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    Razer Blade -- Discuss

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by warez420, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. warez420

    warez420 Notebook Consultant

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    takes a while to get used to not moving my finger and thumb down instead of to the right to move cursor... but getting there.
     
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    Do you find the Switchblade thing genuinely useful, or is it more a gimmicky new toy that won't get used after 2 weeks?
     
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    really not using it much yet, still dowloading games and stuff.... I can easily see myself using it with certain games once I feel confident enough about customizing the keys. Already changed jpegs and stuff, really cool. want razer to start offering custom key setups for games. they should have some available for download off their website or something.

    not able to install newer NVIDIA drivers, even with modded INFs... I get "files are missing" during attempts...

    Gpu hit 55 degrees after vantage
     
  5. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Really? That's some serious cooling..

    Is the GPU under clocked by any chance?

    Could you post some GPU-Z screenshots?
     
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    [​IMG]

    here you go
     
  7. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Looks like a different version from all the current GT 555ms, I found that this is identical to the GX780R.

    This has a GF116 / 144 core / GDDR5 / 128bit bus... So..

    Hmm.. I think this is currently the best amongst the GT 555m.
    [​IMG]
     
  8. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    MSI also has a machine with that particular 555M listed on its website, though I don't see it actually for sale anywhere.

    @johnnbots - Would you please find the details on who manufactured the screen? You can download HWiNFO64, then expand the Monitor page.
     
  9. Ellatan

    Ellatan Old Timer

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    Were the vantage scores posted somewhere?
     
  10. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Only the 3dmark 11.

    It is ahead of the early 2011 MBP 17..
     
  11. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    This.

    This is higher than a stock m14x with 2760QM / 1.5GB GT 555m of P1325.
     
  12. Ellatan

    Ellatan Old Timer

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    Then follows his post about 1570 Score in 3DMark11. That explains a lot doesn't it? I doubt that score was posted with 675/625 Mhz clocks on stock settings :) M14x would beat that with a Quadcore and OC.
     
  13. baii

    baii Sone

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    So I just see language option of English and Chinese.
    and they have a Chinese/Asian CEO


    So Razer stuff all from china and so expensive ~~? (I guess they are good @ US marketing xD)

    I am not trying to be racist w.e as myself is Chinese as well.
     
  14. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Now that I'm looking at it, the 192-bit version is technically superior.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. johnnobts

    johnnobts Notebook Deity

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    have not oc'ed the card yet. but the temps seem pretty low so may give it a go later. did try updating the driver with no luck...
     
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    not sure why they don't do a 192-bit vs. with gddr5. make no sense to me.
     
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    My only guess is Dell had a deal with nVidia to give them the best 555M in the market? That can explain all the weird variations of this GPU.
     
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    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Isn't the m14x GT 555m inferior to this?

    I thought the m14x had the GF106 Core version.
     
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    vantage: 6521

    temp reaches 61
     
  21. ferdinandRU

    ferdinandRU Notebook Enthusiast

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    what's with FPS in BF3? maybe Diablo3 beta? Post more pics please i beg you
     
  22. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Trust the NBR members to bring out the truth. :D
    Thanks for sharing all the information with us, johnnobts.
     
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    sigh... still downloading BF3, at 70%, will play tomorrow. Did custom switchblade keys for Skyrim! Really cool and useful for this game.
     
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    Could you post links or screenshots to the benchmark scores? It has i7-2640M, right?
     
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    M14x is 192-bit, 144 shader, 24 ROPS DDR3

    Razer is 128-bit, 144 shader, 16 ROPS, GDDR5

    Bandwidth is technically higher for the M14x version, but GDDR5 can make a decent difference.

    They do, it's called the GTX 560m.
     
  26. Kevin

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    ding ding ding

    It's gimped solely for market positioning.
     
  27. gamba66

    gamba66 Notebook Evangelist

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    isnt this the same version as in the LG xnote p330 you sold? EDIT: just saw it says gddr5 sry!

    oh and the latest m14x that are being sold also have a gf116 core.. i still own the old m14x with the gf 106

    people noticed this when drivers didnt install properly.. the difference between gf106 and the gf116 seems to be minor and only noticeable temperature wise
     
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    Razer keeps sending auto updates for the switchblade, 2 updates in one day... haven't noticed any changes yet. want to be able to use more apps on the touchpad.

    Scratch that: See they've added some custom icons for Star Wars (quite a few), and another icon pack. Good times.
     
