Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

Okay in that Kyle's video the EVGA chassis (4:30) showcased 4x EVGA Hybrids right and an SLI connector, so are they linked in 4x or are they 980's ?

 

AMD Computex 2016
Previously Live, recorded playback, Starts @ 15:57

 

Tomorrow, NVIDIA's gonna be like, "Here's the 1080M! It's just as powerful as the desktop GTX 1080. And by that we mean on paper (in our graphs)."

Same sh**, different day.

 

Ugh come on AMD, please tell me you have something more than buy 2 of our $200 GPUs.

 

Well polaris was a disappointment.

 

So, they have a GPU to fight with 970 and 980. Great timing! Total disappointment.
Again we will have to pay heavy suitcase filled with money for 1080M...

 

Lisa mentioned there is a 100-300 dollar range for Polaris at the end so maybe that's not all.

However, showing 2x480 only at 51% utilization means that drivers aren't ready yet. With the 1080 at 98.7%, it seems like the 480 could actually come close to the 1080 as drivers mature...... In about 3 years, that is.

 

Because people buy cards for performances 3 years down the road.

 

If you listen to the AMD camp, they certainly do. "AMD performance always improves over time"

 

I switch cards almost on a yearly basis. I really dont care...

 

I haven't watched any vidoes yet but from what I've read they'll have a $200 GPU about 80% the performance of the 980ti. If that's true that's pretty damn good.

 

In mobile, with appropriate TDP reduction, the AMD GPU will probably be between 980m and 980, while the 1080m will be a 30% faster than 980. Thought the AMD card should cost much less.

I think a lot of folk here had predicted this level of performance. AMD should simply keep the same names and specs for their mobile counterparts and just roll with it.

I wonder about the higher end GPUs they didn't mention. Maybe their 300dlrs+ premium GPU will reach 1070. So polaris in the end is a remake of their current GPU portfolio performance at a lower price and TDP.

 

ASUS GTX 1080 Strix Hands-On: 8+2 VRM, Case Fan Controls | Computex
By Steve Burke Published May 31, 2016 at 1:35 am

ASUS Strix GTX 1080 at Computex - 8+2 VRM
Published on May 31, 2016
"This is the new ASUS Strix GTX 1080, as shown at Computex 2016. Features +1900MHz pre-OC, 8+2-phase power design, and other changes vs. reference."

 

Exclusive: New MSI 1080 Uses Custom VBIOS, PCB, & 10-Phase VRM
By Steve Burke Published May 30, 2016 at 4:00 am

Live Overclocking of MSI GTX 1080 at Computex
Published on Jun 1, 2016
"We attempted to overclock the GTX 1080 Twin Frozr Z card live from the show floor of Computex. Nothing particularly exciting, but a fun experiment. Not shown here, we did overvolt it -- stability wasn't improved."

 

So here it comes againg, very poor overclocking past 2Ghz core, sadly... Maxwell were much better overclockers. We'll see how 1070 non-ref performs. A lot of reviewers could hit 9Ghz stable on memory and the same 2Ghz mark on the core, while to stock clocks are lower then on 1080.

 

The 1070 OC'ing I posted earlier in this thread shows about 10% OC, so a bit less than the 1080.

We can revel in the joy from knowing we don't need to spend a ton of $ on cards to hit the 2050mhz sweet spot.

We can focus on the lower priced boards that hit 2050mhz, and save some $ for other build components

 

GTX 1080 Xtreme & G1 Gaming 1080 from Gigabyte
Gigabyte @ Computex - new motherboards, new GTX 1080 GPUs and some epic custom PC builds.
4:00 for the 1080 G1 and 4:57 for the 1080 Extreme Gaming

 

asus rog gtx 1080 strix unboxing & firestrike extreme run

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52317...cks-nvidias-mobile-pascal-gpus-sli/index.html

Sounds interesting if true.

 

"Surpassing 21000 in 3D mark 11" is less than that asus 980 sli laptop.


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You know what? When you're paying for a GPU actually you pay for both software & hardware. Last time I owned AMD card was one from 5000 series, drivers weren't that stable. Still today AMD Drivers aren't as stable as Nvidia's. Also with new game releases, AMD drivers come late.
But after all RX 480 can have a great market because it's summer time and many people are going to upgrade their PC and Nvidia has nothing new to offer in 200$ price range.

 

I am guessing it's under NDA and they have to have it under existing mobile cards until it leaks or is announced.

 

Now NVIDIA can move on the mobile market. Can't wait!

Shame AMD dropped the ball, again. But hey, I didn't expect much else. Just hoped for it.

 

How did AMD drop the ball? They never said they were committed to moving the needle on the bleeding edge, but that they were moving the mainstream forward. If they can have something that is ~GTX 980M power for 200 dollars in mobile, that's a major win. Nvidia is charging us way more than that.

 

In my opinion, they dropped the ball because they are not giving suitable competition for NVIDIA to encourage further innovation in the market as NVIDIA's main competitor. They're encouraging re-branding by simply not providing.

