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    Overclocked Asus W90 laptop with 4870 X2 breaks 20,000 in 3DMark06

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Jlbrightbill, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    This deserves it's own thread in the Gaming forum.

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=218157
    There is absolutely no way a single GT200 card in the upcoming Clevo can break this score, so it will be the unchallenged performance king for potentially upwards of a year.

    Unprecedented? Indeed. It's about time ATI brought some fire to the mobility market, and now we're seeing how competition benefits the consumer. NVidia's gaming laptops are potentially out of a job.
     
  2. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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  3. Jlbrightbill

    Jlbrightbill Notebook Deity

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    Nah I followed Red Dragon's link, then followed their link, which took me to another site, and finally got me to Xtremesystems. I regularly read and post in their forums but I don't typically read that subforum or I would have brought it over here sooner. I saw your link later while reading the W90 thread you posted it in.
     
  4. avanish11

    avanish11 Panda! ^_^

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    Hey I have that same mousepad :p
     
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    Ah, I was wondering about that. I was surprised no one posted that link earlier too. Saw your post in MSI a few minutes after mine and I was wondering.

    I'm actually surprised at the OC'ing ability of the CPU and the fans. Not too surprised at the 4870's performance, but the CPU overclocking is pretty impressive.

    Still, an 18.4 is going to be a pain to carry around. Not so much weight wise, but just pure size.

    I'm actually considering to downgrade from my 9262.
     
  6. Jlbrightbill

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    Well if you look at the chipset it's using an Intel X38 platform, if CPU-Z can be trusted. Given Asus' proven ability to develop top notch X38 boards, the overclocking ability does not surprise me. They know what they're doing in the motherboard business.
     
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    The W90 is definitely using X38 boards, their own design specs say as much. I'm actually impressed with the CPU too. :D
     
  8. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well i hate to say i told ya'll so, but i won't :D

    When i look at asus i just dont know what to say anymore, they've gone from an unknown brand, to being a value beater and now they are kicking notebooks that cost 3 times the price truly phenomenal im happy to know that when im ready to get a gaming notebook from Asus itll be capable. Asus also has a couple of gaming notebooks left.......nuff said :D
     
  9. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    dont forget...

    the Clevo D900F is going back to its roots.... single high-end GPU with desktop CPU

    there is still
    - the Clevo M980NU .... with SLI high-end cards (GTX 200 series) and quad-core CPU.

    but the Asus W90 does look quite impressive. :)
     
  10. aznofazns

    aznofazns Performance Junkie

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    OMG! It's even difficult to break 20,000 3dmarks with a desktop system fully loaded with a C2Q and dual HD 4870's... What I would like to know is how the person got that CPU up to 4ghz at a measly 1.263 vcore... I think he needs to prime95 it for at least 6 hours to prove stability.
     
  11. Jlbrightbill

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    I'd like to see GT 200 competitive for pricing sake, I just don't think NVidia was prepared for this cannot shot across the bow. ATI brought over nearly identical specs to the Mobility 4870 from the desktop 4870, and NVidia hasn't exactly been known for that over the years.
     
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    Let's just get this clear.

    ASUS IS NOT AN UNKNOWN BRAND.
     
  13. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    yeah.. the pricing is probably going to be very high for those vidoecard modules.

    Nvidia seems to want to charge people premiums for the best performance and bragging rights.

    I would actually choose the D900F over a dual videocard setup.

    Like my current D900K, the D900F will be meant for heavy processing and a workstation that can still play games well.
    .... I really want the 8 threads and a high-end Geforce or Quadro. :D
     
  14. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I KNOW THAT CAPS GUY :D

    Let me ask you this question though if you go on the street and ask random people if theyve seen the new asus notebooks do you think people will even know what you are talking about? Ask yourself that. Im referring to the north American market with this statement i know how popular it is everywhere else.
     
  15. Kevin

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    The GTX 260 Core 216 is the only card I see being feasible for the development of the mobile GT200 line. 40nm, GDDR5? It ain't gonna be built on the 9800GTX+ core.
     
  16. aznofazns

    aznofazns Performance Junkie

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    Can you rephrase that?
     
  17. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    See my edit. I was rephrasing and forgot to put that back into the sentence.
     
  18. aznofazns

    aznofazns Performance Junkie

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    Oh ok. Well, obviously they're not going to make a mobile 9800GTX+ since there's already a 9800M GTX, but I wouldn't be surprised if they released a 192-core GTX 260 to save costs. A mobile GTX 280 would be nice too...
     
  19. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    omg. 4ghz quad in a laptop...
    i wonder why they didn't use gddr5 for the graphics memory though.
     
  20. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

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    so was the laptop usable after it caught on fire
     
  21. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    the guys in the original thread said the cooling system is actually pretty good. no idea how good though :confused:
     
  22. Micaiah

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    According to that thread, it's keeping the 4870x2 running at 70-85C. I would say that is pretty good.
     
  23. Kevin

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    I'm more interested in the CPU temps, which he didn't provide.
     
  24. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    i wouldn't call that good. if the laptop is designed to house two hd4870s then it should be able keeping them under 80 underload.
     
  25. aznofazns

    aznofazns Performance Junkie

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    Yeah I'm also very interested in CPU temps.
     
  26. Micaiah

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    HD 4800 owners can tell you that keeping two RV770 GPUs under 85C is quite an accomplishment. The recent ATi GPUs tends to run pretty hot.
     
