R9 370 Details leaked - Finally a new architecture from AMD?

I don't trust Nvidia as far as I can throw them. They have proven time and time again they are scum. While I still prefer their hardware to AMD's, I hope they get their just deserve soon.. In a competitive way.

 

Yeah no kidding, AMD is the reason Intel doesn't charge i7 prices for their i5 lineup, and why they still bother to improve IPC by 5-7% every year.

Also Zymphad, if you think all of this is fanboying for AMD, boy do you need to get a reality check. NBR is one of the most brand neutral sites (except for dem crazy ass Alienware owners of course ), and people here generally know a lot more than hardware (and what they're talking about in general) than the knuckleheads at most tech kiddie type desktop forums (which is like 95% of all desktop forums, some worse than others, but they all fall in the same bucket).

 

I don't. What I hope is that their GPU actually works and is strong enough to be a competitor. If AMD tries to pawn off something that can barely scratch a 965M for the price of a 970M however... they can stuff it.

 

I'd even take a new 'extreme' APU. Give us SOMETHING.
Where are all those A-Series tablets we heard about for a few years now?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the Catalyst drivers in the past year or two have been quite good.
They culminated in Omega Catalyst drivers which seemed to have improved performance on a lot of hardware.

 

Regarding drivers read post #6. The whole topic is an interesting read, but post #6 clarifies a lot of things.

 

Ex-Nvidia intern writing a novel to tell us what we already knew

But seriously, why does Nvidia partner with Ubisoft... -_-

 

Because money > PC gaming

 

Samsung is supposedly considering a purchase of AMD to meet competition from Intel, Qualcomm and TSMC:

http://economy.hankooki.com/lpage/industry/201503/e20150317173417120250.htm

Google translate of that page is half-gibberish to me. Interpretation of another tech sites translation:

 

Samsung buying AMD wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened. I am not the world's biggest fan of Samsung but if anyone could turn AMD around I'd say Samsung would be a great fit.

I don't really think that there should be concern about the x86 license. Doesn't Intel license AMD64? It would be stupid for them to contest transferring the x86 cross-license from 1995.

 

Depends on where the money is and if the check clears.

 

And before you know it, we'll have the third option everyone so much wants. Yeah, I hate gnusmas.

 

I'd be up for Samsung to buyout AMD if it means they'll provide the funds necessary for decent laptop GPUs from the Reds once again.

I'd like Intel to get into the dedicated GPU business properly too, what with their advanced process tech and bucket loads of R&D money.

More competition the merrier!

Looks like Intel is content with their CPU dominance for now though, whilst merely nibbling away gradually at the low-end discrete GPU market.

 

Well you can't spell S AMsung without AM ...









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Yeah Intel has some pretty decent tech; the smoke and stuff from Grid 2 is pretty nice... though Maxwell's render tech and bandwidth optimizations are nothing to sneeze at. I'd not mind if Intel started making dGPUs... but we all know it'll all be integrated only =D

 

Wonder when they will get over the Larrabee failure, though read their integrated do use some of the R&D from Larabee.

 

Larrabee turned into Xeon Phi.

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I've never heard about their Larrabee failure before. I just hate integrated stuff.

 

Will be interesting if AMD decides to release a desktop variant of their HPC APU. That thing is supposed to be a 16 core monster and have a R9 400 series GPU in it along with HBM 2, though it's a 200-300W monster but it will probably destroy anything else for VR.

 

Larabee was going to be Intel entry into dGPU, with the first x86 GPU. Huge hype, they even bought out a gaming studio, Project Offset to showcase this game, that was going to be the tech demo. But nothing came of it, just fizzled. No explosion, just went away without a word, gone.

Was supposed to be game changer GPGPU capable of ray tracing, revolutionizing graphics.

 

Imagine if Intel had entered the dGPU game. We'd have <28nm GPUs by now! Ahhh... what could have been...

 

I think you mean <28nm

 

Damn, my sneaky ninja edit wasn't quick enough!

 

In the desktop arena... 200-300W is really nothing much... plus, considering that this particular APU would have HBM and quite likely a very large step up in terms of GPU (think along the lines of what's available now in dedicated gpu's) all neatly packed into a single product, you wouldn't need to get a dedicated GPU (especially with HSA in the play).

