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    Starcraft II Tips

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Duster73, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. Simon

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    Sorry about the game where I dced/crashed.
     
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    Lol it's fine. We lost anyway :p

    I had to control your warpgates and your score ended up being higher than mine >:0

    I forgot to build pylons for you and your army warp ins comes from my resource bank ._. I wonder how they split mined minerals for leavers
     
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    I don't get why you would have to build psi fir leavers if they are of the same race. :/
     
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    lol yeah. It doesn't even show your psi either :p I didn't know you were supply blocked
     
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    Well, Starcraft only went through one patch so far. Can't wait until it is fully patched up. :)
    I find it hard to control all my units while making more at the same time. I think I need to build some defence early game also.
     
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    Heh I have the same problem with you :) Don't worry you're not alone

    I'd have to say... I would not want to 1v1 farful :( He's so aggressive early game it scares me
     
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    He's in diamond, ain't he? His DTs scared me. :0
     
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    I dunno i think he is :(

    I'm unranked :D
     
  9. Simon

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    Let's start working on our ranks. :)
    Should I horribly commentate on the replays I have ? :D
     
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    I don't see how that works. all of your tech structures will be at your main. or at least some of them.

    it's the low-level bronze opponents you're facing, tbh. any basic timing push will force an instant GG, as that kind of spread out early expanding means you don't have the forces to deal with a 25-30 supply push. or even an early rush.

    edit: for some reason, I clicked on this thread and it opened page 117 instead of the last page. the above comment was with regard to some bronze guy's strategy of opening, setting up minimal defenses at his main, then fast-expanding to gold. sounded like a fail and a half.
     
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    Lol, one thing I learned about doing a Protoss 4gate - don't do it with half a heart. It won't work. Either you go all the way, or you don't. Don't build 3 gates and assume you can quick tech to robo, or something.


    *Replace all "you" with "jeremyshaw"... :p........... . ... ... ... . . . ... . :(
     
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    All that can be done off of one gas? I guess I have been doing it wrong, then... :( I didn't know gas was to be aquired so early! Thank you very much! :)
     
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    I'm watching the replays of me and farful playing against random people :p I love the double zergling rush xD
     
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    Yikes tons of posts!

    I'd suggest you start now. You seemed to know pretty much what you're doing. At your level, I think practice matches could hurt you as the rocks create a fake sense of security you normally don't have and the game speed is normal.

    You definitely whooped me. Lots of things to learn about 4gating I never knew about I guess. Like who knew 20 probes was too much? :p The game I think was determined once you flanked me. I should probably watch it again. Sorry I had to leave early :(

    When a player (Divine in this case) leaves, then the resources he gets with his probes are split between the remaining players. We could choose to build for him if you wanted, but I think? normally people just use that extra income to build more of their own stuff.

    I loved the one where I 4gated and died horribly.

    That was my second favorite game last night! I barely did anything that game; you and Reizo basically killed them :)
     
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    Oh wow he replied to all of them :p
     
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    farful Notebook Evangelist

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    Pfffft I only replied to five posts from the last four pages.

    I should also include the highlight of last night for me: I got the achievement for killing 40 units with a single unit last night! All because Reizo died and had nothing better to do than control my one lone banshee. Catching up to Vicious' 3000+ achievement points!
     
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    does farful still die to 6pool?
     
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    Probably.

    For those starting out and don't know what 6pool is: http://i.imgur.com/2UL9H.jpg
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    ROFL. Nice. Watch... some n00b's gonna do that now and complain about it not working :p
     
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    With all the fuss about 1.2 is creating a funny video was released,

    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nW1bVAtiTvM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nW1bVAtiTvM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='640' height="385"></embed></object>
     
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    That's the one I frapsed!
    I guess I'll start trying ranked now. :D
    Going to upload that vid later. :D
     
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    I don't know what units would counter what units. :/
     
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    Check the SC2 website here. Scroll down a bit and you'll see a description of what the units good and weak against as well as basic strategies for each race on how to deal with them.
     
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    Lets teach the newbies the 4-gate too why don't we?

