Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

Buying hardware on credit cards and paying it off usually leads to resentment. Especially when it starts aging. I learnt my lesson along time ago too.
I won't even buy cars on loans either. If I can't afford it, then I'll get it when I can or when it's second hand and affordable.

 

Yeah I learned the hard way too. I can't say I haven't taken 2-3 months to pay off something but beyond that forget it. Car loan I get it. My car is 8 years old now, 110k miles, and having some annoying issues, but still drives fine. But a couple grand to fix it up and it should get me through another year. Cheaper than any car loan for anything as reliable.

 

Me too (almost). I still have $1500~ on my Dell Preferred Account from when I bought a $5k Alienware M18x R2 back in 2012 or 2013.

At least I'm paying off the interest. I plan to wipe it out this summer, though.

 

pretty much the reason why i'm going to leave the top of the line mobile laptops and get a desktop. cheaper, and upgrading is easier and cheaper. if i had a desktop, for the same price i could be saying '' 980m, or titan x?'' for 1000 dollars lol. next laptop after desktop will probably be a mid range super thin gaming laptop for travel purposes. no 1080m. maybe a 1070m or 1060m. depending on money then. still super broke lol

 

Good stuff. I got into the very bad habit of buying stuff on credit at the age of 10 rofl. We had a pretty nice local shop owner who let kids he trusted pay things off over several months since he understood weekly pocket money was chump change. No interest charged either. But of course this was way back in the early 2000s and times were different (I was also in HK at the time).

I've since wised up and never buy anything on credit unless it's a car. But likewise, even then I sit down and crunch the numbers and see if it makes more sense to just pay it off in cash. (I bought my last Corolla in cash because there were some cash incentives, and there wasn't a 0% APR financing option)

 

Yay, more hype! Apparently the first of the Pascal cards (manufacturing samples) have left production and are in testing.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...erent-graphics-cards-currently-in-testing.htm

http://wccftech.com/four-nvidia-pascal-graphics-cards-spotted/

 

now were talking

edit: ok, um....how does one go from some random serial number + "computer graphics card" in that shipment manifest to those listings being pascal gpus?

 

Not sure. My guess is that it's entirely speculative based on what we've previously seen: "I've never seen this before, so it must be Pascal!"

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-graphics-chip-jm-601-gpu-spotted/

You can do some digging to see how accurate they were to predicting shipment from Maxwell.

 

As you said before, people reads too much into these.

 

I think at this point people are quite literally grasping at straws any random bit of new information because...

 

I think the lack of news is telling.. all isn't rosey in Pascal-land.

 

Finally someone else says it...

Although something is coming that can take on P11. +/-7.2%

 

wow! that tease tho

 

The amount of negativity in this thread is overwhelming. Ya'll sound so excited.

 

It is what it is though. Being positive or negative won't change that there's no creditable news and zero details. Maybe time to get your rosary beads out

 

hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

 

Loss of hope is the first step on the road to death! (We all know we're being melodramatic here!)

 

And death is the first step on the road to rebirth!

...wait did I do it right

 

lol, turning into a philosophical thread here

 

I hope pascal is a huge flop and is super hot and draws tons of power and that AMD is the opposite though.

It's not that I want Pascal to fail in itself... but rather I want nVidia to be beaten into a state where they can't get by on bullcrap propaganda to sell cards, and even the general public knows it's "AMD time".

I like when nVidia cards work. I have had exceedingly few issues with my 280M for the entire time of its ownership. I required fixed vBIOSes for my 780Ms (which is unacceptable, make no mistake), but otherwise have had very few issues with them in itself (though I *HAVE* had... and most of them are SLI-centric, which I will chalk up to multi-GPU crap rather than the cards themselves). I even prefer them to AMD, and I always have, because of their drivers and the features in them (and for no other reason... I can't even consider multi-GPU AMD because it doesn't work in windowed modes, which would put me into a single-GPU scenario 95% of the time I game).

