PS3 graphics VS newest PC graphics.

Unlike you I dont really care what people think, I'm quite happy with a console, I've got a couple friends with v. high spec pcs and its just not worth it for what you end up paying.

 

Whatcha talkin' 'bout fool.
Open your eyes, seriously, there are a few out on the 360 (TBS) and they've even got n-ninja (boo-ya)

 

I suppose if you are buying from Alienware or like manufacturers it isn't worth it. I built a $700 PC 2 years ago that still keeps up with the modern consoles.

What are you talking about? I don't understand that statement at all.

 

exactly, my laptop was a bit more then 700, but it wont outlast my $400 console for gaming

 

No there is no advanced turnbased wargames on any console. Show me a hexbased wargame on the console will ya?

 

You see, the quote button is used to talk about someones previous post(s), I was talking to Magnus, not you, so it doesn't matter if you don't understand, not that it's very hard to anyway.

 

Then I mean hardcore wargames, just like those I make graphics for.

 

OK, fair doos, have fun with that graphically awesome garbage. I thought you ment TBSs, but oh well.

 

turn based strategy... is that like Risk?? :-D

 

At least you have to use your brain to play them, unlike console games That is the same old same old, nothing new gameplay wise. Well I am not here to insult anyone, but these kind of games does not need any 3D graphics at all.

 

You mean like the hardcore game type on CoD4, thats pretty realistic, it's just noobs that ruin most games. My hatred for noobs knows no bounds

 

I suppose, but I ment virtual, I've always wanted to play a proper game of Risk, probably never happen. How about Advance Wars, that was a a great GBA TBS, I think I may even have it on my PPC...

EDIT: Sorry for double posting... again

 

good example of another PC advantage. The noob population is far less (maybe not in CS:S).

 

Nah Cod4 is a fps, these are actual wargames where you are an general or a commander and moves regiments and batallions on the screen.

 

Well I guess we should all break out the chess boards to prove how smart we are. We don't even need electricity for that!

 

Have you ever heard of Centurion for Sega Genesis? I still have that boring pile of a game in my basement, and it is TBS from 20 years ago on a console.

 

Online Chess Tourney

 

Yeah Centurion Defender of Rome an old classic. Played it on my Amiga back in the good old days. Trash today, yeah but back in those days no.

Though just say the console games is the same old same old with just new graphics, console fanboys gets angry right away since it´s insulting to them. Sure PC´s gets those multiplats too, however the PC still has more diversity among it´s games.

However these kind of threads belong to gamespot forums system wars, since this is what basically these threads turns into every single time.

 

I'm still not sure how more diversity = fewer games to choose from. I'm not a console fanboy; I have a laptop equal to yours minus the other 8800gtx, which the advantage of having weighed against the cost is totally unjustifiable in the present. I just can't stand it when pc gamers put forth an elitist attitude thinking they are smarter than people who game on consoles. I might stay up all night sniping people in GTA, but I'll take an intelligence test against the smarmiest TBS gamers you can find.

 

Well lots of gamers just look at the fps, rpg, sports, racing released. Many older like me actually plays on the other side of the gaming world, specifically actual wargames which a lot of the younger people find boring due to the graphics. But if they go beyond all nifty 3D graphics (which by the way all 3D games does not look good, but they has to be 3D else they won´t sell) they will find games that actually has replay value over and over again and has great gameplay. This is what I mean with diversity.

PC does not have fewer games than consoles, it´s just that this gen´s people never look at such games, find them boring and hard to understand, get my point?

 

My 2 cents:

Price:

If you do not need a PC, then sure, a console is the easiest and cheapest way to go for gaming.

However, if you do need a high end PC (I needed one to run numerical simulations for research) then you add $250 bucks for a decent graphics card which actually will help your work if it is graphically intensive and this route becomes significantly cheaper (and possibly more powerful) than buying a non-gaming laptop and a console separately.

The $250 I got from comparing a T61 with a similarly specced T61p.

Games

I personally keep my ps2 around for the great RPGs that were released on it, but prefer playing FPS and RTS on my PC. Its all a matter of preference.

