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    *Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Orgrimm, Aug 15, 2016.

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    But remember, you’re the “ultra settings don’t matter” guy. :rolleyes:
     
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    thats true....medium vs ultra is slieght...and I will stand by it that ultra vs medium is a joke...im just saying he lowered more than one setting...will it matter visually...no it won't but still...im catering to you guys who absolutely need ultra.....trying to keep it relevant
     
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    News surrounding the limited TDP of all new RTX cards are making me think they will be significantly slower than their desktop counterparts. Meaning the RTX2060 will probably barely match a regular 1070 for laptops.

    I just hope the 2080 max q, without RTX, is not much slower than the GTX1080 haha. I can deal with 35% performance loss :p but 40 to 50% might be a bit too much.
     
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    Well supposedly there is going to be a twin line with the RTX parts trimmed off. Still waiting to see how gimped it would be.

    Sent from my LM-Q710.FGN using Tapatalk
     
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  6. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    The weakest 2080Max-Q is more like 36% of RTX 2080 Fe’s TDP :D 80 vs. 225W
     
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    What the actual....?

    Am I reading this correct?

    2080Q has 80W TDP?
     
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  8. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yeah, the most crippled variant of this high end graphics cards. Created to be able to run in thinnest possible notebook models. Aka design before functionality.
     
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    AKA bullsh*t.
     
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    At 80W TDP, it is barely a GTX 1060, and barely
     
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    They also make a 90W RTX 2080MQ with higher clocks.
     
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  12. Georgel

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    This meme is the only answer that works for this situation :)

    They are really going to the bottom with this. I really think it is a poor marketing stunt to pull in those who don't even study what they purchase.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Jarrod just tested the P775TM and I
    I am worried why did he only get 23500 graphics points in 3DMark FireStrike, this is pretty low for an RTX 2080, my old factory overclocked gtx 1080 could get this.

    Software issue ?
    Overheating issue ?
    Or bad power phase design ? (11 single phase fet)
     
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hmm....so if i run a game uncapped the moment that the GPU load hits 99% the core clock drops to about 900-1000MHz for no reason and therefore causes the fps to tank. It seems to be doing it for all games and as a result I have to cap the fps to where it won't peak at 99% GPU load.
     
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    Sounds like you have a driver issue (have you DDU'd?) or another "broken" laptop
     
  16. thegh0sts

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    DDU I have used. I'll get a desktop soon.

    EDIT: I think my OC was screwing me over so i am gonna trial it without an OC.
     
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    Did you check your memory frequency too? I had a similar issues with 980M. Sometimes overvolting helps. I have M.2 EGPU adaptor and I will use it for games when I get rtx 2060 or navi.
     
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    OK even at stock GPU clocks whenever it peaks into 99% it down clocks for no reason. not sure if it's a power issue or what.

    The only way I can workaround it is to cap the fps to half the screen refresh rate - ie. 72fps in order to prevent the GPU load from peaking at 99%. Definitely will be eyeing a desktop instead.

    72fps is still playable in my view.
     
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  19. RMXO

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    Do you guys think a full gtx 1080 in the Aorus X7 DT v8 is still worth getting with a $300-500 discount?
     
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    I have no idea what the Nahimic Service does but it seems to have been the cause of my GPU load bug that I was having. I can't seem to uninstall the damn service so I've had it disabled for a few days now and it seems to be working.
     
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    It's some kind of service related to sound, but exactly what it does I do not know. Maybe by updating your sound drivers to the latest version might remove the bug.
     
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    I'm using a USB sound card because the onboard sound has some weird issues. so i disabled the realtek sound and the nahimic service and it's seems to be all good. i might do a reformat to see if the Nahimic service is auto installed by default or it's something i have to install. if it's auto installed then i'll have to disable the service, but if it's something i can install then i just won't install it.

    simple... i think.
     
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    If you're using a seperate USB sound card (I do the same), then you don't need motherboard sound like Nahimic installed, so I think you're good to go.
     
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    The weird audio issues i have is that sometimes the audio sounds tinny when headphones are plugged in, but then i tried different headphones and they were fine so i think it's my headphones screwing up there. But in either case I still don't want the nahimic service anyway.

    So looks like I am gonna need to replace my headphones...probably.

    EDIT: so...

    onboard sound + nahimic service = ok
    USB sound card - nahimic service = ok
     
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    @Robbo99999 I think I am going to blame the Razer Kraken headset that I had because it was having some weird issue where if I plugged it in it would sometimes sound tinny. This them made me think that it was a hardware or a driver issue that caused me to get the USB sound card and probably caused the conflict between the USB sound card and the Nahimic service to cause the GPU load issue.

