Radeon R9-M295X

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Don't be so rude, from the early reviews the performance seems promising - it wont be HUGE bottleneck, but rather huge It's very refreshing to see entirely AMD based machine AND 16:10. You know they have to start from somewhere, otherwise Intel MX/XM prices would hit the $2000 mark. I hope the price would be right.

 

I pity the fool who spends 1500-1800$ on that.

CPU load 100% GPU 30% lol. Also that's gonna be hotter than hell in a 14 inch form.

 

Totally agree with Triturbo. At least there is an offering from AMD. Intel have such a grip on the marketplace is there was zero AMD presence it wouldn't be good for us the consumer!

That said I am selling my 7970M and getting a 680M

 

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Pretty amazing that they managed to squeeze M295X inside a 14 inch

Although I agree we should be sceptical, nobody knows if the FX-7600P will bottleneck the GPU this time. The APU is quite a bit faster than Kaveri that bottlenecked the R9 M290X.

We shall see

 

From the link you've posted, it says it can be considered as either a tablet or a laptop. (depends on how you use it)

This is the spec, according to the website

14.1" 1920x1200 touch screen
AMD FX7500 (low volt.)
R9 M295X (4GB VRAM)
DDR3L 1600 8GB x 2
Crucial SSD 128GB (PCI-E x 4)
WD 1TB slim HDD
USB 2.0 x 2
USB 3.1 x 2
HDMI Output
Card reader
Fingerprint reader
HP 8x Blu-ray writer
13 Mega-pixel webcam
Bluetooth

motherboard:
1 x SATAIII, 4 x DDR3 ram slot, 1 x PCI-E X16, 2 x PCI-E X8, 2 x PCI-E X4

Thickness: 10.1mm
Weight: 1.978kg

(TPM is supported by BIOS)

With 9 years technical support, and the price is only $2999 (I have no idea what currency it is written in, but most likely its in RMB as its a Chinese website). [~USD$480]

Is it possible to have all these packed in such a small laptop and with such a low price...?

 

Repeated. Sorry

 

The GTX 860m chip alone sells for close to $500, so I would expect the 295x to cost more given its relative performance. As such, I highly doubt that laptop would sell for $480. Not in North America/Europe, anyway.

 

Thanks for the translation jasonlam

Very curious about the M295X and we are so close now. Its indeed strange they managed to squeeze those components inside a device so small.

 

10.1mm with a Blu-Ray writer (assuming not an external one) and a M295X, I say thats nonsense, not possible. Unless the 10.1mm is only the screen/tablet with the FX7500 and SSD, while the bulky keyboard/chassis contains the M295X, the hard drive, Blu-Ray writer and any other large components.

 

For those that say wait and see whether or not the FX-7600P will bottleneck the M295X, stop kidding yourselves. The new Kaveri APU is still at Core i3 levels of performance or less, and is a smaller performance increase from the Trinity/Richland APU's it replaces than the M295X is from the 7970M and its rebadges. Expect it to bottleneck the GPU as badly as before, if not more.

 

Well I checked around for some benchmarks.
FX-7600P have 10% better multi-thread performance and 4% better in single than A10-5750M.
5750M was the one that was paired with R9 M290X.

Not exactly a huge boost no. There will probably be some bottlenecking there, curious to see how much.

 

No it performs similar to dual core mobile i7s, even the 35W one, as long as the software isn't junk that only uses one core or a 2 threaded one that barely uses 10% of the second core while keeping the first pinned at 90%.

 

Lenovo have one that is 9.5mm
ThinkPad Blu-ray Burner Ultrabay Slim 9.5mm Drive (SATA) - Overview

Still amazed about the thickness and the GPU yes.

 

Still not good enough to go into a 10.1mm device.

 

Why?
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Still no info about the crossfire of these cards?

If there is the same feature as the desktop 290X which prevents micro stuttering, this might be the best option, since the 980M looks very expensive..

 

Yeah... things like mantle which is only one game so far are the only ones that can benefit from such a weak CPU. This Kaveri APU needs to be beyond 4ghz to work on a gaming laptop and match something like an old Core i3. I don't know what's stopping AMD from reducing the IGP to bare minimum, and raise the TDP even to 54w just to offer a heavily overclocked CPU. This is not even about competing vs intel for gaming, just to offer something that can actually game....

 

Because it just won't fit in the case, that only leaves 0.6mm of thickness and thats just 0.3mm on each side of the case, which isn't thick enough to be hard, even if its made of metal, let alone to fit a touch screen in there. Even the flimsy plastic back of the Galaxy S3 is almost a mm thick.

 

That APU WILL bottleneck even the m290x, the question is how much improvemente will be from the a10-5750, i bet that 20-30% being optimistic. They would need to improve the IPC by at least 50% (additional to that 20-30% i say) in order to not bottleneck a high end laptop GPU

 

This card sounds so awesome, yet the only thing im worried about, if its going to work with my clevo p150em.

 

LOL a quick Google tells me that the new beast would be 125W It would be interesting to see the new heat-sinks There surely would be blood, I bet nVIDIA would respond promptly, and manufacturers would die in pain making those expensive heat-sinks

 

I'm pretty sure the same heatsinks will be used.

 

If that is the case then I am glad that my 7970M will be replaced by the 680M!

