TES V: Skyrim Discussion Thread

Your opinion is noted. I happen to think it's slow and boring.

 

So overall... which skills do you guys think perks are worth investing in? I'm currently playing as a two-handed hammer Nord male and so far I've invested in smiting, heavy armor, block, two-handed.

Are there any ways you can reset your perks? (invested)

 

You can do it with console commands, but there's no other way. If you're doing two handed, block is probably a waste.

 

Actually, it is not a waste. The block perk tree works in the same way as the smiting perk tree... perks on the right side of the tree work for two handed weapons as well (except for shield charge).

Will the game be affected in any way if I reset perks with console commands?

 

Add Enchanting, Alchemy, and Archery to that list.

Nope, game won't be affected. You might have to restart to get Steam achievements, but they should still work fine.

 

I only use potions for Health, Stamina, and Magicka. Consuming potions for buffs makes the game easier--which is already easy.

 

Some general thoughts on Skyrim, if anyone's interested:

I bought Skyrim and was initially very disappointed with it. It seemed that most of the immediately noticeable improvements on Oblivion were really fixing things which had been utterly broken before the modding community stepped up to the plate.

That being said, I put around 60 hours into it (80% of the main quest; College of Winterhold; Dark Brotherhood). Some of the scenery is quite spectacular and I quite liked the level-up system. My intial disappointment was mostly gone and I was having a lot of fun.

But now I've not played for a month, and I can't say that I'm feeling particularly inclined to go back. Here are some of the reasons for my reluctance:

I found with both Skyrim and Oblivion that the biggest flaw was that the 'go anywhere, do anything' ambitions of the game just led to a lot of rather direction-less dungeon crawling. And unlike classic dungeon-crawlers of the Diablo 2 mould the fact that crafted gear puts nearly all the 'unique' items to shame means that the rewards are very rarely worth the effort.

Baldur's Gate 2 is, IMO, probably the finest CRPG made [*flamesuit* I've not played Planescape Torment]. Obviously it's a totally different experience to something like Skyrim, but one feature I'd highlight is that the overarching narrative gives you at least two occasions in which your character has clear motivation to seek out sidequests (you need to raise money to pay for information on the whereabouts of your sister, and you need to gather allies for an assault on a vampire stronghold).

Wheras Skyrim (again, like Oblivion before it) can be a horribly disjointed affair when the all-powerful dragonborn finds himself putting the fate of the nation aside to make amendments for a night of heavy-drinking gone wrong. And I got more use out of the reward from one of these silly sidequests than practically anything I during the main arc.

Some of the additions had a lot of promise, but were either sacrificed to meet development deadlines or otherwise fell short of real excellence.

Stealth is a viable gameplay mechanic, but it also invites a really cheesy playstyle and is marred by a lack of dedicated animations and like the non-lethal takedowns from Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

Two-handed magic could have led to a Magicka-style elemental system in which spells would interact with one another in a rule-governed but not necessarily predictable fashion to produce some truly emergent gameplay.

And whereas you can set light to pools of flammable oil, the options to freeze liquids, or electrocute large groups of enemies in the presence of water were, I felt, conspicuously missing.

The lack of strong plot, strong characters and truly outstanding or innovative gameplay mechanics are the difference for me. It's huge. It looks great. And it's got a strong sense of background lore (especially if you've played earlier games in the series). But in 5 years time when Skyrim starts to look rather shabby around the edges, it probably won't have enough to draw me back in, unlike BG2.

 

anyone has a clue if I can actually run this on my early 2010 macbook pro (15' , 2,66 GHz i7 , 4gb ram , NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M )

Would love to try it out, but I kind of fear to just lag around in Skyrim and not be able to actually explore the world.

 

The game will run, but you should not expect more than medium settings for fluid gameplay... just play around with the settings.

 

Comparing BG to an Elder Scrolls game is like comparing Halo to Grand Theft Auto. Same genre? Sort of, but there's really no reasonable comparison to be made.

