Pascal: What do we know? Discussion, Latest News & Updates: 1000M Series GPU's

I've talked with many people in this community who would only approach an MSI or Clevo laptop. I myself had another before this, and it lasted me as much as it should have and I only swapped to keep up with the graphics. My reasoning for not picking up the P870DM was the lack of assurances and the overall "going through a reseller" thing for every problem etc. Plus in my country there was not one.

I've never heard of any of their laptops actually exploding tho

It's just this guarantee will surely snap a fair amount of customers from Clevo, whose machines I also completely respect

 

Wish I may.

Even considering it right now, especially as regardless of what I buy, I'm going to need a secondary big display. Cannot have 4k on 17" and call it a day, will probably need at least 24" - 31" to properly use 4K for programming.

A bit in a similar situation. I need to move between my hometown and the town I work in once in one-two weeks. The whole process is a 300KM route, made with bus, so if I cannot take at least a desktop in a back pack, it's futile.

Them exploding is just a hypothesis. MSI engineers are good, there;s no doubt about it.

It's just that the whole way they managed it is questionable. While I do trust their work, the battery will degrade over time. And a MSI machine with the exact same specs is more expensive than the others...

 

Yeah I agree on the pricing. If I had local clevo support and the whole resellers thing wasn't complicated (in the sense that everyone had a disadvantage), I surely would have considered it

 

What do you mean by that, 2 models only ? Does that mean this Pascal is limited to Skylake only ?
Besides that the new Pascal MXM MSI had in their machine is not 3.0b standard, it's a custom MXM and that sucks, only MSI. That's why I hope Clevo does make it since there are no major redesigns at this point (At Computex'16 the machine was 870DM iirc), no Kabylake, thus a 3.0b standard to support the 77xZM / DM, 870DM, 775DM. Maybe older Alienwares if lucky.

Also no point in buying the custom MXM given better than BGA & I'm not going to be a slave, Then Desktop is the key to salvation

 

I wonder if Clevo will ship most machines with the switch to block nVidia overclocking in the BIOS enabled.

 

Looks like Clevo machines with mobile 1080 should be here, at least in USA, in early September... all I can say.

 

Yeah Sager resellers should have them in customer hands no later than early October is what I've heard.

I don't know if I would recommend rushing out to get one right away though. Or I'd at least get it from a Prema partner. I wouldn't put it past nVidia to pull some shenanigans...

 

sure? I can wait till mid october. What about pre orders? When is it starting? I know back to school period and period before Christmas and new year are the important times

 

I should have one in my lap by late August, early September if all goes well. I wasn't expecting them until at least October. Still no word on 1060 or 1070 yet from Clevo.

 

That promise really factored into my GT72 purchase.

We riot if they don't come through on it.

Good thing, the GT72 doesn't use Hybrid Power. Only the GE series has it enabled.

 

according to msi themselves, it's only enabled for 1 model

https://www.msi.com/faq/nb-684.html

GT72 2PC

 

As someone who is a subohm vaper, I can tell you that as long as MSI isn't exceeding the max continuous discharge rate of the lithium ion cells, there is basically no danger of explosion. Batteries that explode tend explode because one or more cells went over the CDR for too long and went into thermal runaway. These systems are built with failsafes to make sure they don't exceed the rated CDR just like regulated vape mods have. It shortens the life of the battery but it won't do much else unless there is a defective cell in which case the battery would eventually explode anyway.

 

but how about if we don't want to sacrifice battery and still get a good performing machine?

I guess msi doesn't really care about that aspect :|


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@Ashtrix - the 1080 ASUS XOC bios doesn't really improve performance other than unlocking the power limit, even then, users have reported getting lower performance due to using a non ref bios with a ref pcb
you might want to use the asus xoc bios on the asus 1080, not the 1080FE

 

I'm not really that familiar with MSI's offerings because I just think they're too expensive but it seems to me from what I've seen that they do offer full power models that don't use this power limit. My guess is that they did it so that it wouldn't sacrifice performance for portability. My 330W brick for my P377SM-A is over twice as thick as the old Alienware M17x 240W brick and definitely weighs more than twice as much.



Not everyone wants to carry around a huge system with a huge brick as well.

 

At least we have that.

It won't explode

Still. . .

The main reason I avoid Acer is due to their freaking optimus tech even in 980m laptops. MSI due to their hybrid power. Alienware... wait, alienware does not even have a laptop with 980 notebook inside from what I know?

 

acer doesn't have optimus in their laptop, at least for the predator lines

 

They do.

Sadly...