125W GPU's sounds pretty ridiculous and it just wouldn't work out in my machine. I hope this really isn't the case!

 

125W = hello 880M heat.

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Less overclock headroom, (if at all) or noisier fans? Or both

What kind of bump are you expecting? I mean there would be if you overclock hard, but is there enough room with M15x?

I'm on the contrary, this way, we are getting closer to the desktop parts. There are such monsters, that 100W is not even mid-range anymore

 

Found the post you are ref to. Lovely translation done by Google.

https://translate.google.no/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ilbe.com%2F4022655352&edit-text=

We will see. This could absolutely be another GTX 880M which is also 125W. But I expect M295X to be quite a bit faster though.

 

Gees, those Koreans like to f****ing swear! (if you read the comments!)

 

Current heatsinks are simply not good enough for 125W but that may be a blessing in disguise if Clevo makes an M295X heatsink and we can replace our 880M heatsinks with that one.

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haha yes.

 

That 125W TDP sounds weird for M295X, maybe someone got info on Tonga TDP and automatically assumed it to be M295X instead of the Desktop variant.

 

A good theory as well
I suspect the M295X to atleast be close to 100W.

Really curious about the performance on that one.
We are talking 60% more shaders than R9 M290X. If they are more effective than the GCN 1.0 shaders, say like Maxwell that saw +35% per core over Kepler, we should have an insane mobile chip coming up.

It could be 7970M vs GTX 680M all over again, but now its R9 M295X vs GTX 980M.

 

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There are a few things AMD could have done to improve the performance of the Tonga GPU compared to Tahiti. First is if you guys still remember back when the 7950 (non boost) launched it really had a hard time outperforming the great GPU at the time that was Pitcairn XT. The 7870GHz got great reviews at the time thanks to the fact that it offered great ROP performance while being a very efficient and small GPU, completely outperforming the 6970. The 7950 wasn't doing so well though, sure it was much more power efficient than the 7970 but the very low clocks and the same number of ROPs as the 7870 meant that its ROP performance was so much worse that it lost almost all of its shader advantage. So what AMD could have done to improve Tonga performance is increase the ROPs to 48 to counter the lower clock speed of the mobile variant, assuming those ~800MHz clock from those leaks isn't completely off. Other reports claim that AMD is going to do significant changes to the ACE (the asynchronous compute engine) which is supposedly to improve the compute performance of the GPU, but judging by the fact that GCN 1.1 already had great compute performance (especially double precision) I doubt AMD would have spent money for only compute performance improvements. When it comes to GCN GPUs, the ACE is the brain of operations, sort of like decoders and schedulers, aka the front end, of the CPU. Tahiti only has 2 of them (according to block diagrams, while Hawaii has 8), and I expect the ACEs of Tahiti to at least be wider or double in count. They may also increase L1 and L2 cache size or reduce latency.
As for Maxwell improvements, besides cache changes it isn't anything special. They just reduced the cores in the modules, its kind of similar to what AMD did when they went from VLIW5 to VLIW4, except it's a 33% cut as opposed to 20%.

 

Any idea on ETA for this card? I'm assuming it will be out by the end of 2014? Hopefully, eager to buy a new AW soon with bitcoins

 

LOL buying a Radeon notebook with Bitcoin so you can mine even more Bitcoin. :laugh:

 

I'm hoping the M295X will have a radiator water cooling solution just like the dual GPU version. Gaming laptops need to start having these, even if it means a having a little bulkier chassis.

 

I reckon the chances of that happening are slim to none. Probably too expensive, and perhaps too damaging if leeks occur. I think NVidia/AMD are just going the route of creating less power hungry devices rather than relying on suppliers creating elaborate & expensive cooling solutions.

 

I'm excited! Definitely never going to see water cooled laptops, not from the factory anyway. TDP will not exceed 100W (from factory). Finally a proper replacement for a 3 year old mobile card (7970M, 8970M, R9 M290x).

Btw, what is with this new naming scheme....I don't like it at all. Should have just called it 9970M.

 

He would mine 0.00054724 bitcoins per month, or $0.32 per month if it got the same performance as a 7970.

Great idea

 

(or at least not more than 125W of 880M I would think)

 

No he would mine Litecoin and then turn them into Bitcoin.

 

Mining Litecoin with 7970 will net you $5 per month.
Converting this to Bitcoin will give you 0.06 bitcoins per month, or $35.
Mining 24/7 with no time for gaming. You will go even in about 2 years.

Seriously dude, mining with GPUs is dead and have been for a looong time now

 

lol most GPU miners do not mine btc or ltc anymore, that was so last year. We mine new crappy alt coins and wait for them to get pumped and dumped on exchanges. I'm more of a trader than a miner.

 

Agreed, and hopefully it will stay dead, so that prices don't have ridiculous hikes!

 

A 7970M with 8GB's of VRAM, can't wait. :thumbsup:

 

Not exactly: AMD Radeon R9 M295X 4GB compare AMD Radeon HD 7970M GPU

Hopefully current rumored specs are close to the real thing.

 

Was just joking. I suspect two years of re-branding is where AMD draws the line (8970M and M290x).

That M295x is not that impressive, though.

 

Where are your benchmarks to say that?

 

Which part? I looked at the link he posted.