  29. clasak

    clasak Notebook Geek

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    So just wondering how is the blade running? Up to par on what razor was saying?

    Is it worth the price, considering I am on the list to buy one. I just want to make sure its not a piece of junk

    I understand there is a lot of hate for the blade but I dont care I love the way it looks and my asus g73 is almost dead and I am quite tired of not taking a laptop to school since the asus wont even fit in my backpack or for that matter last through a class taking notes....

    I will be playing just the new mmo's anyways not a FPS type of guy. Thanks for taking time to let us in on your purchase....


    <---- Also why when I google anything with Razer Blade reviews I only find that you are the one with one in hand...lol....maybe they only sold one like all the haters said, and why is there no press reviews like every other laptop to hit the market?
     
  30. HTWingNut

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    I would like to know where all the review samples are as well. Seems they would have several to send around to get media benchmark and reviews rather than just hype from Razer. $2800 is a lot of money to spend without all the details.
     
  31. Ellatan

    Ellatan Old Timer

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    If you love the way it looks, anything is worth the price. You could compare it with Clevo W170HR with GT 555M.

    Clevo W170HR: $1400 with i7 Quad and 256GB SSD
    16.26" (w) x 10.93" (d) x 0.99"-1.53" (h)
    6.83 lbs with 6-cell Battery

    Razer Blade: $2800 with i7 Dual and 256 GB SSD
    16.81" (w) x 10.90" (d) x 0.88" (h)
    6.4 lbs with 6-cell Battery

    They should be similar in performance. However Razer is thinner and has that display touchpad panel and several other premium options. You have to decide if those are worth it for you.
     
  32. ryzeki

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    Well gaming wise is actually worse or less capable than your Asus, just for starters. And sizewise... this thing is huge dude. It's just slim but it is still a 17incher, very wide and weigths almost like any other laptop.

    The razer is just for looks. The display is a fun gimmick and the custom buttons is the most idiotic thing I have ever seen, considering any key of your keyboard serves as much but doesn't have lcd underneat to show icons.

    It's just something to showoff. If you like all style and no substance, sure its a great machine with unmatched looks. Hardwarewise leaves a lot to be desired.
     
  33. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Wow.. such hate. ;)

    I feel like the Blade is criticized even more than the MBPs.. :D
     
  34. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah people keep chiming in just to express the hate they have towards it ....

    Reminds me of when i got my W90 Asus sadly.

    We get it, you do not like the Razer Blade, now move along ;).
     
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    Well, they are stating opinion, the thread is to disgust, er, discuss it and not for a fan club only. There's plenty of reason for criticism, primarily due to cost. Although I'm not sure how some people can be so positive about it either considering there's no real information available nor have they most likely seen or used such a machine.

    The machine itself is interesting, but just for what it is not because I'd ever want to own one unless it was < $1200 then it would be a bargain.
     
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    Posts like that make me not want to revisit and comment on this thread... Almost done with video of impressions.
     
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    I understand where you are coming from. However you also have to understand the skepticism. It's hard to accept a $2800 laptop with mediocre specs on paper and Razer's lack of providing review samples and any kind of detailed information.

    You've provided a ton more info than anything Razer has besides their pomp and circumstance about the touchpad.

    To be honest if I was gainfully employed again, I probably would have bought one just for curiosity sake and then resold it, most likely making all my money back if not more.
     
  38. Kevin

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    Well, before you banish yourself from the thread, please do this for me:

     
  39. YodaGoneMad

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    I have no idea why the mods decided to merge these threads.

    The thread in the Other Manufactures forum was basically an owners lounge kinda thing, with a guy who had one and interested people talking to him.

    The thread in Gaming was a bloody pit of hatred and ignorance.

    Why they had to do away with the good thread in Other Manufactures and put it into the thread of hatred and ignorance I have no idea. Now all the people who are too poor, too cheap, or just not interested are going to continue to diss the Blade driving the guy who actually owns one away so no one can get actual impressions or information.

    Yea, if someone wanted an ugly plastic generic laptop that is 1.5 inches thick they could go buy some random Clevo for less. If someone wants a sexy .8 inch thick unique aluminum machine with exclusive features they buy a Razer Blade. How is this hard to people to grasp? The better design and exclusives features more than justify the cost in my opinion, and if you don't think so then DON'T BUY THE LAPTOP! I would never buy a Clevo, but that is because I value more than just parts for the lowest price.
     
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    Lets take the cost factor out of the equation since we all know it is very expensive and just enjoy it for what it is.

