Radeon R9-M295X

It is at 1.26v at load. This baby is rated up to 1.45v. Not being pushed to limit really.

Anyways I just did a side by side comparison with a 2920xm at 4.2ghz and the difference with mine at 3.73ghz is 24% in pass mark. 11% clockspeed advantage and 14% architecture advantage.

Not much difference really. Especially considering the m15x is only a single gpu machine. It doesn't need more horsepower than this yet.


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I don't doubt that.. Its almost 5 years and its going strong.. Can't say the same for Pentium 4 HT

Well, a more accurate comparison would be for both of them to be at the same clockspeed but the result is not that surprising... Well Gl and long live the 15x....

 

Unfortunately my copy of passmark expired. The new one seems to give lower scores. They changed it?

Lol pent 4! That was rubbish in 2002. Let alone now!

 

People in China are starting to talk about the chip,

Its apparantly coming to Hasee K780S (For $1400], P177SM-A, P375SM-A and MSI barebones.
Performance is very good compared to GTX 880M although no numbers have been posted yet.

Its a good sign that the guys from east are waking up. I think benchmarks etc are not far away now

 

Laptops with it will only cost 1400? That's very cheap if it will beat the 880m

 

It will beat the 880M. Until Maxwell comes out properly.

 

The same notebook is selling with GTX 780M for $1400 in China. It isnt europe and outrageous prices you know

 

28nm Maxwell will only be about even, nothing faster will come out until 20nm GPUs shows up, and who knows when that would be. (My guess is over 9 months later.)

 

They might just skip the process.

 

It does look like they are jumping to 16nm FinFETs yes.
GM204 and GM200 is both 28nm it seems, so that should cover products for the next year until 16nm is ready.

 

That is just a rumor though, and means even more delays if true, and also that was about desktop cards, they might have a different schedule for mobile.

 

Just found something interesting on Videocardz.



Edit: Note that not only is there the monstrosity of a GPU that is Fiji, but also Tonga die size is only about 280mm^2, which is quite smaller than the 365mm^2 Tahiti die, and all on 28nm.

 

So we are looking at a die size jump from 212mm2 to 280mm2? Is that good or doesn't matter?

 

It means it should be easier to cool at the same TDP.

 

But the clocks wont be as high most likely without getting REALLY power hungry.

 

No, we are looking at a die reduction from 365mm2 down to 280mm2 if their estimation about Tonga is correct. Although you are right that M295X will be bigger than M290X, what is more interesting is cores/mm2 die.

It have to be a new architecture. Otherwise with a dense chip like Hawaii and with the same efficiency as GCN 1.0 it would become very hot.

 

Any more updates here?

 

Bump? Any information on when this might get released, then we can also get an idea of when to expect the gtx880mx

 

Well, all the leaks point to Tonga being released next month, even though this might be the desktop variant or the server/workstation FirePro, or both.
If the mobile variant M295X isn't released next month, then it should be released by the end of Q3 / end of September the latest.

 

I've found this. Not sure if something helpful could be extracted, other than someone already got it.

 

Good find

That right there is a notebook (4710HQ) running the R9 M295X. It also again confirm that it will have 32CUs and most likely 2048 cores (32x64) running at max 723MHz.

Its a tiny bit slower than the 800MHz we sae R9 M295X running at earlier, but atleast now we have a test from a notebook running the R9 M295X

Rumor has it that the R9 M295X is a 350mm2 die, a good deal bigger than the 7970M, which is a 212mm2 die.


But AMD is not the only one pushing out big die's to mobile. Nvidia will too with the 880MX

 

This is nice but talk about a teaser!! Why no gpuz or 3d mark 11 Lolz!!

Teasing us!


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Probably some OEM just taking the chip for a test drive

 

The only machine I know with 4710HQ is GT72. Maybe the FX 7600 is not ready yet, or the MoBo for GX series (as we know, they go all AMD), and they are testing on Intel platform? Just a thought.

 

MSI GS60, GS70, GT72
Gigabyte P34, P35W

Probably more

 

2048 cores? Not bad. But 723mhz leaves a lot to be desired.

 

It could be a new unit (GT72) because I cant find the device_id anywhere

What is also interesting is what those GCN 2.0 cores can do vs the old GCN 1.0 cores (7970M, M290X). If they perform better, it will be a very interesting chip.

 

Sure, but only GT72 has the thermal envelop for this monster I'm a bit shortsighted, I only watch systems with MXM in there

 

P35W have GTX 880M. GS60 and GS70 have GTX 870M.

But yeah I agree, just because they all have those GPUs, GT72 is really what is most capable. MXM cards is also very important of course

 

the p35w comes with the 870m as well.

 

Yes that one too.