Regardless of whether or not they work, I still think it's a waste. YMMV.

 

/shrug

BG2 and indeed the whole series was not without flaw.
Who could forget the really busted modded AD&D ruleset where certain combos were untouchable gods?

Also, Skyrim unfolds as you play whereas your fate in BG2 is pretty much laid out for you.

Skyrim is a MUCH deeper game with much more realistic series of events paired to your actions.

Honestly, the fact that your character gets sidetracked as in your example is more like reality than the "you should go sidequest now" GM-hint rails of BG2. It's also better storytelling...

I can't remember the last time I went searching for a life-changing event and it actually happened as planned...

While Skyrim most certainly has its flaws, I think someone is looking at the past with rosy-colored glasses. As much as I liked BG2, I do not ever play it now.

 

I agree, I loved BG2 too but I do not fall for the nostalgia effect so easily. Skyrim is a different kind of game entirely and in my honest opinion superior to BG2 in what it tries to accomplish. Still I wouldn't mind if some company came out with a CRPG like BG2 sometime in the future.

 

I know that there is a ton of mods for this game but where can I find a list of must have mods for Skyrim (textures, maps, anything that makes the game better)?

 

well you could go to the nexus mod site and look at the top 100 most endorsed mods im sure thats should be a big indicator.haven tplayed in a while but i think the creation kit is still yet to be rreleased so still waiting on that


but regardless.

GameSpot Guide to Modding Skyrim - GameSpot.com

Top 10 Best Skyrim Mods | GameFront

Top Ten Mods for Skyrim - Features - Hooked Gamers

 

double post....

 

Thank you!

 

I use quite a few of high-res texture mods on Skyrim Nexus. Beyond that, I use the FXAA injector, TESV acceleration layer, Realistic Water, and SkyUI. For the TESV mod and SkyUI you'll need to use SKSE (script extender).

 

Skyboost eliminates the need for SKSE and it is at times better than SkyUI.

 

Thanks for the heads up. Will try!

 

Skyboost is great, I use it in accordance with SkyUI though. SkyUI, does not do anything to performance, it is mainly for container categorization. Are you getting confused with TESV acceleration layar?

 

Nothing beats the macho dragon mod.

(Skyrim) Macho Dragon Mod - YouTube

 

lmao, win.

 

Was funny at first but got old after I heard the exact same "yeah" for the 12th time in a row.

 

New Video guys and girls!

Skyrim Ultra+2k Textures+Other Realism Mods+Pics in the description below - YouTube

and some in-game Screenshots to show the real level of detail (camera recording does not give true justice to graphics) starring of course, Andros the Redguard

ImageShack Album - 13 images

 

I have a couple of Skyrim videos up myself. Probably will record another one a bit later today.

Let's Play Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - YouTube

 

yep I just posted some videos last night with some pretty kickass mods, check them out.. youtube name is Fictorie10... I was looking for another game to play but Skyrim won't let me go that easy.. Just when I thought my character was enough and I felt like I had beaten the game, nope there's all these dungeons I gotta clear and do all these quests, So I'm kinda enjoying it again, that and I haven't played like a madman like when I started

 

Not a Skyrim related but my Intel Core i5 is running at 82 degrees max while playing. Should I be worried?

 

I dont think you need to worry about that.
Since Skyrim only uses two threads your i5 is probably shutting down the hyperthreaded cores and turbo boosting on the two remaining logical cores.

 

82c on the CPU?? Thats not good.

Its not going to kill the cpu but generally in the 60's is a target temp for a cpu and that is under full load via stress test, if your hitting 80s just from gaming then your machine would probably over heat in a stress test.

So something is probably wrong like clogged vents, dust buildup, or poor TIM installation and connection.

 

Video does more justice than screenshots IMO see more, see it in motion, to really do a great comparison you do a before/after screenshot/video of the same scene via a script.

If you mean camcorder footage then yeah I agree its pretty tough to get any really quality recording.