But 800M and 900M is some kind of joke; their drivers for all of 2015 are a bigger joke, and the crap they peddled as the GTX 970 which they could fix tomorrow via driver updates is the biggest joke of all. When the winning company does its best to be anti-consumer, nobody wins, even though there are seas of idiots who'll happily ignorantly claim that things are fine. nVidia can make some really good stuff... if they have the competition. So yeah, I hope that Pascal is a full on flop for them, because they need to be put into their place and actually do something for consumers besides churning out propaganda.

 

Wow, are you me? You are literally the only other person I know who WANTS nVidia to flop so that AMD can catch up.

 

I frankly dont care. I will be purchasing from whoever have the superior product. I have no loyalties from either side and I heard enough horror stories about both that it doesnt matter anymore.

 

Me third actually.

And if rumors are true that Pascal is nothing more than Maxwell on 16nm FF+ (20nm really if you ignore TSMC's marketing gimmick), then yeah, I can see how Pascal could be hot and power hungry. I mean christ, just look at how hot GM200 runs. You really think going to a smaller process, cramming in 2x the transistors, while at the same time shrinking the die size is going to make things better? Well I got two words for you: thermal density. And it's a biatch.

That said nVidia could release 480 2.0 and the idiots would still lap it up. Though I'd definitely take a Pascal Titan for $500 (which nVidia will invariably have to price it at if AMD pulls an HD 4870 level of upset )

 

I'd love to see Nvidia eat dirt for a while. They deserve it.

Maxwell generation they gave us clockblocking, rubbish SLI, gimped cards, goofy drivers, tessellation...yeah we go lots of that specially for AMD and 7xx too , and there's more unethical business practices to come - step right up, log into NE for your new drivers folks.

I sold my 980 SLI for a single 980ti they sucked so bad for input lag, frame pacing and scaling. To be clear it wasn't like this with Kepler.

Let's not forget their constant lack of timely profiles for games they sponsor - I mean are they seriously having a joke or what?! Who gets away with that?

The thing is, I loved SLI , so believe me when I tell you it sucked lemons.

I'm happy to pick up an AMD flagship if they release killer card. It would be well deserved.

 

No you're absolutely correct. I loved my 780M SLI Clevo to death, but that's only because 2013-2014 was the golden years of SLI. After Maxwell launched SLI support (just in general, don't even get me started on nVidia "forgetting" to optimize for Kepler) took a huge dump and never recovered. 2015 has been an especially bad year for SLI, and I'm glad I dumped my gimped 3.5GB 970 SLI setup while they were still worth something.

 

Suitable, no?

 

Instead of Pascal failing I would rather AMD manages to release a competitive product.

One can dream.

 

I don't want "nVidia to flop so that AMD can catch up". I want "nVidia to flop so that AMD can overtake them". nVidia has proven that they can't make anything good for a consumer if they're not fighting for market share. I figure if they get beaten under 50%, they'll make bloody well sure their drivers get FIXED and Volta is amazing.

I want them to flop so that they fix themselves. And possibly get somebody with some morals at the top (not that that'll ever happen). Of course, if AMD makes powerful, cool and functional cards and they manage to make multi-GPU work in windowed modes, then hey. I'll grab those for my next machine.

Yup! I loved multi-GPU and I still do, but to be absolutely honest, single strongest card is just better. Especially for a variety gamer. The thing is I still want multi-GPU. I want that when I can get the benefit, it works. But I still want enough power should I have to use single GPU. If people optimized their games properly, a single 780M would be enough for every game on the market that ever touches consoles. But it isn't, and that just sucks. I still say it, I'll max Unreal Tournament 4 and get 90+fps, averaging about 100fps in gameplay. Let's put my minimum at 80fps. Street Fighter 5? I drop below 60fps maxing that. EXPLAIN. You can't. But this is what we have to deal with, and why SLI should be freaking working. But nah.

I hope Amazon's "Lumberyard" turns out to be good. It's 100% free no questions asked, and uses Cryengine elements, and is designed to support multiple GPUs too. So it should produce some wonderful games.

 

*koff**koff*hairworks*koff**koff*

 

99% certain I've said this before, but I'd also like to see AMD take the reins for a while even though it probably won't happen. They're treading in some deep waters at the moment. NVIDIA is just cruising on by without a care in the world, and it's destroying the market.

