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    Razer to announce something on the 26th...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Tree_Burner, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. lloose

    lloose Notebook Guru

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    I really think that they did a good job. I am not a fan of razer at all but I really hope that some other laptop companies take notes. I actually like the touchpad where they put it and the fact that its a capacitive screen (like an iphone). Overpriced? Yeah. Cool? I think so.
     
  2. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    GPU upgradable on that thing ?
     
  3. GamingACU

    GamingACU Notebook Deity

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    Highly doubtful, they'll want you to buy a new one every year to stay competitive. Plus I bet the thing's hard as hell to take apart.
     
  4. aintz

    aintz Notebook Evangelist

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    i loled. sad sad sad, im so so impressed at razer right now. makes me ashamed using 3 of their products atm.
     
  5. GamingACU

    GamingACU Notebook Deity

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    eh, they should just stick to mice/ mouse pads.
     
  6. Bill Nye

    Bill Nye Know Nothing

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    I don't think you know what "impressed" means. You mean "depressed".
     
  7. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    Feels like blackmail, "buy these or PC gaming will die!!"

    Seriously, $3000 for a $1000 laptop, with the only major difference being a $2000 flashy keyboard and new placement of trackpad. I'm still shocked by the price; trying to make Apple look cheap.

    Dumb crap like this is what makes people say PC gaming is dead.
     
  8. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    In other news, I hear the computer accessory maker CoolerMaster is coming out with a laptop geared towards overweight PC gamers. This new laptop comes with the highly acclaimed CoolerMaster cooling fan system. These fans allow the laptop to hover and fly to the gamer by voice commands.

    Just what us PC gamers wanted ! :D


    Ya I'm just kidding.
     
  9. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I'm curious as to what you think they did well here? It's thin, not that great for gaming performance, and the touchpad is useless since almost all gamers use mice.
     
  10. aintz

    aintz Notebook Evangelist

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    i dont think you get sarcasm.

    you also dont get what words mean apparently. impressed and depressed are 2 completely unrelated words except they both end with pressed.
     
  11. Peter Bazooka

    Peter Bazooka Notebook Evangelist

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    I really like the look of the laptop but it does not have enough power to be a real gaming laptop. I mean the m14x will probably perform better. The form factor is really nice and I'm sure the battery life will be decent. But I wonder if Razer has seen the Envy 17, more power and half the price with almost the same form factor. Also a 320gb HDD on a $2800 computer?!!! what were they thinking?

    I guess this thing is all about the keyboard though and that is not worth a $1000 price hike imo. They should partner with Asus and Alienware and offer that touchpad and keys for a $250 premium on their gaming laptops. No gamers use touchpads but I bet if offered for a decent price many people would like to have it included on their gaming laptop and run it as a secondary screen.
     
  12. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    I doubt they were.

    This is an utter and complete farce.
     
  13. HTWingNut

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    It's April 1 in August!
     
  14. GamingACU

    GamingACU Notebook Deity

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    I see what you did there.
     
  15. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    Are they seriously going to charge 2,700$ for it?

    What a rip off.

    I still stick to the M11X line as being the best portable gaming system (even though the R3 has a 540m vs the Razer's 555m).

    Source:
    Razer Blade: Eyes-on With the 'Future' of PC Gaming | PCWorld

    Edit:
    The specs offered in the M14X is the same (actually a little better) than the specs in what Razer is offering. Plus, with some haggling, you can get 15-20% off the list price (or more), which starts at 1,199$ for the i7 version (+50-75$ for 900p res).
     
  16. GamingACU

    GamingACU Notebook Deity

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    Me: "I'm not sure how you can say the MBP can't compete with the Razor Blade. The HD 6750m has about the same performance as a GT555m and the MBP comes with a quadcore i7, while yours features just a dual core.
    Coming from someone who has been gaming on laptops/notebooks for the last 4 years I can honestly say that your system is way underpowered for the next gen games coming out. The blade with maybe be able to play them at medium with AA turned down. Not to mention you're running at 1080p with a mid level mobile gpu. I love your peripherals, but this thing is just not competitive in price or function."

