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    System requirements released for Star Wars Battlefront

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Ethrem, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    True, but even 970 SLI was pretty good when I first got it. Might be psychological, but it really wasn't until after the 3.5GB ram issue that SLI just started going downhill.
     
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    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Runs pretty well on my 7970m crossfire. Amd should finally release some actual drivers though. Game suffers from some graphical glitches and hick ups.


    Still gorgeous though !
     
  3. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    I'd say somewhere around mid 2014 is when I can look back and see issues starting with games, (around watchdogs' time) but it's the majority of 2015 titles that have had the real issues (which is of course after RAMgate)
     
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    I'd argue the actual perceivable difference is smaller than that. In SLI, the FPS counter is a lie because of microstutter. Playing the same game at 60 FPS with a 980M actually feels smoother to me than 100 FPS (on a 100Hz screen) with 650M SLI. o_O
     
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    Scanner Notebook Deity

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    Ahh, got it to run. I had to reinstall Origin. Graphics looks good, my wireless 360 controller works right out the box. This is my 1st Star Wars game, so I'll use this demo to get use to it. I always wondered why AAA titles really stopped doing demos. Oh, can anyone tell me why my OSD says I'm getting 200fps while playing :eek:
     
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    SWBF is filled with the same hit detection BS. Running behind someone who is not facing me and grilling them with laser blasts, they just keep on running, turn around and pew pew and I'm dead and they have 70-100% health.
     
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    I've seen some of that, but I don't know what the hell my ping is. Last night I had amazing hitreg. Today I did not when I checked earlier.
     
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    Yeah, lack of ping shown does suck. Then again, this is beta, and this *IS* Star Wars. I mean all it takes is a warm body to be a Storm Trooper and aiming not required, lol.
     
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    Man I wanted to play last night but I was buggered. I'm still only level 4 and want that jet pack. I must have it.
    Hit detection seemed good when I played it the other day. When's this Beta end anyway?
     
  10. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    LOL

     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Ahahaha... That is pure gold. Lol
     
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    FWIW here's 15 minutes gameplay on GTX 980 Ti wiith i7-5820k at 2560x1440.
     
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    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    My shots seem to be hitting just fine. Not sure what my ping is, but I have not experienced any lag or netcode issues.

    I was laughing my ass off, not at all expecting that!
     
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    Here I am killed by Vader and Luke. Still haven't found those power ups to try myself. :(

     
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    Air Combat is hilariously broken and easy.
    Managed to make the BF4 Spawn worse by doing that 5 sec intro.


    Why easy?
    It is because during that 5 secs intro lock, you already in the combat zone.
    You can die during that intro.(I admit I totalllly took advantage of this ;))
    It doesn't take a genius to figure out to camp the spawn.

    Auto-Aim ... seriously? (At least you get a nice warning of someone using it)
    Very short effective range (Which makes the TIE fighter the best craft until the A-Wing which they kindly reminds me why I hate them)
    The controls will automatically pull up to level across the horizon which make aiming down difficult
    There is no mid air collision with friendlies ... ie you can't trick them to crash each other.
    Active Radar ... Easier to Aim with ... Deals Higher Damage (~70%) with a slight mobility hit
    Their fixed powerup coin locations are in a heavily contested area which make spawn camping so much easier once you get air superiority. (Very likely your opponent will spawn one by one)
    Earn cooldown powerup the longer your kill streak goes (Pointless as everyone dies in 3 shots.)
    Using the evasive skill to grant temp god so you can ram others is funny. (Reason why I always charge head on now hehe)

    .... Still more fun than the Stealth Jet Role in BF4
     
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    Interesting, looks like Battlefront is the first game to support Dolby Atmos. Probably more relevant for console gamers as I doubt many PC gamers who are not home theater buffs have an Atmos preamp/AVR and surround speakers, but gotta give props to DICE for the sound design in their games which is always top-notch.
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    My 960M plays this at 40-45 FPS on Auto settings. Much better than I thought it would be, lol.
     
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    sa7ina Notebook Consultant

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    trey22 Notebook Consultant

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    My poor 560m gets 28-30 FPS w/ everything set to Low/Off. Time for an upgrade!

    Would a 970m get me 60+ FPS on High or Ultra?
     
  20. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I get between 60 and 100fps maxed out, vsync on, but it does not seem to properly work with SLI as I have one GPU at 100% utilization and the other at around 46%.

    All in all it does not work up my system as much, but my minimum fps seem to be 60 so it's alright.
     
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    Works with SLI for me with much flickering. I usually hover in the 70s to 80s with everything maxed and stock 780Ms.
     
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    Hmm, just learned it's an open beta and downloaded it to try, thought perhaps it might run if I reduce resolution.

    Unfortunately, looks like the game won't even start if you have less than 2GB VRAM, is that right? For me it launches and then when I press "Enter" to start, the screen goes pink and it crashes. Maybe I can lower settings in config file to get it to start?

    Battlefield Hardline seemed to run OK on the same laptop.

    EDIT: this is the error I'm getting https://community.amd.com/thread/189852

    [​IMG]

    EDIT: Tried updating to the 15.9.1 beta driver and it still crashes. It seems you have to try to skip past the first two screens and quickly change the settings to Windowed mode. Is there a way to adjust some user settings file to force it to launch in windowed mode?
     
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    Managed to get it working OK, just had to press Alt+Enter after launch to force Windowed mode.
     
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    On my Optimus laptop I can't get the game to run at lower than native resolution otherwise it runs in a window unless I change desktop resolution to lower resolution.
     
  25. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    When are you upgrading man? Skylake is out and still holding onto that ancient piece of hardware lol.. Waiting for the P870DM now are you?
     