 

doesn't really matter all those notebooks you listed can't handle the heat of the gpu that they put in there, except the gt72

 

The > 350mm^2 GPU might be a refresh of a Hawaii (the one that will go into R9 380X), Tahiti itself is only 352mm^2 with a beefier 384bit very high clocking memory controller (remember it consumes a die area larger than the 512bit memory controller in Hawaii) while Tonga has it reduced to 256bit. It would take something huge, such as a complete redesign of a Compute Unit by increased SP count for example from 64 to 96, or by increasing lvl2 cache, but the lvl2 cache compared to the rest of the GPU is so small they have to increase it by a significant factor for it to even cross the 350mm^2 die mark. The about 280mm^2 die sounds more logical.

 

So the question is when to sell my 7970M

 

But how much of an improvement do you reckon this new AMD card could have over the 7970m?

 

2048 cores vs 1280 and a new architecture GCN 1 vs 2. I think quite alot better.

Time will tell. 7970M isn't bad and I have mine running ultra cool at stock clocks 70C and under while gaming. However it doesn't OC so well and will be insufficient in a year or so in modern titles.

Ebay gets you for the same money a 8970M and 765M lol. AMD far better bang for buck.
Anyways lets see. Very soon we will see benchmarks.

 

With all the teasers AMD are releasing (including a supposedly new A series processor with better CPU cores, and a supposedly 12 Core chip, don't know if its HSA or something else) I am expecting a big event from AMD sometime next month where they will release a bunch of new stuff.

 

i'd say they are aiming for R 280x performance on a laptop. Obviously a bit toned down, but on the same ballpark. That way they can claim to be faster than 880m, until nvidia fires back to shoot them down.

 

We are talking about 280 non-X performance i think. For laptop that's great and faster than 780/880m for sure.

 

cloud fire where is the tonga and 880mx or 295mx I need that now

 

It might be the 3xxX series, it might be Tonga. Remember that the GPU it will replace is R9 280X which is a 365mm2. I don`t think AMD can increase the shaders/mm2 and make it more denser if they plan on putting the chip inside a notebook. Remember how hot Hawaii (dense chip) became?

28HPM means its from GobalFoundries, and AMD said to investors this year is 28nm while next year they are jumping to 20nm from GloFo. Which means that the chips above is most likely releasing this year, the upcoming 5 months. I have a feeling the 350mm2 is Tonga, while the other one 500mm2 builds upon the R9 290X (438mm2) and increase shader count.

But what do I know. You could be right, those two might be for 3xxX series only, while Tonga somehow wasn`t mentioned on the slide.

I know its hard but in next month we should see some movement from AMD.
Not sure if mobile Tonga launch that month though, but desktop is happening then.

Fingers crossed

 

Any news bout the new chip? And If you could replace The old 7970m in clevo p170em? Thx

 

Just because it is based on the GloFo 28nm process I expect Tonga to be smaller, just look at Kaveri and how dense that is. Hawaii was made in TSMC and the issue was leakage at high temps. For a 100W mobile GPU that shouldn't be an issue. And also there is another reason why I believe Tonga won't be anywhere near 350mm^2 if it has 2048SPs. If it does have 2048SP then 390X should have about twice the transistors (slightly less beacuse the VCE, UVD, display controllers and such do not double). And if Tonga was > 350mm^2 then 390X would end up having a GPU > 650mm^2. I just don't think AMD will ever make something that huge, it's just pointless.

 

My point was:
Mobile Tonga: Keep transistor density lower than desktop chips due to hotspots which notebooks could have a problem to deal with
Desktop R9 3xxX chips: Go ahead with Hawaii like tiles with high density to use the space available better since they are still at 28nm.

I don`t think R9 M295X would be a 350mm2 chip with high density. If it was, I`d agree with you that the chip would be very powerful and could potentially feature more shaders per CU

 

A new brand called Marathon is coming with a new notebook with the R9 M295X

Marathon Pro C1 8870 Plus
14.1 inch 1920x1200
FX 7600P
R9 M295X
16GB DDR3L

Could possibly be a new brand that just sell notebooks in China. But atleast its nice too finally see someone announcing a product with the upcoming Tonga chip.

 

The FX 7600p is rated at 35w. AMD should release a 45w version with increased clocks, but otherwise thus Marathon Pro computer seems like MSIs GX60/70 series. Which is too bad for the CPU...

 

16:10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how the hell they cool the GPU alone, unless we are talking about 15" chassis with 14" display

 

Like the Alienware 14.

The classic 16:10 is refreshing to see though.

 

dammnnnn!

I wonder if the specs are true, I would love one of those! except that the performance of AMD cpus in total war is abysmal to say the least

 

Do we have links / pricing?