 

What software is good to test it again other than playing the game? I can't really see the temperature while playing the game.

 

Not necessarily. Intel seems confident that Sandy Bridge can withstand 90+C for prolonged periods of time. When I first got my HP dv6t, I stress tested it (this was last July so the ambient temperatures were 30+C) and Turbo Boost would consistently drive the temps up beyond 90C. I don't particularly need it under Windows so I disabled it, but I'm fairly confident the high CPU temps are a feature rather than a problem.

Now, if you disable Turbo and it's still hitting those temperatures, then yes, something is probably wrong.

 

Regardless of what game I play, including Skyrim for long periods of time, my SB CPU never goes beyond 67C. The main reason why that CPU hits 82C is down to a less than efficient cooling system, it is not a feature or anything to do with Turbo Boost. Put that exact same CPU into a chassis with a better designed cooling system and you would not be getting such temperatures. Even when my ambient temps have been near 30C, it was never anywhere near 82C CPU temps.

 

You are missing the point. Yes, if you give the CPU the cooling typically found in desktop replacement monstrosities, Turbo Boost will be constrained by parameters other than temperature, but this has little to do with what I was saying. The question I was trying to address is this: if the CPU is constrained by temperature, how high is Intel willing to push it before Turbo Boost is throttled to prevent overheating? The answer to that question is "pretty darn high."

 

Yes that's true and I do get that point

 

Just made this one last night Skyrim Epic Dragon Fight! - YouTube watch it in 720p, enjoy

 

I just noticed that a Skyrim Beta Patch 1.4 has been released. Use at your own risk of course. Details here. Some one mentioned seeing a new mod download menu too. If you are not sure how to opt into beta downloads, check here.

 

Finally some bug fixes, and i would guess PS3 owners will be happy too.

 

I wonder if

Will fix the house bug too...

 

no u shouldnt be worried, unless it hits +94C

as somebody else already said, sandy bridge CPUs are designed to withstand really hot temperatures

 

Liking this new patch, still get those random crashes though, although I have found out that it must be from one of my mods. I tested the game with all mods disabled and had no crash that would always happen in one specific spot. Gonna be a hassle figuring out which mod causes it

 

I had a similar issue. The easiest way to identify the mod causing it is to disable all of the major mods and use Nexus modmanager to re enable and disable on each play test. Also bare in mind that the new patch may not be compatible with the current mods, I can't remember if that was only the case for the performance increase mods or all of them.

 

Andros, I have used a lot of mods and if you post what you are using I might be able to give you a heads up.

 

Thanks, but I already solved the problem by changing load orders with a little program called BOSS on tesnexus.

 

So, where's that Creation Kit, that's supposed to be released by the end of January? I believe today is the 31st. I'd say they're running out of time quickly, to meet that date they've given.

 

Just last week - or was it two weeks ago? - they released a statement saying that they were still trying for a January release, didn't they?

:'(

 

I've seen a good example until now that there are a lot of people out there who are going to do amazing things with the Creation Engine when it'll come out. I just can't wait... think of all the stuff they managed to do without it. I expect some mind blowing stuff, really.

 

You know what mod I really want? I'd like a true first person perspective. I'd like to be able to see my shadows when in first person, and I'd like to be able to look down and see my body. There's already an early alpha mod on skyrimnexus.com, but it's REALLY buggy/glitchy at this point. I'm no modder so, I'm no help. Wish those guys luck in making it work!!!

Sounds petty, and I guess it is but, I really hate how many games seem to simulate a perspective where we are basically just a floating camera, with arms/weapons.

Couldn't be asking for all that much...

 

Yea Crysis 2 with an HUD mod that eliminated most unnecessary display items looked amazing in first person view with stereo 3d on my 120 inch projection screen... almost like you were really there

This game in stereo 3d gives an amazing feel as well, but lacks that self body awareness that you are talking about.

 

Must be coming soon as they have released a preview video today.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Creation Kit & Skyrim Workshop Preview - YouTube

Looks very cool.