"NVIDIA Pascal due between May and June; AMD Polaris due Q3" - Source

Go!

 

I want a Unicorn.


Back on topic, Some rumors about release date:
http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read...july-with-amd-polaris-gpus-expected-q3/037923

few qoutes from article:

 

Almost certain that "early April" rumor was later "confirmed" by another rumor to be a Tesla card.

 

Slide suggests GP100 could have 2-3 times the computing power of GTX Titan:

https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.3dcenter.org/news/nvidias-gp100-chip-mit-4-tflops-dp-und-12-tflops-sp-rechenleistung-geplant&edit-text=

Edit: Ok so this was from June 2015..

 

It's not free. You have to use Amazon Web Services, Amazon is not losing money. This includes multi-player services.

 

From their FAQ I understand it this way:
You don't pay them anything if you release a single player or local multiplayer game. Or if you host multiplayer on your own servers (as in you dont rent other servers services that are like AWS.)

 

If something from a corporation is ever 'free', then you're the product.

 

Just like how Windows 10 is free amirite

 

They don't even give a labrat's burnt rear about piracy either, since they'll just make up the money by selling the pirates' data.

Arrrrre ya ready to get watched, kids?

Aye, aye, Microsoft!

 

In the case of a video game engine... that's a product I'm willing to be, for now. It's not like it's an operating system.

 

Hey folks, I've been slacking in terms of keeping up to date on PC gaming news lately. When are Pascal laptops expected to launch according to latest rumours and leaks? Is it Q2 or Q3?

 

Q3/Q4 most probably, some folks are reporting that pascal is having issues with cooling. So that could delay it even beyond 2016.
But some people are expecting some news (maybe a partial launch) in march during GPU Technology Conference or in April during GPU Technology Conference.
On the other side, AMD has made a splash with polaris in earlier this year during GPU Technology Conference. They have displayed a polaris 10 GPU which competes with the likes of GTX 950 but consumes much less power. They also showed higher end polaris 11 to journalists. They are expected to release it by "back to school" season.

 

Late Q2 is the earliest we would hope to see mobile. Desktop is supposed to launch as early as April (Titan) and the rest at Computex. I don't really care much anymore but it would be nice to see them launch this summer before school starts again in August.

All rumors and speculation so far. No legit leaks from China, either.

 

My current predictions...

Tesla replacement in July... With closed loop liquid cooling... Highest clock rates squeezed out of GP100, complete with nVLink.

GP106 in Q3/Q4 as a stopgap while they do another respin on GP104... Possibly two...

GP106 will have a mobile part that beats 980M by roughly 10%

There is no GP104 mobile GPU until April/May 2017 but there will be a GP104 desktop card around October of this year that will also used a CLC solution. It will officially make the 780 Ti obsolete under any load - note that the 780 Ti only loses to the 970 in some games and apps that utilize high tesselation... And even trades blows with the 980 again since the 353 series of drivers.

These are just predictions. Take what you will from them.

I also do not believe nVidia will have enough GP100 chips leftover to make a consumer card under the 1500 dollar range before Computex next year...

 

So what you are saying is I better hope the AMD Polaris 11 is decent, makes it to mobile, and is equal to the Nano in performance (+/- 10) at 100 watts.

 

Unless you want to wait a year... Basically. AMD is ahead of the curve... If you do the math, based on how a Nano works, AMD could stuff a Nano into MXM right now, they'd just have to use a riser board with minimum clearance to fix the mounting problem that would normally break MXM. Think about the thickness of the screws... They could sandwich a board underneath that's screwed in properly then use solder to connect the two boards... It would mean certain companies would have to actually make flat heatsinks to deal with HBM heat but it's not impossible... If Clevo can stick a 6700K in a machine running side by side with a desktop class GTX 980, they could easily handle a stacked dummy board or similar solution and a Nano would be no problem with that cooling system...

 

if anyone can do it, its definitely clevo

btw, can totally live with those predictions of yours, looks like im reaaaally gonna get my money's worth outta my dark knight

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I'd be shocked if Clevo took the risk...