have g-sync, I'm saying that GT72VR 6RE model HAS G-Sync (as you can see in the official web page).
    If I were you and I had the money, I would go for the Asus.
     
    ekkolp, Sep 23, 2016
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    I do have the money, and from these, the Asus is the best option I guess. Usually the Asus is around 2450-2500€ here, that is a special weekend price. I'm only worried its also noisy.
    The only gt73vr that I have avaiable is 3499€ and have a 4K panel and a 1080. That is too much for me.
     
    Miguel Pereira, Sep 23, 2016
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  46. ekkolp

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    IMO 3,5k€ in a laptop is excessive because of the upgradabilty.
     
    ekkolp, Sep 23, 2016
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    Clevo has bios update the issue is the fans are either on near max it feels or off but from that ide go asus

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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  48. Galm

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    The Clevo he said was an RG which didn't have the issue. But he did say 1070 so that would have to be the RS so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    I hope this is true and a bios update will add the G-Sync option. I am eyeing the GT62VR 6RD, and while it is advertised to support G-Sync, people who got it from the Spanish reseller couldn't find the option to enable it in the Nvidia control panel. Thanks for shedding the light!

    BTW, your link shows nothing; it only prompts me to register a GT72VR. xD
     
    SkidrowSKT, Sep 23, 2016
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  50. ekkolp

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    Oh, so only registered members/machines can access to it. No problem, I paste an image of the actual driver and the commentary:

    [​IMG]

    These are the BIOS drivers for the GT72VR 6RE.
     
    ekkolp, Sep 23, 2016
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