I was debating on a laptop and console combo vs. a gaming laptop, but when Mass Effect and Bioshock were released for the PC I decided to go with the latter. Too bad the SMT series is likely going to be a PS3 exclusive .

 

I deleted much of what you said, lol (BF2 is overrated, fear is not my game, the other ones you listed aren't out yet... If you want to talk about the future, then you have to incorporate Gears of war 2, Gran Turismo 5, Little big planet, Killzone 2, MGS4 etc.. those seem much more fun than any of those PC games you mentioned. lol, Alan Wake? You Say? lol

lol, PC games are the same cost as Console games, you can hook a ps3 up to your HDMI monitor or the tv most people have anyways (you don't have to buy a new tv to play...like you make it sound), it comes with blu-ray, its a much cheaper option.

 

hehe....i see a lot of Console fanboyz here..
But i am amazed that none of the PC supporters mentioned about the main genre of games that separate PC gamers from consolers.....i.e MMORPG and RTS.

World of Warcraft alone has over 7 million active subscribers and the game itself has sold over 12 million copies....compare that to the current generation of consoles...and ONLY Halo 3 comes close with about 8 million copies sold....and no game on PS3 has crossed 5million mark.
Not to mention that Age of Conan just launched and Warhammer online is coming up.

Regarding price issue....i saw console supporters saying that it is cheap and is only about $350-450...but they are forgetting the cost of accessories and most of all.... cost of HDTV. I bought a PS3 last month and returned it within 2 weeks because i did not have a HDTV and could not afford to spend another $500 or so on one just to play a few games....so owning a console price for me = more than $1000. My $900 Laptop(in my sig) works just fine for gaming and i can do crap load of other stuff that console does not offer. If you want a little bit more power...get the Gateway FX for $1300 and you'll be set for a couple of years...and No i dont want a HDTV for watching cable/satellite TV....If i am ever gonna get one..it will be for games...!!!!!
These were the current prices...when the consoles were launched....regular size HDTV was running over $1000 and and the console was well above $500 making it $1500 investment. At that time...similarly equipped PC would have run you about the same amount of money.
I guess it comes down to personal choices and preferences...you can do a LAN party on PC almost just as easy as doing it on console.

Now it does suck that some games are console exclusive and/or come to PC too late coz consoles market are corporate owned...where as a PC market is free-for-all.....

 

lol so true.

 

lol, make love not warcraft bud. I like entertaining games/things, but not weird ass 'mmorpg's'.

It's more enjoyable to kick a buddies ass in Madden or Nba 2K8 imo.

 

hehe...I like it the old fashioned way...ever played Arenas and PvP in WoW???? much more satisfaction of kicking butts...

 

graphics on consoles are better when you would take a pc with exactly the same specs because as said before games are optemized for the consoles. But since all consoles now are +/-2 years old the current pc graphics are way supperior to the current consoles. Im a realy pc gamer but with less games coming to pc and more to the consoles and considering what it costs to keep a game pc uptodate im very sure i buy the one of the next gen consoles in like 2/3 years or something if they just would let you use a damn mouse how can one play a fps without a mouse >.<

 

They have mouse and keyboard capabilities, buts its not very convienent if your screen is far away, so:

FPS's, RTS = PC

Sports, Racing, Platform, 3rd Person Shooters, Everything else = Console.

 

I'm sure I read about the Civilisation series having one game ported exclusively to consoles, not sure if that game did very well though.

Grew up on PC gaming and will stay that way. Some games aren't well suited to playing on PCs (The console ports of Onimusha and Devil May Cry come to mind) but that can be circumvented somewhat with an additional gamepad purchase.

Really depends on what you grew up on and what you're comfortable with.

 

Ok, well, let's put it this way. It is most definitely true that not all console gamers are simpletons, but it is generally true that most simpletons prefer consoles. Console games target short attention spans, limited desire to engage intellectually, and immediate gratification. That tends to attract a certain clientel. That doesn't mean it is exclusively that clientel that plays on consoles, but it does generally mean that the classical "console kiddie" will bash PC games.