Nothing new, though. No expectations, no disappointments.

 

Not to mention that desktop pricing will never pan out for a mobile card. If AMD MXM cards come they will undoubtedly be 500+

 

I am gonna call it at 600USD. Exact pricing as 980m.

 

That's only the pricing for a new machine. Card only is upwards of 700.

 

You're drinking the Jonestown Kool-aid if you think that's true. nVidia's drivers have been nothing short of cancer for the past 2 years (clock block, EDID corruption, gimped Fermi/Kepler, random card bricking), while AMD has made great strides in performance.

 

AMD's own presentation highlighted how far behind their developers are in utilizing Polaris vs nVidia. They damned themselves in their own conference... In a title optimized for AMD no less!

 

What u rolling at?

 

Literally nothing

 

i will be really disappointed if the 1080m compete only with a 980.

 

It makes sense to me, why would MSI be secretive about the 980 SLI in the vortex, it was released months ago using MXM 980's. Either it's Pascal or a CF Polaris 10, only things that makes any sense.

 

There's no way a 1080M is less powerful than a 980, even if it still has GDDR5. Just think about it, core wise:

The 1070 has 1920 cores, GDDR5, and is clocked fairly high but outperforms a Titan X. The 980M has 1536 cores, so the 1080M will likely have 1536 - 1920 cores.

Always has been the same trend, fellas. Stop worrying!

 

I'm expecting 980 or slightly above 980 performance with reduced TDP for the 1080M

 

I used Nvidia cards for 5 years and AMD Cards for 3 years. I'm by no means GPU overclocker so sorry if wasn't aware of some of problems you mentioned. But at least for me, not a single game crashed because of Graphics driver issues when I was running Nvidia card.

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http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-and-1080-coming-to-gaming-notebooks/

 

So no "M"- versions anymore! Interesting....

 

They aren't going to drop the entire M line, I want whatever they're smoking. While undoubtedly there will be full 1080 and possibly 1070 products, there are too many notebooks that don't have the ability to handle full desktop cores - basically 99% of laptops sold.

 

I wonder, the new Asus GPU variants look pretty attractive.

Is it okay to buy Asus nVidia GPUs ?

Also, for everyone wondering, I can guarantee with a 99% certainty that nVidia and AMD do communicate a lot, and both know about each other's plans, and they sync up to do things such that both have gains where they can do best. This does not mean that they know what exactly each is building, but they have an idea about the performance and price the other is going for, it only makes sense, we are living in the age of internets, it is possible to breach a security easily, if they wanted, they could get the blueprints out of anything that is connected to internet.

The point is that we shouldn't expect with only two major companies for that much competition. It is a game for them, being only 2.

Now, if it were an industry where there is real competition, that would be funny to watch.

 

I recommend against it.

 

MSI aren't being secretive, bored booth workers are having fun with the reporter.

MSI aren't going to sneak release Pascal through innuendo in an info placard that clearly states latest=current generation.

English as a second/third language can bring about word substitution that can be taken different ways.

MSI aren't going to ruin the release of a high end product by suggesting it's going to be releasing a model with a better GPU than the latest generation GPU currently shipping.

These guys get tired of people asking daily "when is pascal" releasing. So they had a little fun with the reporter.

If it does happen, great, otherwise relax, mobile pascal for laptops is gonna be as clearly released as desktop was.

You won't need to read between the lines on an info placard buried in a trade booth.

 

I'm really butthurt about this. My next laptop is part of the 99% then. No way a non "m" version is in a 14" whilst a 1070m is nice. If any of you are using 1080s and 1070s the real deal I'll be very jealous. I'll already feel like it's last gen vs new gen and in way behind lol. I already feel behind with a 960m and its current lol


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An awful a lot of attention is placed on the trash can PC.

 

Unfortunately small laptops make sacrifices. One of those sacrifices tends to be majorly in the graphics arena.

Until the trend of thinner, lighter, and longer battery life demand ends (which it most likely will not) or we finally get to a point where alternatives to silicon become a reality in more than just the lab. At the rate we are going, tech will be almost at a total standstill in the not too distant future. We are already in the land of massively diminishing returns in our quest for smaller and "more efficient" semiconductors and it would appear that GPUs have finally started to hit that wall as well.

 

I wonder if it has to do with the whole "closing the performance gap" they started with maxwell, where a 980M was 80% of a desktop 980. Maybe with pascal that gap is finally shut and they can call them one and the same?

 

Could be. Not my idea of close though using trimmed down desktops. And saying "the gap is closed" because if you need a big laptop to run equal to a desktop then it's just the same thing in another format.
I'll take that with m variants. With all this hbm2. It could in theory happy. But it won't. Not for now. I think it be much closer to each other in Volta. But if the 1080m is gddrx5 then we are on track. If not. Still Volta lol.


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Thermal/power is a big concern.