Pidge from Nvidia has asked that user experiencing problems with the 880m list them here..

yup. i cant even update geforce experience or use OBS unless im plugged in. driver crashes when on battery

 

Yep a polished turd is still a turd.

 

Not sure what this has to do with ASIC quality, sounds more like a modded vBIOS that's preventing GPU from downclocking/downvolting properly on battery or a driver bug

 

That's the modded vBios not underclocking properly

 

The higher the number, the higher clocks per voltage... But the higher likelihood of electron leakage. As long as it's not hitting the throttle... Its no matter. At 83 percent... Probably runs hot. But those cards are Kepler, they're refined and not sensitive. Don't push them past 90 and they should be fine... 87 under load is Normal for Clevo, I'm mobile so I have no idea what machine you have. But Kepler is a resilient chip. It is built for being pushed. As long as you are 90 or under, I wouldn't worry.

As for the crashes... Remove shadowplay... It won't let the hacked vbios drop clocks... Or go back to stock. There isn't another fix.

 

gaming works, just not a few other apps. and i always game with vsync to help with temps. crysis 3 maxed out will make it go to 93 and throttle lol. no overclocking.

side note, anyway to run all flash player applications with the gpu? OBS can run from the gpu and not the cpu, but anything with flash player causes my cpu to skyrocket lol.

 

So guys, where is Pidge?

 

Working for AMD

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/runs away/

 

He might as well be. Can't say he's helped Nvidia customers a great deal around here.

 

These 2 880ms I have are still hurting but nvidia promised a fix was coming so I will continue to wait. Nvidia makes good on their promises

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Bumpgate and the 3.5GB vram on my 970 wholeheartedly disagrees with you.

"makes good on promises" lol in that regard nVidia is even worse than AMD

 

When did Nvidia promise a fix?

 

Are you serious?

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Yeah, was anything put into writing and signed off on. Giving your word is all fine and dandy but a handshake agreement is not legally binding.

 

Well I'm not talking legally binding here

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Well I hate to burst your bubble but it's a fool's hope putting your faith in a gentleman's agreement (which I haven't seen from ManuelG/other Nvidia rep unless you'd care to link me to it)

 

Unfortunately for them that's where I put my cash

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If you really do put your money where your mouth is since I see you've bought many Nvidia products since the AW18 880M SLI, but I think Nvidia will be fine without your business for a while

 

I don't know about you but as long as I feel fine about what I'm doing my outlook on life is improved

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lol goddamn

Yes Pidge/ManuelG made a promise, but considering it's been over a year and nothing has came of it, I'm gonna call that an empty promise at best.

 

Yeah... he did give his word he would get to the bottom of it. He went as far to acknowledge there was a problem with it. It's either in this or the Nvidia Geforce thread relating to this. S̶l̶i̶m̶e̶y̶ ̶G̶ Manual G probably put his foot in it as far as Nvidia corp are concerned. Trying to be helpful is forbidden once the slightest hint of liability is present. Why do you he acted a coward douche and never got back?
All they'll do is further distance themselves from the problem.

 

Honestly I have plug-ins set to on demand in Chrome because of that very issue with flash. Even with hardware acceleration turned on, it shoots the CPU through the roof worse than most of my games even do. I only use flash for very specific situations. Flash is going to be killed soon.

 

A pathetic as the 880m situation is and what that says about Nvidia. What does it say about all of us affected that don't do anything about it. It's called a class action and they have left themselves wide open for it based on this disaster they sold all of us knowing the issues existed. I have spoken to 1 attorney so far and plan on running it by another that I know. But honestly haven't seen anyone else willing to do anything but sit around and complain about it. That's the reason companies, gov't, and anyone else you can think of get away with all they get away with, cause noone does a damn thing about anything anymore.

 

I get that your cause is noble but a class action for video cards that were distributed among a handful of all laptop sales is a fool's errand. NVidia knows this. If you really think nVidia hasn't already done a risk analysis for the possibility or probability of a successful lawsuit over the cards, you are sadly mistaken. Right around the time that the 880M blew up in everyone's faces, nVidia hired another risk analyst. They are safe and there is nothing we can do but fight the manufacturer of the machine like I did with Sager. Trust me, it was a fight. If you want to do a class action and succeed in getting it started, I will sign as I've had 4 880Ms and they all ended in me having downtime sending my machine back.

 

not that I really like being called a fool but I hear ya . I go back and forth with it honestly. Days where I am realm angry and disgusted about it and want to make them actually be held accountable for what the did. Then days where I kind of shrug it off and figure I will just deal with it until I decide to move on. Having said that, man I am so sick of no one ever being held accountable for their actions or criminality. In this case, I truly believe what they did with the 880 was and is criminal, not just incompetence. And I think the 970 memory situation and then blaming overclocking on a "bug" that apparently has existed for 10 years or so just plain dirty. For those reasons, I have not let go of the idea of pursuing it further. Having a couple conversations with legal won't hurt. We will see.