    "Min-Liang Tan ‎@****- we worked really closely with Intel and nVidia to develop the Razer Blade - we'll be releasing benchmarks when we get the chance to and you can make your assessment from there. How's that?"
    -Developer's response to me

    Apparently according to him it sounds like they can make hardware run better than it's supposed to just by working with the companies...gl with that. :rolleyes:
     
  17. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    He almost sounds a little defensive. I know Razer has been catching a lot of flak for this "blade", but in all honesty, it is underpowered, over priced. We were led to believe it will be some new revolutionary gaming machine, but it's not. Anyone that wants to cite it's right handed touch screen, I would point out the Acer Iconia with dual touchscreens. Newegg.com - Acer Iconia-6120 Dual-Screen Touchbook Intel Core i5 480M(2.66GHz) 14" 4GB Memory 640GB HDD 5400rpm Intel HD Graphics
     
  18. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    Wow. Guy doesn't even understand how hardware works.
     
  19. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wonder if they will make Razer exclusive versions of games. Maybe Razer will just act as another console where a game will only work if it is a stripped down Razer versions that is optimized for it's hardware.

    I sure hope not.
     
  20. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    lol! :twitchy:
     
  22. Burnt

    Burnt Notebook Consultant

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    they doomed themselves to failure when they decided on their slogans for the blade
     
  23. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Someone very observant noticed that it's a gaming laptop with no optical drive. Hehe.
     
  24. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    If Razer's idea of proving to me PC Gaming is alive and they have revolutionary hardware is a... Coffee Table decoration that looks like a MAC with a GT 555M? PC GAMING IS DOOMED!

    I also noticed there was no mention about the cooling system on their demonstration. I want to see under the hood and know that it's not going to fry my balls.
     
  25. funky monk

    funky monk Notebook Deity

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    Probably not gonna happen. They might try putting things like SLIC tables into their BIOS but that can be patched. Short of making completely new hardware and things like that it's not gonna be possible without major loopholes.

    I also wish laptop manufactures would spend a good few million on research into cooling. That way they might be able to run their componants properly without them either throttling or hitting 90*C.
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Wow they put the equivalent of a desktop GT430 in there and call it a gaming machine?

    EDIT: BTW I never see 90C =) The most I ever see is 82C at stupid BBQ stress test settings.
     
  27. Hungry Man

    Hungry Man Notebook Virtuoso

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    Disappointing and gimmicky.
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I'd like to point out for that money you could buy:

    A decently powerful desktop.
    A decently powerful notebook.
    AMD fusion based netbook.

    And have the right machine for any circumstance!
     
  29. funky monk

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    A few laptops have adequate cooling systems but even sagers have been brought to their knees by the new 6990m. The amount of people who have laptops which run too hot is astounding. There's also the fact that while the silicon can stand such high heat, the solder will inevitably fail from the stress cycles caused by the high temperatures.
     
  30. AlienTroll

    AlienTroll Notebook Evangelist

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    Razer's Switchblade will ultimately fail.

    2,000+ USD? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAAYYY!!!

    I can get my dream computer for that price! Razer, go out of your office and have a huge breath.

    Razer is now my most hated company next to Ubisoft :rolleyes:
    Razer just proved that PC gaming is dying due to console PCs.
     
  31. Pluberus

    Pluberus Notebook Evangelist

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    Someone needs to start a company that produces decent console priced PCs that can game at console levels (30+ fps on low-mid settings). If I had the money, I'd do it myself. >.>
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    There are loads of laptops around like that, just look at the first ones with dedicated graphics.
     
  33. GamingACU

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    im also pretty sure there are tons of websites that sell decent ~$500 "gamingish" desktop pcs.
     
  34. 408Cali

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    For those of you who don't know where to look for this:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...r-announce-something-26th-11.html#post7856086

    Merry christmas.




    Also, I can't believe the specs on that thing... I'm sorry but that's more overpriced than alienware! And that's saying something. Who cares about a gimmicky touch screen that will probably get hot and unresponsive during intense gaming use.. If you have 3k to spend on an overpriced laptop, definitely go with an alienware M18x... You can get a MUCH better graphics card, plus freaking 3D capability and just all around better everything. Portable my A$$ lmao razer just go kill yourself now.
     
  35. fred2028

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    $2800 for a laptop with a GeForce GT 555m and a dual core i7? Come on ... That's floating around the same specs as my laptop for over double the price. I mean sure, a thin laptop with a controversially innovative touchpad is worth some premium, but for over double the price? If this were a true gaming laptop, I'd expect at least a 570m or 6870m in a 17" form factor. This could at most be a good multimedia laptop with gaming capabilities.
     