If a 16 core x86 hbm apu is for servers, then a consumer variant will probably be up to 8 cores (maybe 12).
Though, realistically, I don't see a problem with a 300W 16 x86 core HBM apu in consumer desktops to begin with.
The mobile could be a cut down version (say 8 or 12 core version... though 16 cores seems doable as well) that will use HBM regardless but with a TDP in the 145W range for instance and less powerful GPU on the APU (but still more than capable).

A 145W mobile APU with HBM and 16 x86 cores seems realistic as it would probably shoot past well anything available today in terms of graphics and cpu performance... and with no need for dedicated graphics, you basically get an AMD version of a top-end mobile system.

 

^Are you two AMD lovers nuts? How would you even begin to cool a single massive 200-300W die inside anything remotely resembling a mobile form factor?

Hypothetically speaking, game performance will still be well behind an Intel-based system with a dGPU. We're still talking AMD's weak x86 cores. HSA is a non-factor for games.

That's neither realistic nor would it stand a chance against an i7 + 980M at the same TDP.

 

Yep

Spoiler: Xeon Phi

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Xeon-Phi-7120P-Coprocessor/dp/B00FKG9R2Q (read the review )

InB4 "but can it run Crysis?" (The answer is no.)

 

In for 4, don't care if it can't run Crysis.

 

You'll have to connect your monitors wirelessly

 

WiDi with Xeon Phi

Hey that rhymes!

 

Who said anything about putting a 300W APU in mobile, we will be lucky if we get it in a Desktop (it's meant for supercomputers right now) and for your second part it is possible to make it mobile also at 100-125W since it will be made at 14nm and even with only 8 Zen cores no i7 +980m setup will stand a chance. We are talking about as much or even more CUs than Fiji and at much lower clocks + 14nm + HBM 2 it won't use much power, 980M isn't even close.

 

Where does it say 14nm? Even for 2016 I'm reading 20nm. And who cares about HBM, will be as glorious as Mantle. HBM while faster isn't going to be earth shattering. AMD"s promo marketing so far is BS far as I'm concerned, their claim is it's going to be more powerful than Titan X. Yeah right....

AMD's Zen APU putting Intel to dust? Are you insane? Are you utterly daft? I couldn't care if it was 24 core.

I hope Zen is even more disastrous than Bulldozer was. And seems to me AMD is focusing on SoC and their terrible ARM server APUs, desktop x86 still low on their priorities.

I hope it's soldered only APU for mobile, no MXM And only MSI will be using these PC SoC, lulz, your laptop will be giant phablet.

I want more hype for AMD. More HYPE!

When reality sets in, the glee will be all the more sweeter. I'm hoping for worse than Bulldozer disaster and laughable Mantle attempt.

 

I was almost gona reply but then I saw it's Zymphad...

 

Thanks for that, let's just keep it civil in here

 

facepalm@Zymphad

Seriously dude, give it a rest.

 

You too. Stop making absurd claims and predictions.

 

Not as absurd as Zymphad though... I think his claims are quite logical unlike Zymphad's.. Which are outright fanboi like!

 

I like how Mr. AMD Whisperer is already jumping the gun 3 nodes ahead to 14nm when AMD is still on 28nm

 

Well Link4 is like the anti-Zymphad so yes equally as bad

 

Yep. Yin to his yang, two's a company,...

 

You're all wrong, Intel's Larrebee is obviously the best GPU to grace the face of the Earth.

 

It's not even a GPU doe

 

April fools

 

Looks like AMD and NVIDIA have competition. Finally!

http://m.hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/82084-3dfx-voodoo-reloaded-worlds-fastest-graphics/

 

rofl that "Voodoo Reloaded" card is basically what the rumored 390X is supposed to be

 

It will end up being called Voodoo 9 9999. What a beast.

 

Its pretty hilarious to think about... Since nVidia bought most of 3dfx's assets and all.

 

True. It was rather obvious from a mile away.

This is certainly legit though.

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-990-ti-24gb-amd-r9-395x2-16gb-benchmarked-reviewed/

That cinematic framerate.

 

You know what's really legit? This TPU review *NSFW WARNING*

Dat overclocking section had me rolling on the floor

 

Ahahaha...gives a new meaning to tech geek.
I guess such an enthusiast should look into building their own rig..