 

If you're going up against a multi-billion dollar corporation like nVidia, they'll win just by defaulting to war of attrition. I mean I work at a large cap pharma, and the annual budget for our legal department makes all the research departments very envious lol.

 

So it's been almost a year since the last post. Any word from Pidge? I just spent the last few days reading through this thread hoping there was a solution buried in it somewhere, although it looks like the solution wound up being "buy 980M if you can't get a warranty swap." The last posts from any of you, you were still waiting to see if you could. How did that work out? Did anyone get upgraded to a 970M or 980M under warranty? If so, how did those work out? What were the problems with any of those? My computer is just the AW 17 (Signature), with a single card, but I'd like to get as much info as possible before making any further decisions. I was hoodwinked by the 8GB VRAM when I was choosing my computer, although the biggest factor was not getting the newest AW where the GPU and CPU are soldered to the Motherboard and unchangeable.

I've had Ethrem's problem with the disappearing GPU three times with the same one, now. It seems to me to be temperature related: as soon as it hits 94 C, the card "disappears" only to "reappear" a few hours later (I had to wait a whole day, the first time), and continue performing normally.

Also, room temp seems to make a big difference on computer performance, and whether the room is 65 F, 75 F, or 85 F, so I'm curious to know what the room temps were during all of your recorded and charted tests all through this thread, not that anybody remembers after two years.

 

Hey there. So if I were you I would call Dell as it seems you have a serious temperature problem. I ended up selling mine and getting a new 18 with 980's but when I had the 880's, I never saw temps like that. I don't think I ever saw over 85 or so. Your card is burning up. Call the and see what they will do.

As far as the performance, I was able to stop most of my throttling eventually by setting everything to max performance in NVIDIA control panel under global, then under each program and also system power profile. However with your temps, don't even attempt that or you AW will burst into flames. I was also using a specific stock driver that made a big difference but I cannot remember which it was. I will check my older posts when I can.

 

Here you go, my old post regarding the 880's. You need to get your temps figured out before you try anything else though.

"I actually ended up settling on the 353.06 drivers for my previous 880m sli. I then changed system power management to high performance when gaming. In NVIDIA control panel I set global to prefer max performance and the went into each program (game) in NVIDIA control panel and selected prefer max performance for whatever game I was playing. With all that set, my cards ran at stock boost 993 with only occasional throttle down to 960 or so. The only time there was any significant throttle or drop in clocks was during cutscenes and non playing moments. In game was very stable. I was running 8.1 though so that along with the general crapshoot that applies to NVIDIA drivers means you may not get the same performance I did"

 

With the GPU disappearing 3 times, you need to work on getting that replaced. If you're hitting 94C, that card isn't going to live long so I would remove the modded BIOS and go back to stock. Then use the 359.16 drivers. These drivers are the Golden drivers for Kepler cards.

As for the warranty exchange, I know I was successful with my Sager but that was after 2 failures and trust me the 980m isn't a miracle. I've had 4 pairs of them in my machine now. I don't even overclock (in fact, I have them undervolted) and my machine has always stayed stationary and propped up... I even kept my temps down in the 70s, low 80s.

Anyway, I thought my 780 Ti was dying until I put the 365.19 drivers on my desktop. They even gave my already factory overclocked card a boost bump from 1076MHz to 1152MHz which pretty much always boosts to 1149MHz with the stock power limit. 365.19 is the best driver I've used for Kepler or Maxwell and I've had my 780 Ti since 2014 and I got my 880Ms back then as well and then the 980Ms in that December. No issues with the 980Ms or the Ti with that driver, worth a try with the 880M. After all at the end of the day, the 880M is a high ASIC GTX 680 core that would have made a desktop enthusiast very happy (high clocks, low voltage) but the leakage is so high that laptops can't cool it along with 8GB of VRAM which doesn't help the heat issue either.

 

Ouch...sounds like the 580M days all over again.

 

It could well have been something else in my machine causing the problems but now everything in it except the display, drives, RAM, and processor have been replaced on my last RMA. It's like a brand new machine. 980M failures aren't unheard of but they're nowhere near as rampant as the 480M and 580M were.

 

I actually have whatever bios came with the computer. I downloaded and installed GPU-Z last night, and it's been running non-stop, since, so I think I have a decent sized log file, by now. Ironically, as soon as I downloaded and installed it, my GPU never went above 60 C despite being at 95% load in a 77 F room for three hours. I later moved into an 82 F room, and it moved up to about 71 C, and a couple hours later it was up to 83 C, so I think the difference might have been that I started the computer up from standby, whereas I generally leave it on 24/7 and just close the lid (it's set to not do anything when I do that). So my best guess is that the frame was cold-soaked and was able to absorb the excess heat for 5 hours before becoming heat-soaked and unable to absorb any more excess heat. That could be completely bogus, as easily as it could be true.

80.04.F5.00.07 vBios. Current Driver: 358.87

I'll have to double-check the first couple pages in this forum where you explained how to create those nice graphs and how to cut out specific sections to display.