    [​IMG]

    Well sorry my ally on my side disconnected and it was a double terran attacking me together with a huge mob of zerglings :(

    You were lagging anyway :p I took control of your helions too if you didn't notice
     
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    <width='640' height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/C1nm6xSNAwE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/C1nm6xSNAwE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='640' height="385"></embed></object>

    Here's the second game Reizo, farful, and I played.
    Please excuse the quality.
    This is in my perspective, so it wasn't recorded off the replay.
    And yes, I am horrible. :D
     
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    Ah the Typhon map :p I thought i'd be the first to die there

    Woah is that how SC2 looks on the lowest possible settings? ._. Looks way different compared to mine

    How are you recording it? Fraps?
     
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    I frapsed it then compressed it at 300 bitrate kbps with virtualdub on xvid codec, audio is mpeg-4. That's not really how it look likes on lowest possible settings. :/ It did go from a 14gb file to a 250mb file...
    After watching back on this vid, I need to learn how to use hotkeys. :3
     
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    :D Ah~

    Lemme buy fraps now and record the replay of that game from my POV this time :3
     
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    I can record your POV if you want. :eek:
     
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    Hm... It seems to split the videos :( How do you record it all in one video?

    And woah huge file size o.o You're using virtualdub to compress it?

    I need to learn these things so i can record future games :D
     
  32. Simon

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    It splits the files for me also. In vdub, you would append the files together than compress it under whatever codec you want.
     
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    GRAWR I don't see divx for virtualdub >:[

    I see the appending though :D
     
  34. Simon

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    For the compressing, you would go to... Video -> Compress OR CTRL + P and choose the xvid codec. The 32 bit VDub is better at locating codecs cause normally codecs are 32 bit? I believe. The 64 bit VDub uses 64 bit codecs. :eek:
    And since I have K-Lite Media Codec Pack (32 bit) I have to use the 32 bit vdub.

    For audio, go to audio, change it to full processing mode, then compress to mpeg.
     
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    There's no xvid codec on the list for videos :( Might be my codec pack... Hm... Lemme look into it some more

    -om nom nom- Eating stupid comments is yummy too
     
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    Probably your codec pack? I have no idea. Sorry!
    We should play more more today with farful :3 if you guys aren't busy.
     
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    Bleh my Audio only goes up to MPEG-3 >:[

    And sure :p

    ... How do you start compressing it? ._.
     
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    Audio is supposed to be MPEG-3.
    Video is xvid.
    You start the compression by saving it as an avi. :eek:
     
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    lol... this makes me NOT want to upload a my POV battle (m11x) on SC2...


    I recorded with a Sony HD cam earlier today, and that was it.

    (you get to see how silly [not in a good, or funny sense] Bronze level play is...)

    EDIT: my other vid, nothing fancy...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eba9yYv4rWk

    EDIT: for the reencoding of FRAPS, I use windows media encoder, or handbrake.
     
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    Ah :D It's processing. Thanks Divine :3

    I'll upload it soon :p You'll see how equally bad I am :)

    Wait, how do you compress it at 300 bitrate kbps thingy ._.

    Seems that my vid will still be a huge file size >:[
     
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    Ignore it. Just let it upload, youtube will do it's own wierd thing to it. I upload my stuff as full AVCHD and about 1GB in size for 10min of 1080i video :p


    I don't really care, as I just let it upload over an hour or so.
     
  42. Simon

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    Oh, on the compression menu, you can have... configure the settings. So you click target rate so it will switch to target bitrate (if not auto set) and put 300. :eek:
     
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    Too late, uploading :p

    2 hours ._. I'm gonna go watch paint dry it's more fun
     
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    Funny... I just finished painting a small modification to my computer alcove :)
     
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    I'm behind you :p

    DUN DUN DUNNN

    And I have the game speed at x2 for the video ._. Didn't want to go past 15minutes :p
     
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    Oh, why not? :/
     
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    Youtube won't let you upload videos more than 15 minutes in length >:[

    Oh, I'll be around for SC2 in... an hour or two :p
     
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    And in two more posts, you will be.....? :)
     
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    ahhhh! noooo

    You should encode video with H264, and Audio with AAC they are so much better than old school xvid/divx and mp3

    The last video I did was like 10 minutes long 1080p and was only 345mb and was the same quality visually as the loseless raw fraps recording.
     
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    slight reasoning behind that, is Youtube HD uses h264. 25fps, and upto 4mb bitrate, iirc.

    EDIT: which brings us back to handbrake :)
     
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