  36. micman

    micman Notebook Evangelist

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    They're going to pull a "switcheroo" on us and swap in the 6990 and quad i7 right before shipping them to our doorsteps! And it comes with a free tablet?

    ^^^^^^all lies and completely made up
     
  37. LaptopNut

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    After taking a closer look at the ditchblade, I see missed potential. I just don't understand why companies keep on getting it wrong, it is like they completely ignore all common sense, logic and the views of their potential market. The people want a standardized upgradeable gaming laptop so they release an overpriced, under powered pile of unworthy plastic and have the nerve to call it a gaming laptop?

    I honestly think that the only way to get a real gaming laptop is for everyone on the NBR forums to join together as one big company to design and release one.

    The switchblade is like a beautiful chocolate teapot, nice to look at but it just won't do.
     
  38. funky monk

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    Do they even do surveys for these kind of things?
     
  39. V_Chip

    V_Chip Be about it.

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    It looks too much like a Macbook..
     
  40. Hungry Man

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    That's the only good thing about it...

    the problem is the huge premium so that you can have some LED thing where my right hand goes. Take out that second screen, add a 2630QM, take the price down 400 dollars, and you have yourself a really great laptop.
     
  41. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    Anything over 1.6~1.8k (even with novelty and brand considered) is overpriced even if you make the CPU quad-core.
     
  42. HTWingNut

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    With those specs even with the new doohickeys on it, less than $1500 with a quad. For that kind of coin, users usually want to get a solid two years or more out of their laptop. Those specs won't cut it.

    I think when they started with the design they said "let's make the thinnest and lightest 17" laptop we can make, and throw in our LCD button technology" And then just threw in whatever fit. It's essentially an M11x R3 but with a 555m instead of the 540m, seriously.
     
  43. nikolai090

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    I lol'd at the price, you could buy 4 consoles with that, or an extremely powerful alienware/sager with that. A great failure on razer.

    EDIT: You could buy a decent car in my country for that thing.
     
  44. shinakuma9

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    How does this un-kill PC gaming?

    Also this is going to BOMB hard.
     
  45. MidnightSun

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    Frankly, although I agree that it's most definitely not the solution to "resurrect" PC gaming, I'm a bit surprised that no one has anything positive to say about the Blade. I actually rather like the muted design cues: it looks better than any Alienware and most Asus gaming laptops, and there are some good ideas in there.

    Yes, it's overpriced. Yes, it isn't really comparable performance-wise to "true" gaming notebooks from Sager/Clevo/Alienware/etc, but I think its thin, attractive looks aren't bad. If they can get the price down a bit more, it'll be comparable to the MBP17, which I think is much more of a competitor than say, a Sager.

    Bottom line: will I buy it? No. Will most "true" gamers buy it? No. But is it a product without merit? I don't think so, and as the halo product that it is, I think the Blade is an interesting entry.
     
  46. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

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    I like the physical form of the Blade. I'm sad for its lack of ports other than USB/Video. I like my options. For less $, I can get a higher spec'd Alienware that can be connected to virtually anything.
     
  47. cobrien

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    Consumers accept that gaming laptops are big, heavy and not that portable so the manufacturers have no reason to change the game. Hopefully this opens the door to a new line of gaming laptops that might not play everything on ultra, but have decent power in a package thats actually portable. You cannot honestly expect something thats .88" thick to have the same power as something thats more than 3x thicker.

    The price seems a little high, but its not uncommon for manufacturers to release things at an ultra high cost to try and recoup some of the development costs from the rich first adopters, then drop the price later allowing it to become more mainstream. People spend $3k on 17" mbps, why not on this? It looks much cooler if you ask me and I prefer windows anyways.

    I don't think its a complete miss, maybe not a complete win either, but I definitely like the direction they are pointing in.
     
  48. cobrien

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    They are going for portability here, an mx17 can't compete there. I could build a desktop that would blow away any alienware system for the same price, but it would be less portable than the alienware. ;)
     
  49. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

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    I understand. I just want to see more ports.
     
  50. cobrien

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    Well hopefully they take note and there's a second version that includes changes based on consumer feedback.
     
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