    So I tried some other headphones and they all worked fine so I bought a pair of steelseries arctis 3s and they too work fine so... shrug.

    but I am still keeping the nahimic service disabled.

    EDIT: nope, the onboard audio jack is still doing the tinny audio BS!
     
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    Looks like my issue still exists....urgh! Perfcap reason is power so I don't know if that's because of bad hardware or what?

    I guess I'll just have to cap my FPS then.
     
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  27. Robbo99999

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    Perfcap reason Power in GPUz means that the GPU has it's maximum TDP power limit that's written into the vBIOS of the card, so it throttles at that point.
     
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    but it shouldn't tank the FPS. I dunno if it's the PSU or something on the motherboard.
     
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    Yeah, it shouldn't tank the fps, but that's what that limit reason means in GPUz - Pwr means that the TDP limit of the GPU has been reached, it doesn't report on PSU limitations.
     
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    TBH I can't tell if it's a hardware failure, PSU, or driver.
     
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    You must be sure vrm cooling check vrm temperatures with temp gun if you can.
     
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    Hi guys. I recently started having a issue when my 1070 GPU notebook wouldnt boost but stay just above the stock base core clocks at around 1519-1560 MhZ range. I don't know why all the downclocking all of a sudden. I used DDU to created a new clean installation of the GPU driver but still same issue. Is this normal? If the GPU is below 75 % then it would boost to 1620 + but never touch 1700 + but higher the usage of the GPU would reduce the core clocks but not below the stock base clocks for the 1070 which is 1443 Mhz or somewhere around there. Should I be concerned or this normal as long as the card doesnt downclocks lower than the stock core clocks etc? Please advise. I'm just maybe concerned something on the board is overheating? my temps are below 70 c degrees on high usage. Even with reduced clocks that arent boosting to their full potential my FPS seems just as good as clocks that's used to boost up to 1650 + Mhz. Thanks guys. My cards wattage seems normal as well and it get spikes of 120 + watts TDP. Thanks
     
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    Can anybody speak to the specs of the 1050 3gb? I read a page (or watched a video) a little while back, but can't find it again, that put the 1050 3gb as faster than the 1050, but not as fast as the Ti.
     
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    This game performance video opens with specs, the 3gb has lower memory bandwidth 84.1gbps vs 112gbps for 2GB/4GBti, 3GB 96-bit vs 2GB/4GBti 128-bit, but higher clocks on the 3gb, fps differences are small but the 3gb looks slightly higher in some games:

    GTX 1050 (2GB) VS. GTX 1050 (3GB) VS. GTX 1050 Ti (4GB) | New Games Benchmarks


    GTX 1050 3GB vs GTX 1050 2GB Test in 8 Games


    Quick HU review:

    GeForce GTX 1050 3GB, New Budget King or Misleading Product?
     
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  35. raduque

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    Those are desktop cards, I didn't think the same thing applies to laptop chips.
     
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    They could be different - could be the same - I didn't find any 3GB 1050 laptops. :)

    What laptop make / model are you looking at?
     
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    The 1050 is getting kinda old...

    There are lots of new laptops coming from CES 2020, maybe wait and see what's coming in the next few months?

    Or do you need something today / now?

    I took a quick look and found this GTX 1650 from Walmart's sale from a $500-$700 search, it's a nice budget build with a bit newer parts, $300 discount right now, $70 more than your pick:

    ASUS TUF 15.6" Full HD Gaming Laptop, AMD Ryzen 7 R7-3750H, GeForce GTX 1650, 8GB DDR4, 256GB PCIe SSD, Windows 10 Home, Black, FX505DT-WB72
    ASUS Model: FX505DT-WB72 Walmart # 575930777
    Average rating: 4.5out of 5stars, based on 13reviews
    $699.00 WAS $999.00
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/ASUS-TUF...-Windows-10-Home-Black-FX505DT-WB72/777091002

    Newegg has it for $839, a nice place to look at specs and reviews (amazon too):

    ASUS TUF Gaming Laptop, 15.6” Full HD IPS-Type, AMD Ryzen 7 R7-3750H, GeForce GTX 1650, 8GB DDR4, 256GB PCIe SSD, Windows 10 Home, FX505DT-WB72 Notebook PC Computer
    AMD Ryzen 7 R7-3750H Processor
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB
    15.6 inch Full HD screen (1920x1080)
    256GB NVMe SSD
    8GB DDR4 RAM
    Gigabit Wave 2 Wi-Fi (802.11ac)
    RGB Backlit Keyboard
    https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-001A-00S88

    It's also an "inexpensive" laptop build, so there will be trade-offs :)



    This 17.3" model on Amazon has a larger SSD for more: $788 (was $1359), and there's good reviews to check out...IDK if they apply to the 15" model too...it looks like Amazon may have sold out of the 15" model... let us know if you find a listing for it there.