    I dont think a single person commenting here is going to buy one so i do not see the need for people to slam on something they 0 intention of purchasing. Wanna troll on the machine take it to off topic instead or somewhere else and express your distaste for it.

    I am here for the sole purpose of learning all about the machine but that may come to a bitter end quickly because of the hate/trolling going on.

    If John decides to stop posting i cant blame him one bit then the thread can just die off or it can turn into an even bigger trolling ground then it already is.


    My comments are not directed towards any one person just what i am seeing here and i really hope John keeps posting info/videos etc etc.
     
  41. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    I may not be a fan of his machine from the get-go, but it is interesting to see one in person away from press reviewers and stuff. I found the Blade to be one good looking and unique machine and I do appreciate all the first-hand user experience on the machine from John, even though I don't personally like the machine's price tag and ultimate potential.

    I think every critic here has exhausted every valid argument on why this machine is overpriced and lacking. I don't think we will need to reiterate that every, single post. I am sure it would be great to see what this elusive has and how a normal person will feel about it using it in an everyday basis.

    So I guess for the sake of knowing what Razer's up to, let's stop reiterating the cons. I think everyone got the point and for some people, they have their own personal reasons on why the Blade was a justifiable purchase.
     
  42. Ryan

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    I put in the request to merge the threads, but I wanted this thread to be moved to the other manufacturer's section as this is an official laptop that needs an owner's lounge of some sort.

    Maybe there was misunderstanding in which way the threads were going to be merged, as I didn't expect this thread to only appear in the gaming section because we officially have an owner of this machine.

    I still don't see why people are saying such harsh things about this. This has a selling point, albeit not a common one, but clearly appeals to a select niche group of gamers. I feel like this is more flashy than Alienware, and will draw more attention to those who enjoy showing off their gadgets.

    That's where the Blade holds its value, and Razer thought they would be worth the amount they are charging customers now. They sold out in the first 30 minutes, so I'm thinking this niche market is bigger than we had thought, or that the Blade is being controlled in quantity from the supply side.

    Nevertheless, we have an owner here, how would you guys feel if people came along comparing every single aspect of the machine to their own, bust the specs saying it's a total rip-off, call the selling points of the Razer Blade gimmicks that are worthless, and question who would ever buy this machine?
     
  43. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    I am sure the reason why the system sold out so fast was because of the brand-loyalty and fanboy-ism (to MOST of the sales). However, I know people like John has other justifiable reasons on why they got a Blade beyond the hype, brand loyalty, and advertisement etc.
     
  44. clasak

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    Please dont do that!!!

    Sorry I should have quoted you, since my question was directed to you and no one needed to comment on it since they have no first hand experience.

    Damn haters are quick to jump on anything that is asked about the Blade!!
     
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    I totally agree, and they sold out in the end. I think Razer made a good move. They correctly valued their product, like Apple did with their MBPs. Razer is trying to show with added features that this is indeed a serious gaming laptop, something that is designed purely for enthusiast gamers. Again, I saw their promotion videos and Razer's catch phrase is

    "World's first true gaming laptop because it's truly portable."

    Well, cheesy, and everyone knows it's missing some words here and there, but they do clearly have a point. Apple commands a premium to MBPs due to OS X, trackpad, and good looks. Razer decided to value the Switchblade UI, anti-ghosting keyboard, and good looks like Apple did.

    I personally think this company deserves a kudos for a perfect approach to the niche market, previously only thought of as something Apple could do.
     
  46. clasak

    clasak Notebook Geek

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    Well I can tell you now that the Blade will run circles around my G73
    Specs:
    Processor: Intel i7 Q720 @1.6Ghz
    Ram:6Gb
    Gpu: Ati Mobility Radeon HD 5800 series
    not going to any more since this tells enough so I guess you are misinformed
     
  47. clasak

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    I vote for this thread to be moved to a less hostile one....lol
     
  48. HTWingNut

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    Now who's insulting other brands and owners of laptops?
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    I hate to say it but you are incorrect. The GDDR 5 GT 555M in the Blade is inferior to the G73's 5870M. That is well known and well regarded so please don't be misinformed on data that has been done between the two GPU's many times via benchmarks.

    The GT 555M in the Blade can be compared to the 6770M used in HP DV7t's and the 6770M is weaker than a 5870M. A 5870M's direct competitor with the 460M/560M.
     
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    This is true.

    The 5870m is faster than the GT 555m the Razer Blade houses.
     
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