Razer to announce something on the 26th...

You can literally get 14 inch laptop with the same or better hardware. A gaming PC should not sacrifice everything just for looks, considering it is supposed to be first and foremost a gaming PC.

the specs it packs, with the ports and capabilities, for the price, it's just an abysmal deal based completely on shallow looks.

Make it a tad bit thicker, 16incher and pack real gaming hardware to justify the pricetag. I bought my MSI a year ago, and sure it isn't slim, but it is very portable and guess what? my GPU packs quite more gaming power along with other goodies like a superb sound and cooling system, a plethora of ports and otherwise great gaming capabilities.

and I paid about half of that this is going to cost.... And there are even better valued deals.

I actually like the approach of asus with their G73/4 shell, if I ever wanted a bit more style without sacrificing functionality and performance.

Ugh, this razer is only an stylish pc. With little to no value compared to just about anything else.

 

Thin and attractive are the only selling points (sans the touchpad). If you think thin and attractive is worth the $2,800, then by all means get one.

 

Newegg.com - ASUS G74 Series G74SX-A1 Notebook Intel Core i7 2630QM(2.00GHz) 17.3" 12GB Memory DDR3 1333 1.5TB HDD 7200rpm BD Combo NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M

Why is the Razer relevant again?

 

When I'm actually using the laptop, I'm not looking at how sexy it is. All I care about is the performance and how loud is it. Can it stay cool without becoming a jet turbine? And when I'm using a laptop, am I really going to notice if it's 1" thick or 1.5" thick or however thin the Razer is?

So personally, I think the Asus G74 is a much better looking machine and better machine when actually using it. It likely runs cooler and quieter than this Razer thing will. And that weird touchpad thing Razer has going is really ugly and I do have to stare at that when I'm actually using the machine.

 

My M14x is much more portable. Lighter and I can fit it in smaller laptop bags/cases. I've brought it to class daily with no problem, it has a DVD drive, 4-5 hours of battery when I don't game, and costs less than HALF the price. Oh btw very comparable specs too.

And the CEO of my laptop manufacturer does not have an annoyingly pretentious accent and glare when he makes product videos.

 

We already have that kind of laptop. For example, my HP dv6t is faster than the Razor in nearly every way (2720QM, 6770M, 640GB @ 7200RPM), but it's 15.6" rather than 17.3" and weighs more than a pound less. It's not quite as thin, but that's the price of having an optical drive.

The point of the Razor is not that it is a portable gaming laptop. That's just marketing talk --it's neither as portable nor as good at gaming as some laptops already out there. The reason they are able to ask $2800 for it with a straight face (for comparison, the above mentioned dv6t was only $1100 pre-tax) is that it has a unique style and features that aren't present on any other laptop. It's not clear to me that these features are useful enough to justify the price, but there are surely some people who will buy it for the style alone.

 

Such is my fate...someone finally builds a notebook with the touchscreen and gamepad I've been asking for for years now but taunts me by putting it on the wrong side of the keyboard.

I'm glad to see Razer entering the gaming notebook market, but it's way too late to try and be the new Voodoo. The boutique era of $5000 Alienwares and Clevos ended half a decade ago, when Dell and HP bought into the market, and trying to resurrect that era now, when people are tight with their money, is just incredibly ridiculous. I do hope Razer tries again as the gaming notebook market segment needs more system builders.

 

No, it's a complete miss. A dual core and a gimpy 555 will run games at medium or low in 1080p, or high in 1366x768, which will look awful at 17 inches.

They tried to make something portable and gaming capable. Instead they made something that's terrible at playing games, not all that portable, stuck a useless touchpad on it, and overpriced it.

Not to mention that overpriced hardware is the chief contention of the idiots who actually do think PC gaming is dead.

 

Yep, if Razer thinks it costs $2,800 to play a game on a PC...

The I would agree, by Razer's standards, PC Gaming is DEAD.

Luckily there are companies like Asus/MSI/Clevo and Alienware who know what Gaming hardware is and able to get it to us at a more reasonable price. At least with their machines you can have it last for 2-3 years or more. With that Razer Blade, it's already inadaquate NOW. Never mind 2-3 years from now.

 

Just exactly how difficult would it have been to design the keyboard and touch pad in a modular way so they could swap positions?

I see from a production perspective how the proprietary nature of that idea would be costly, but oh wait, it already is. So that doesn't matter. So if money were no object, you would skimp on modular design Razer? Got it.

 

Extremely difficult, and not so much because of the cost, but because they're trying to keep it as thin as possible. The ability to mechanically swap non-identical parts always requires some extra material and if the parts don't fit just right, the build quality suffers. It's not impossible, but I can't see how it can possibly be worth the effort. I can't think of a laptop where such a thing was ever done: you can swap electronic components (RAM, CPUs, GPUs, HDDs, etc.), but only if they're physically compatible.

 

I get your point, but that's also why you're really not the intended target consumer for the Blade.

I don't, but I predict that some people will. As one example, the new Sandy Bridge generation Sony Vaio Z doesn't bring anything really new to the table except for the proprietary RAID SSD array and the high-resolution screen option. The media dock isn't all-powerful, in fact, a cheaper custom eGPU solution hooked up to, say, an X220 would outperform it.

But then, why do people buy it anyway? Because it offers what it does in a classy, thin and light, and very elegant package. If those are not part of your values (they're very secondary to me), then you're probably not the target market.

The major "fail" of the Blade so far, I think, is that it was/is marketed as the most powerful gaming laptop ever... which it definitely isn't.