The Nvidia GeForce GTX 970M is a high-end GPU from the current Maxwell generation. The GM 204 chip runs with a core clock of up to 1038 MHz (GPU-Boost), and the 3 GB GDDR5-VRAM (192-bit interface) is effectively clocked at 5,000 MHz. However, it is only the "smaller" version of the GTX 970M, because there is also a model with 6 GB RAM. Simple tasks like office, web and video applications can be handled by the integrated Intel HD Graphics 530. Thanks to the Optimus technology, the system will automatically select the right GPU, which worked reliably during our review.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Predator-17-G9-791-Notebook-Review.158933.0.html

Acer Predator 17 G9-791-75PV
Processor
Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6 GHz ( Intel Core i7)
Graphics adapter
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M - 3072 MB, Core: 924 MHz, Memory: 2500 MHz, GDDR5, ForceWare 354.00, Optimus

 

rip

at least the advantage of intel gpu is that you can natively output 10-bit opengl to photoshop and video editing (cmiiw), since nvidia cripples the geforce card color output

 

We really live in a world where we need to chose between two evils, don't we?

I really need that 10 bit output. But what am I going to do with it without processing power? Photoshop won't work without nvidia GPU on 8k res images. At least won't work well.

 

from what I understand, the nvidia gpu is only used for calculation, but as to how it would work on photoshop, idk

maybe if we get RX480M it'll be good, P870DM with dual Polaris 10 chip. Because iirc even amd consumer cards can output 10 bit opengl

 

Get a single bunk bed. Use the space underneath as a desk area to get a pc and monitor.
Think of all that extra space and power...you know it makes sense!


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http://videocardz.com/62086/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-rumors-part-5-full-specs-2-0-ghz-overclocking

 

It doesn't seem to wow much.

It is a lot stronger than the past GTX X60 series though.

 

My Titan x's are selling fantastically on eBay they are both up to 800 with 2 days left I'm paying for my 1080s and a fancy dinner

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My recommendation to anyone selling their goods on ebay, take a lesson from booksellers and when you take a picture of your card make it look sexy

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I will have at least one 1080 for sale soon. possibly 2.

 

THIS. Helps a lot! Most people just take phone camera pictures and dont really put thought into it.

 

Gotcha, no duckfaces for my 970!

 

Did you say sexy?
Show me the link. I'm intrigued lol


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+1

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No pr0n is allowed on NBR .

 

He surely meant somethin' like this:

Spoiler: How to present Nvidia products - PEGI 18

äh...., I meant this one:

Spoiler: Nvidia - U wanna be seksi?

 

He made that too confusing, games are already working with 2 way 1080 SLI, which is all that will fit in a laptop anyway.

 

Whoah whoah, you better tag that post NSFW, because kids might be reading this forum!

 

LOL, it's why I hate Nvidia. They had a backlash about no 3-4-way SLI and they sent BS pile named "Enthusiast's Key 3-4-Way SLI Support" and... that's it. Nobody at Nvidia even planned to actually doing this.
Exact same way with SLI + DSR + GSYNC where you couldn't even make 3 of this work together for half a year and perhaps longer PLUS MFAA didn't work on all games. Nvidia GTX 970 owners were like "HEY, NVIDIA, BRING ME WHAT YOU PROMISED AND STILL NOT PROVIDED FOR N MONTHS ALREADY!"

 

Nobody needs 4 1080's to play a game. People need to adjust priorities, learn to save and invest in retirement.

 

Blasphemy. Its 4 x 1080's or nothing.
While im at it, let me save some money on the chasis and the PSU. #savingmuney4dafuture




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How much does 4 1080s cost? I'll put that in my retirement funds or just in my disposal cash account. When the right laptop comes around. I might go nuts.


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Right now it's about $3200. GPU's only.

 

But you forgot benching

 

Well put on top of that the kind of mobo required to run 4 way sli and you're at 4k$ pretty much

 

To be fair. No one knows hyperthetical person's finical situation. They might already have money squared away for retirement...Or even already be retired.

They should be free to spend their money however they want without jealous judgement.

 

Well. I can create games people play with just one GPU, even something less powerful than a GTX 1080, having 4 is overkill, even for 4K. Now, someone might want 3display setup all running on 4k, and for that they might need 4 1080s. But still

I think that it would be lovely to have a motherboard supporting a 4 way 1080, and run them just for the sake of doing it.

Now, for deep learning, we might need something like 4x1080, even more, depending on the task we need to do. Wanted to get into deep learning recently, but it's very very costly to construct a software that actually learns. Costly as it may be, it's something that needs to be done.

 

Jealous judgement? How small-minded. Being a wasteful being, in any shape or form, is not good for anyone or anything. Has nothing to do with jealousy.

Put more into the world than you take out.

 

That is not an argument for those who wanted it. And Nvidia's best effort is to keep those who are ready to pay 4 x GTX even if it's low level lie which may pass for only short-time period.

 

I never agreed with their decision to remove the ability to. Don't take my words out of context.

 

I don't understand why they don't implement SLI so that each GPU can drive one monitor and only that portion of the scene. So you could have a three monitor setup and each display have it's own GPU with each only displaying 1/3 of the scene. Rather than having all three rendering all the same stuff all the time.

 

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its obsolete lol

 

How is it expensive? Theano, TF, etc. are all free. Since I don't think you're going to build your own dataset, you're going to be using one of many publically-available datasets. The only real cost is hardware, which I assume you already have as a game developer, and your own time.