It is also obvious (if you follow the explosion in casual PC games, for example) that the market that console games target is generally larger than that which hardcore PC games target. If you want truely inovative games, or games that require more investment then the 20 minutes you are sitting in front of the console/computer, you are pretty much stuck with PC games. The last real deferred rewards, at all intellectual game that I can think of that came out for primarily console was Populous.

 

Makes me wonder what the category of gamers that plays Phantom Brave, Disgaea and similar games falls into. I don't recall seeing games of that particular subgenre on the PC or any similar ports.

Isn't the PC vs Console argument somewhat pointless from the start? You can rave and brag about your favourite gaming platform but ultimately whether it's gameplay or eyecandy or convenience or any other reason the other party is likely to stay indifferent to your arguments.

 

Yup. But I guess the hope is at least one observer will change thier minds. Also, it looks like the games you mentioned are short battle type games. That is immediate rewards.

 

I thought games like Phantom Brave require quite a bit of thinking ahead to make the game more manageable towards the end since clever character development is required. Other wise it's true that games that require quite a bit of patience to see through to the end (like Civilisation-type games) are quite the rarity on consoles these days. Wasn't Populous supposed to be a console game during the Sega Genesis era?

 

Populous was a console game. Nintendo. Good game too. Unfortunately, they stopped putting things like that out on consoles.

 

humm, I remember playing Populous on my PC long time ago. What a nice game it was!

 

I think it may have been cross platform. But I definitely played it on my brother's SNES.

 

i like both can we get along now? and yes pc have better graphics bluntly put, but who cares enjoy what u enjoy, if u like ur assassins creed at crazy resolutions on an expensive rig , good for u , if u think its a waste of money no one is forcing u , but please can u not get stressed just cos someone doesnt think like you

 

I think it's funny when you're trying to prove your intelligence, and you mis-use a word.

 

er, smarmy is a word, if that is what you are trying to point out.

 

But he literally just said he would challenge any of the most unpleasantly flattering or polite people on the forum. Mis-use is a better way to put it.

 

Smarmy can also mean Hypocritically, complacently, or effusively earnest; unctuous.

It's not an issue of smarts. I don't think that most PC gamers really care. Most probably game on consoles too. The few PC gamers you refer too are the ones who wasted money on $6000 gaming rigs and have to let everyone know that they are superior at gaming because of it.

 

Correct, but I thought he was aiming his sights on the intelligence of the TBS gamers.

 

Why is the Earth so much Bigger than the Sun?
People always say the Sun is bigger, put look down, you can't see the whole earth, but when you look up, ou can easily see the whole Sun.

St00pid Sun Fanbois !!

 

...but the sun is so much more bigger than earth...

 

if i brainwash you, clean out all the knowledge you know, then let you look at the sun, i believe you would say it's smaller than earth. we believe sun is bigger because we are told so, what if all those people are lying 1984 anyone?

 

Tbh I love games.. Just got in MGS4 into my office and cannot wait.. Both systems have plus points and low points... less hate.. more games hehe

 

Ok just been playing MGS4... and well... I think it sets a new definition of what just can be done with "OLD CONSOLE" hardware when a developer takes time to program the game specifically for it.... Wow is the only words for its.. like the first time you play half life 2 or crysis wow...

40" 1080p samsung (games in native 720p) and 5.1 Dolby Digital. WOW...

more cinematic than game tbh so cannot really compare to the shader heavy PC fps's

 

A satisfied console customer, but don't let that get to you if you're anti-console. PC users get their own pleasures from the games built for the platform and any forum user who thinks otherwise needs to seriously consider what the other side has to offer.

 

personally i would kill for mgs4 on the pc, or gran turismo 5, or GTAIV...

hopefully i'll get 2/3. probably gt5 and gtaiv....

mgs4 might happen eventually.

 

totally agree with you there.. When i built my HL2 rig it was more special because I built it. As I said.. Both have pros and cons!

oh and masterchef... A little bit of developer humor.. Little note flashes up when installing MGS..

Please note.. This game is developed exclusivly for PS3 hehe

Sure GTA4 will have pc release though and all the better for it!