That, and I've only ever met one person who was a left-handed mouse user. They're in the minority, and overcomplicating a design (and increasing costs further) isn't worth it to cater to that small minority.

 

The only thing I really like about the Blade is the unique touchpad display.

Hopefully affordable gaming laptop manufacturers such as Asus/MSI/Sager and even AW will copy that display and incorporate it into future models

Heck - Razer should of just teamed up with laptop manufacturers and offered them their display technology. This way, they'd get a % cut from all sales.

 

The MBP is actually a larger, more powerful, more cost efficient Razer. Yeah, the Razer Blade is the MBP's MBP.

 

The target demographic for this machine is supposed to be gamers that wanted desktop experience on the go. It completely fails at that. It IS portable, but not the most portable machine, nor the most powerful, and it just basically relies on looks and gimmicks to completely sell at an exorbitant price

Of course, but it also offers adquate "performance" for its pricepoint while being classy first. The Razer offers outdated gaming performance on a large sized machine, targeted at gamers. It's gaming performance and portability match 14 inch machines, while offering less capabilities and functionality.

People will buy this due to misinformation thinking that just because they get the razer, at such a high price, they will obviously play everything the way its meant to be. But I suspect buyers will hardly be real gamers, as it hardly functions as a gaming machine for the price. It's just a cool gadget/hipster machine.

It isn't targeted as the most powerful gaming laptop. It's way more insulting. It is marketed as How a gaming laptop should be. As if it was the first company to get things right.

It's Pros end at the weight and thinness. Looks are subjective (for me, it is too minimalistic and unimpressive, but so are macs for me..)

The cons are just about everything else.

With that price they are already catering to a small minority of misinformed users with no sense of value.

 

That part I agree with. I never liked laptops with 50W+ GPUs because they inevitably wind up being bulky and heavy and you'll be lucky if you can get 2 hours of battery life out them because they don't want to use switchable graphics. I will be very pleased if the physical form factor of gaming laptops moves in the Blade's direction.

Of course, Razer is hardly the first to do this. Dell and HP both have decent models (the XPS and Pavilion) which are half the price (although admittedly, nowhere near as stylish).

 

Then DON'T use 50w+ GPUs. My msi had a 3 hour battery life out of the box. and this is a 75w GPU. Luckily, newer GPUs are getting more efficient. You can find slim notebooks with decen gpus too, like envy HP series (if you want more style and slim)

As for form factors, you want all gaming to move into huge screens with slim limited form factors to end up having underpowered specs and not take advantage of the huge screen? That is why there are different screen sizes and form factors. When a 14inch machine packs the same power, but is more portable and offers more functionality for much less money, you are doing something VERY wrong.

As technology progresses, you WILL find the power to have a decent GPU with a very slim body. Of course, it will mean you will always be underpowered to equivalent available hardware.

 

I get up to 5 hours out of my machine on non flash pages.

TBH this gaming laptop on the go is also fail because nvidia enforce their low power 3d clocks when on battery.

 

And a 17incher is not exactly the most portable form factor, regardless of how slim it is.

Anyways, I'm done ranting, i'll go back to play some games and ignore razer for a while.

 

I'm a big fan of the razer mice, and I appreciated their other products like the hydra, etc. But this is just an epic fail. At 2.8k$, I could get an alienware m18x with dual 6990s. Even a MBP 17 has more ports and functionality. The only novel idea about this laptop is that it has a touch display, but is that tiny 3in screen really worth paying 2.8k? If you like the form factor, you could feasibly buy a MBP for cheap, and have enough left over to build a kick gaming desktop. And still have room to spare.

 

Well, it's being marketed as the "world's first true gaming laptop", lol. Which everyone here knows better (you better! ).
Somehow I get the feeling that Razer will lower the price given all the flak it's recieving. But would anyone even buy it at say, $2,000?

 

2kdlrs would definitely be more reasonable. I wouldn't be bashing it nearly as much.

Not that I would still get it, since its designed more about looks than performance. But 2k would be much more reasonable.

 

Yep. Although, actually, most review sites that have had a bit of time with it so far have had positive things to say about the machine itself. If you take price out of the equation, the machine isn't a bad laptop, really. Unfortunately, consumers are limited by their wallets

 

Rofl

so true yet so sad.

 

Cheap edit, but funny nonetheless. :laugh:

 

Now THAT gave me a good laugh. Bravo for linking it.

 

Ignoring the price the Blade is lust worthy. For the looks, and the nifty feature I hope makes it to other laptops/desktop. Would I get it? Only if I didn't have to deal with my wife afterward.

 

price is absolutely a no-no!

 

I'm glad that they are delving into the PC market.

Design is there. Sensible price is not.

Seems late to the game though.

 

Deus Ex: HR =)

 

The announcement was an overpriced tablet that has a 17in screen.

In all honesty however, why wouldn't you just get the M14X which is cheaper with a better graphics card?

 

I bet it won't be avilable in Norway. Like Alienware came about a year ago...

 

Hell yeah, its a nice game, on the first mission right now!

 

There wouldn't be any need for this if they took note in the first place. Customers wanted Oranges so Razer decided to give them Lemons.

 

Dont tell Cave Johnson about it then.. he will throw a fit.

Maybe this macbook hybrid is the sign of the merging of Razer, Alienware, and Mac when their powers combine they form <s>Captain Planet!</s> The Overpriced Trio!

 

LOL, very nice.