*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

It should still play them just fine, though turned down a bit like you may have to run something at high instead of ultra.

 

at what frame rate?

60/1080 all games with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions

edit...nope

with a tiny overclock// all games

 

Well definitely above 30 for a smooth gameplay.
Like I am looking forwards to some upcoming games like the Metro and the latest Total Warhammer 2 that I cant play smoothly on my 860m right now.

 

The GTX 1070 will do just fine. Take a look at Notebookcheck's benchmarks and you'll see the GTX 1070 is mostly surpassing 60 fps in Ultra at 1080p. If you add the fact that sometimes Ultra and High settings have little visual difference then you have a lot more wiggle room.

In the particular case of TW:W2, Creative Assembly is stating these system requirements:

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PC 60fps+ Specifications:

Expected 60 FPS+ on campaign map and in a 1v1, 20 units vs 20 units battle, default graphics preset set to “Ultra”, running at 1920×1080

Operating System: Windows 7/8.1/10 64Bit

Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-4790K 4.0 GHz

RAM: 8 GB

Install size: 60 GB

Video Card: Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB

If your objective is 30+ fps then the GTX 1070 should serve you well

 

Thanks for info, but with the 11xx series coming this summer or near, I'm very hesitant to get one now.

 

Of course, you could wait for a sale on GTX 1080 as well

on GTX 1080, you can do pretty much every game out there maxxxed out on 4K

I don't foresee getting anything higher than 4K / 60 Hz in the foreseeable future due to tech not being quite higher yet

I'd still upgrade from GTX 1080 for using more aggressive madVR profiles, but that is a really specific user case scenario, and really, for gaming, GTX1080 is as high as I expect most people to go on 4K / 60fps. Not sure about higher framerates and what they ask for tho

 

MSI GE63VR 7RF Raider (i7-7700HQ - GTX 1070) Review by Techpowerup.com

• Single-channel memory
• Inconsistent gaming performance
• Thermal throttle
• Lackluster battery life
• Loud under maximum load

General Analysis Continued »

General Analysis
Where to begin? I suppose it would be best to look at performance first. Depending on the synthetic benchmark or game, test graphics performance is all over the place. In some tests, it performs as expected, and in others, it is similar to a GTX 1060. This is unacceptable considering it's a GTX 1070 under the hood. This performance problem is due to the single channel memory MSI decided to use in these units. Multiple drivers and OS installs made no difference. No errors or issues were encountered. It boiled down to lower CPU clocks than desktop parts and single channel memory being the limiting factor.


Awful results from i7-7700Hq. Even with single ram stick is this performance results all too low.



Working 7700Hq.

 

30fps is fine... for a controller, definitely not for a keyboard and mouse.

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Ouch. Btw wtf is up with TPU jumping to the next page just from scrolling to the bottom? That is bs. I like the line(s) I'm reading to be in the middle to top portion of my screen.

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Can the RAM be upgraded to 2x8? I couldn't quite tell from the pics and don't see it mentioned elsewhere.

 

Mate, you can do 2 x 8gb or 2 x 16gb.

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Sorry for replying to an old post, but how easy is this to do? I have a 1070 in this chassis at the moment that is dying on me and I can't afford to be without a laptop over the next few weeks to send it for repair but it's the same price for me to get a 1080 so if the upgrade is doable I'm thinking I might as well.

 

Does anybody know where I can find modded vBios for MSI GTX 1080 laptop?
I want to downclock it as much as I want.
NVidia Inspector now allows only -200hz, which is just -10%. MSI Afterburner -400hz, which is still hot.

 

I think there is a guy named svet on the msi forums. You have to buy it though.

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Yeah, I know, he helped me a lot with my GT60 bios and vbios.

He replied me a few minutes ago. Apparently I can't just flash vBios with software anymore...

Quote from: Svet on Sun Jun 24 2018 18:25:29 GMT+0700 (Indochina Time)
you need hardware SPI programmer to able to install a modded vBIOS for 10 series
with proper voltage and proper SOIC8 test clip

 

Huh. Weird. Last I heard the Clevo guys are flashing their bios all over the place. Mind you their guy works directly with the manufacturer for the parts if I recall right.

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That what I think. It's just weird. I asked Svet if it's only MSI, but he said "all nvidia 10 series".

I just want to be able to downclock my GPU for less demanding games... why is everything not as easy as before... my GT60 has 980m from Clevo and Prema modded vBios and everything works just fine!

 

Do you have an fps limiter? I use Riva tuner and that keeps my gpu's in line most of the time.

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Just ran nvflash -b and it says "ERROR: No NVIDIA display adapters found".
That is very disturbing news.
First thing I found out that my new laptop has soldered CPU, now this??? WTF is going on?....

FPS are limited by v-sync or with another ingame limiter, BUT GPU just runs at 1845hz and heats up for no reason, while GPU load is below 50%...
With MSI Afterburner I can make it 1445hz and it's still 60% load and fan starts to spin fast to keep it under 75°

 

Check with our Support Team - provide all details here including version of vbios that you are running: [link to own site removed by moderator - read forum rules]

 

Yea, most MSI laptops have soldered cpu's. As for the Nvidia thing I'm not surprised they are trying to lock it down as much as possible.

And true enough, not sure I can suggest then.

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There are still quite a few MSI laptops with MXM3 based GPUs that are GPU upgradeable so just check what you are buying.and don't buy BGA GPU laptops that are disposable.