  26. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Maybe he's waiting for the Skylake-E version of P570WM. :D

    Well I know I am. Even though Skylake by itself is somewhat of a disappointment, compared to Ivy Bridge it still offers about 20% IPC increase, and does show notable improvement in CPU bound games (mainly RTS and MMOs) as well as GTA V. Since node shrinks are just going to get harder and more expensive, Skylake will probably be like the 14nm of Sandy Bridge. Nowhere near as great as Sandy obviously, but should still have good longevity.
     
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    Surprisingly, this game scales down really well for weaker PCs. Wish more games would include Resolution Scale setting that allows you to go all the way from 1% to 200%.

    Ooh, that would be so sweet, but not going to hold my breath!

    Waiting to check some reviews of the new laptops with GTX 980 and whether there will be MXM version that might fit in a smaller laptop.
     
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  28. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I can't run it full-screen for some reason. No idea why. It flashes and whatnot like it's trying to go full-screen, but never does.

    Borderless windowed mode is the next best thing.
     
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    Assuming you have Optimus? It's an Intel driver issue. Been an Intel driver issue and they sometimes fix it with a driver update, but it gets lost again with further driver updates. It's ok if you can run at LCD native resolution and run as Borderless Window, but if you want to run at 720p on 1080p you have no option but to play in window or adjust desktop resolution to whatever in-game resolution you want to play at.
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah, think you're right on the money there. It must be Intel related. Hope they release something.
     
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    Just tried the Beta, started and ran great... they really nailed the atmosphere of the Star Wars world imo. Fun game!
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Game was ok.. I wish they allowed you to try one of the space modes....I really wanted to play the fighter one...
     
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    There is no space mode...
     
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    Now there is no beta... closed down until release. Fun while it lasted. T
     
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    I finally got a Darth Vader power up. I was all excited, but lasted only about 20 seconds. Not sure what this dude was shooting me with but I died awfully quickly. Where if I shoot a hero it takes a hundred shots to even dent them.



    And what!? Beta already over with? That was quick.
     
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    I had this problem during summer with an external monitor while trying to play Witcher 3 with 1600 x 900 and the external monitor's native resolution was Full HD. After some googling i found Intel's support forum which had a solution for this, it was a driver update and after installing it was able to make the necessary adjustments to the screen's scaling which fixed the problem.

    Unfortunately i don't have the links anymore... Also i sold that computer a couple months ago so i can't comment on newer drivers creating the problem again.
     
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    Because it was never really a "beta". It was a "demo". They're done with the game except bugfixes. The walker assault needing nerfing was probably unprecedented to them, and that's going to be a special case, but that game has been printing copies for consoles weeks ago. It was only meant to be four days long so people could get a taste of the action. Twitch people and people with connections got early keys, and the demo was extended for an extra day, making it seem like it was pretty long. But it really wasn't.
     
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    Yeah the Walker Assault was bad. Unless everyone was concentrating fire with every available mounted turret there was no way to win. Only time I was on a map when rebel's won was when the team balance was like 16 v 10.
     
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    The map balance was pretty poor on either side.

    The Imperials can basically play TDM while the Rebels does the Imperial Objectives for them.
    Yet it takes 4 Rebels with half a brain work together as a group to instantly win the match under 8 minutes from match start.

    On the Bright side, those AT-AT have weak spots that allows you deal more damage.
    Don't know how much ... just notices the points comes in at a much faster pace.

    The missile on the X-Wing deal 30 points on leg (5%?)
    A-Wings deals more damage with their laser ... I get 120 points for each full burst.
    Snowspeeders instant kill them though it takes 2-3 Y-Wings per AT-AT provided that those Y-Wings don't get shot down.
    (It is possible end that phase earlier by killing the Y-Wings before they drop their payload)
     
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    Meh, the flight is as borked as every other DICE game. Arcade and twitchy. I found little fun in flying any of the aircraft. Only aircraft I like in BF3/4 were the choppers. Airplanes were just rapid transport to another location.
     
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Well considering that it runs 60 FPS on the PS4 with almost no deviation below from the review I saw that measured it, it will definitely be AMD optimized.
     
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    Yeah. I honestly don't care even that they're doing this. This will only mean things will end up better for us.
     
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    I think AMD is about to make their move. They've positioned themselves exactly where they need to be to take on nVidia since game devs tend to code for the consoles first these days... That means that code optimization will cross over to the PC releases as well. AMD is going to stomp nVidia if they start pushing console devs to put GCN's significant advantage in parallelism to work.
     
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    well that can hardly be done with DX11. But there will be some advantages. I also agree, it's time for AMD to start playing their strengths more. Code optimization on PC is absolutely terrible, and most games are showing this. BO3, Fallout 4, Dying Light, GTA V... they all use way way way too much out of PCs than should ever be necessary. And when they're delayed before launch and still end up with terrible terrible bugs and optimization issues, it just means the delay was pointless.
     
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    I think you're giving AMD too much credit. They aren't in a position where they carefully crafted a long-game strategy, and are now ready to reap the benefits.

    AMD has been an absolute mess the past few years. Their CPUs can't compete with Intel on the high-end. Their GPUs trade blows with nVidia, and neither company is a clear dominant winner with better products. They've gone through a lot of leadership changes in the past few years. They recently went through a re-org that split their CPU and GPU business. They have been bleeding money for the past several years, and operating at a loss. They aren't in a position where they can take short-term losses to play out the long-game. If anything, they are barely holding on.
     
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    I think this game is quite hilarious... I cant take it seriously after last night when taking a few shots of tequila and coming upon this in mid-game.
     
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    So many hackers... wtf. I'm hiding behind a 20 ft wide tree and get killed half way across the map. So many times one hit kills with same gun I'm using but takes 20 hits to do anything.
     
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    <snip back to all BF4 comments lol> :p
     
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