    2019 ASUS TUF 17.3" FHD Gaming Laptop Computer, AMD Ryzen 7 3750H Quad-Core up to 4.0GHz, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB PCIE SSD, GeForce GTX 1650 4GB, 802.11ac WiFi, Bluetooth 4.2, HDMI, Windows 10
    https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-Gaming-Quad-Core-Bluetooth/dp/B07V5FPM21
     
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  39. raduque

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    I saw that, but the TUF laptops are hideously ugly, and it's more than I want to spend. With the GCs, I'll be putting less than $300 out of pocket for the laptop and the total budget is about $650. The i5-9300H blows away the 3750, and I'll be using it for content creation as well as light/mobile gaming.

    Appreciate it :)
     
  40. hmscott

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    Hey, that's all there is available, as you found, so if you gotta get something now it's what's available at your budget. You can always try it out and see how you like it, and return it if the new laptops coming out get there in time.

    As far as ugly, I don't think I've ever seen an ugly laptop - maybe it's just me...

    It depends on what you are interest in doing, gaming or CPU benchmarks. The 1650 should well outperform the 1050 in games by a wide margin...





    Not as good of a CPU for the 1050, but it should be within a few FPS compared to the 9300H, the 1650 clearly outclasses the 1050:



    The new Ryzen 4xxxH CPU's should make a big improvement, and it will be interesting to see what we get at $600-$700 when they come out.

    Good luck :)
     
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    Well, I'm just not a big fan of the whole "gamer" aesthetic anymore. The TUF just doesnt appeal to me. But the Pavilion Gaming, subtle green logo, and sleek design ... it just suits my tastes better.

    I think itll work just fine for my usage, and you're absolutely right - I can just return it if I'm not happy. Walmart takes anything back :D
     
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    Honestly AMEN, I'd rather have something muted and simple to take around with me. Hell just give me a business laptop ala thinkpad style or similar and slap the same beefy components in. If I want to customize it I can
     
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    A Clevo P750TM1 without stickers or branding. Mine kinda looks like a laptop from 1998. But it sure performs.
     
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    The Lenovo Legions are really the only professional looking gaming-oriented laptops out there. They would not be out of place in a sea of Thinkpads.
     
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    It's actually ok to stand out with a gaming laptop these days. Bright shoes, funny clothes, gaming laptops, it's a fashion statement - be proud of it. :)

    I once had a colleague I watched agonize over getting a gaming laptop for months before he finally saw all of us enjoying ours long enough to get one. That was a while ago, and it didn't even have RGB or color, just a shape off box - a stealth laptop shape.

    He was never happier when he got it, and no one complained, the boss complimented him, and everyone got back to work.

    You could always wrap it if you want to tone it down. Turn off the RGB - I do - and don't make a big deal over it.

    Most people are focused on work, not what you have on your desk. Your friends might rib you, but it's all in good fun.

    I always ask the manager above me before bringing in personal electronics to work, and there are often rules and paperwork (wifi/network security) to fill out, so don't skip that.

    Never hook up the personal laptop to the technology / engineering / financial networks, use the designated network drop (you will need a re-assignment of a socket to get a non-work network), and only use the guest or employee network wifi - even if they are down.

    I would use cellular only networks and stay off the monitored company approved networks, sign up for them, login once to make sure you have access in case the cell is down, but don't do personal business over the company networks.

    These days with email / texting on phones, there's less of a need for a personal laptop, but use it for a 2nd access network when there are local network problems with test tools and can use it in a pinch when required. I only use it when specifically approved. There have been power outages over the years and network outages where it's come in handy.

    Also never use a storage device to transfer files back and forth between company computers and your personal devices, that should be obvious, but less so unless you know.

    Again, don't worry about how ugly a laptop is, nobody that matters cares, and once the screen is up and you are focusing on work or fun, what's inside is all that matters. :)
     
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    Oh, I don't have to worry about the work stuff, I do manual labor :)

    I also use my phone's hotspot because our guest network is trash. I work overnights as well, and we are way lax on the night shift

    Nonetheless, excellent advice.
     
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