 

The problem now is with changing power and thermal requirements they arnt really upgradeable anymore.

Kind of a shame their trade in program was a stop gap measure and might not be carried on. But I drift off topic.

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They're using hardware programmers and (for the 4 core systems), the pascal bios editor, which doesn't work on 6 core systems. So no, nothing new to see here. Nothing inaccurate about the post above yours. Svet is 100% right. You need SPI programmer and 1.8v adapter and the clip.

 

Negative core offset doesn't do a whole lot to reduce power since turbo boost 3.0 will still self OC up to the board max power regardless. You want a modded vbios with adjustable power limit to truly control gpu power consumption and thus temperatures.

Until then a frame cap in RTSS (if you have gsync, set to display refresh minus 3 e.g. 57 for 60hz) and that will stop the gpu rendering wasted frames. Also, 60fps at high settings will use less gpu power than ultra and 1080p less than 1440p/4K.

 

Our Trade In Program is still on and our next gen models are coming with MXM3 upgradeable GPUs and socket based CPUs.

 

Hold up! For which model? I have a Msi gt83 and before I back flip for joy are you saying that it might have those.


Also I bought mine from a 3rd party so I can't get it.


Also I wanted to clarify I meant the one directly from MSI.

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We offer trade in program for all MSI models to GPU and CPU upgradeable Eurocom models suche as Tornado F5 series, Sky X9C, Sky X7C and Sky X4C. Check with our sales Team for detais.

 

Thanks I'll have to keep that in mind during my next upgrade cycle.

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please keep this on subject.

 

Wrong thread.

 

Hello there!

How about the external mini display ports, do these work in your machine?

After I upgraded my p751dm2 with 1080 I couldn't make them work, tested with many versions of modded drivers.

 

I wonder how the GTX 10 Series laptops would perform against the upcoming RTX 20 Series ones... I am debating on the cost vs. efficiency of the new RTX line-up whether or not those would be worth the upgrade. Also, what are your opinions.. do you think the GTX 10 Series of laptops would have a mark down in prices when the new RTX series come out? If so, in how many months most likely?

Forgive me if these questions have been asked before or were discussed on a seperate thread... there are just too meany threads on Nvidia in when I did a quick search.

 

No worries mate. From what I have seen and assume they are supposed to be continuing their within 10% performance. However there is a vast difference between that being said and done.

As well as there are rumors of an 11 GTX series that scraps ray tracing and I think Tensor cores.


10 series laptops should go down in price but in all honesty 20 rtx is a bit of a flop IMO so we might see Pascal stick around a bit longer.

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Thank you so much I thought I would be bashed around like in other forums I have been on. xD

Hmm, I wonder if that would be worth it... I guess we would have to wait until the embargo lifts... I am just dying of anxiety xD I am aiming to get a new laptop in a couple of months and well, I do not want to make a purchase I might regret.

Honestly speaking, I could not really tell much of a difference between the Ray Tracing equipped RTX line-up and the regular GTX 10 Series ones when I saw the CES showcases. I might just be too used to not playing on High End Graphics to notice much changes... For me, they are both excellent... I don't know...

I hope they go down within the next few months after RTX releases xD I do not want to be the guy who buys a shiny new gaming laptop only to have the prices of said laptop go down after a few days.. That would be very hurtful.

 

It looks like the highest TDP Max-P versions of the RTX 2080 and 2070 are the only ones that can come close to that. The Max-Q versions and the 2060 are way slower than their desktop counterparts.

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Yea. I haven't seen much about the 20 series as I'm not all that much interested in upgrading from Pascal. Lol

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OC 2060 vs 1080 stock


OC 2060 vs 1060 stock

 

thanks for that cj...2060 is close to a 1080...i'd say its a big jump and the 20xx series is just as big of a jump from pascal as pascal was from maxwell.....plenty to be excited about.

 

The reviewer should have tested the games with other resolution like 1440P. I' pretty sure the difference would be huge.

 

The mobile version of RTX 2060 is crippled vs. desktop version. Almost half the TDP! Good luck get close to 1080 performance with the 2060 mobile *castreated* version.

 

oh thats not good. I just hope its better than a 1060

 

My wallet will be happy if this happens.

 

The problem is... it isnt. The 2060 is basically a 1070ti, with the same power requirements and nearly the same price at this point. There was close to 0% increase in performance as price bracket. You can find some 1060's as low as 220, and the competition (RX 580) as low as 180dlrs.

starting at 350 and upwards to 450 is over twice the price for an average 50%+ increase in performance.

that being said, the RTX2060 is currently the best GPU in the price bracket of 350dlrs, unless you can find the competition (1070ti/1080 /vega56) for cheaper. Which is unlikely imo.

And since the 2070 is basically close to the 1080, a bit faster, the 2060 makes the 2070 look like a bad investment.

 

I have to agree with ryzeki. the 2060 looks like the card to get unless you must have ray tracing

 

The 2060 does ray tracing though.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeFor...orce-RTX-2060-Desktop_9581_9556.247598.0.html

 

it might do ray tracing but at 1080p/60 I highly doubt

 

You’d be surprised.

 

he says if you had have asked him if 2060 could do raytracing after trying it on a 2080ti he would have laughed in your face.....so im on track....he had to lower textures and raytracing