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    aznofazns Performance Junkie

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    Not sure about 2 HD 4800 cards, but I keep mine below 70C at all times as long as I set manually set my fan to 50% during gaming with a room temperature of about 71C. It does run REALLY loud though... anything above 50% starts interfering with in-game sound quality, and 100% is seriously like a lawnmower.
     
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    Yeah, I'm doing the same, except I flashed the card with a new fan profile instead of using CCC. There's been quite a few 4850 burning up though; their reference single slot heatsink isn't working out for them, fixed fan speed or not.

    I had an All-In-Wonder X1900 that ran up to 95C while gaming, and never had issues with it. I wish I hadn't sold it.
     
  29. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    I have a really hard time believing that any notebook cooling could keep cool a 4GHz quad core CPU, and two HD4870 GPU's. That's pretty insane when you consider how close the parts are together and the fact that it's air cooling on a NOTEBOOK. If that is true.. wow.
     
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    Man thats sick, I was not able to quite hit 20k on my desktop (19,800ish) with dual 4850's but that was due to my cpu bottlenec Iwas only able to get 3.7ghz on my q6600. 3dmark gives lots of points for cpu and the cpu can bottleneck high end cards easy.

    So 3dmark numbers while a good general "feeler" number do not translate directly into gaming performance all the time.

    Its actually best to note the cpu & gpu score separately rather than the final point score for that reason also.

    I want a nice quad core laptop for video editing but this one is a tad overkill since its for gaming it would break the bank for sure.

    My opinion on the gpu temps, those are great. I am used to seeing 80+ on Nvidia cards and the ATI cards are known to run in the 90's even on desktops.

    There thermal spec has them like at 130c before it throttles to prevent damage, so those temps are great.

    CPU temp though... that is the real question.
     
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    3DMark 06 score is amazing, but it does not really offer any indication of gaming performance.
    What would be much better is to benchmark some games like CRYSIS to see were it stands against all the others,but still 20,000 points is amazing
     
  32. Kevin

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    The 4870 will pee in the 9800M GTX's coffee, kick its dog, then run off with its wife.
     
  33. Jlbrightbill

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    SM3.0 subscore is 9500 which is 86% as fast as the desktop card.

    It'll fly.
     
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    North America is not the world. Neither is NBR solely North American. And to be honest, if you were to ask this question to random people on the street about any brand outside of Apple, you would probably get quite a number of negative responses.

    Dell/HP/Lenovo don't advertise as much as Apple does, leaving consumers to be unaware of new models unless they happen to see it in a magazine or a random ad somewhere. Whenever a new Apple product is released, ads for it are plastered everywhere.
     
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    Sweet..wish my notebook had the same card (4870x2) as my desktop :(
     
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    That's a valid point and one I would agree with, but we can make a reasonable conclusion based on the following: stock for stock, a Mobility 4850 actually beats a 9800M GTX in Crysis. In Warhead it's a bit more even and in Far Cry 2, the 9800M GTX has the edge with updated drivers. So if 1 MR 4850 is already doing this, think about what two MR 4870s would do.
     
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    Still not good enough imo. I wonder how long until 25k + in 3DMark06 with a laptop .. then I'd be intrested.
     
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    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    ?

    First I plan to buy Core i7 desktop, after see this I'm rethinking about it .

    When I can see these babyz... in UK? Any ideas?
     
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    thats phenomenal, way to go ATI, sick of the monopoly so this seemed to have quited Nvidia, their power hungry cards will not be able to match this at the same price point.
     
  40. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    in the uk? i won't bet on that.
    we still can't even buy a n80 with 9650m gt here.
     
  41. bigspin

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    Arrrrrr.............. :realmad:

    ya.....that's true
     
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    And so it begins. This is going to be interesting. How is nVidia going to top this off.

    Now I just hope that they don't start making 25 inch laptops and stick to 17inch and below. I am still going to pik up a NP9262 for 3k sli 9800s because i think it will be best bang for my buck, then getting this laptop. Which will be like 5000.

    Laptop prices cannot keep rising just because they got uber GPUS.
     
  43. Red_Dragon

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    I know north america is not the world, but you are also wrong about the Dell and HP thing those are HOUSEHOLD names i mean come on this isnt back in the day when they only use to make computers. They now make printers,mouses,keyboards, etc. Heck HP even makes phones now.

    You flipped the question on me, I was basically stating at the beginning that years ago no one even knew what asus laptops were........and now everyone knows about them and what they can do....that's it.
     
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    I'm very hapy with my asus :)
     
  45. Red_Dragon

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    Yeah asus is great :D
     
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    Ichime where is the benchmarks with one M4850 against one single 9800m GTX? I haven´t seen any official ones.
     
  47. Red_Dragon

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    i wonder what one single G280 can put up? According to this nvidia "chart" that i saw one G280 is suppose to be 2x faster then one 4870 i find it hard to believe though.
     
  48. Kevin

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    MSI forum -> GT725 Owner's Lounge has 4850 vs GT vs GTX.

    This thing is only 2199.99! That's insane for the performance given.
     
  49. Magnus72

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    Thanks will check it out :)
     
  50. Kevin

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    This thing is only $2199.99! That's insane for the performance given. It's looking like mobile gaming just took a giant leap forward.
     
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