TES V: Skyrim Discussion Thread

Wow, nice graphics.

I will wait for first reviews to see if the game itself is good or not. I hope it's good, this will worth $20.

 

You know it's a triple-A game title which means it will be $60, and will STAY $60 for a long time (assuming it is great and gets super reviews), right?

It'll be half a decade before its price drops to $20 on Steam.

Edit: unless you're buying from some shady place lol.

 

Yea, I will be buying from a "shady" place for Steam, but I don't really care since it's not illegal and it will not be banned

 

whats the difference between all the elf races? like high, dark, and wood? is there a difference in stats? or are they just for looks?

lol, ive never played an elder scrolls game.

 

Each race has permanent abilities (such as water breathing for Argonians, frost resistance for Nords, wood elves have resistance to poison, dark elves are resistant to fire), and once-daily abilities (wood elves can command an animal to help them in battle, dark elves can use Ancestor's Wrath ability which surrounds them with fire, High Elves have an ability that allows them to regenerate Magicka quickly).

Each race also has different starting bonuses for various skills.

 

There are statistical differences.

Altmer (High Elves) are usually the preferred race for pure mage characters; they have significant bonuses to all magical skills, as well as the highest starting Intelligence (leading to the largest starting Magicka pool), but also weakness to all elemental magic (fire/frost/shock), and negative disposition modifiers to NPC's of all races besides other Altmer.

Bosmer (Wood Elves) are an awesome choices for a stealth assassin-type or thief character. They have bonuses in most of the stealth-oriented skills, including Sneak, Marksman, Alchemy and Light Armor. Excellent for sneaking around and sniping from the shadows with poisoned arrows. They can also control animals for a short time. They have no disposition modifiers other than a small positive modifier with fellow Bosmer.

Dunmer (Dark Elves) have skill bonuses in Blade, Marksman and Destruction magic, making them very balanced in any style of combat. They also have a huge resistance to fire and can summon a spirit to fight. On the flipside, pretty much everyone hates them; they have negative disposition modifiers with every race, and they are the only race that does not have a positive modifier with their own race.

This is all referring to the way they were in Oblivion, so I'm sure some things will change in Skyrim, but I'm willing to bet they won't be altered beyond recognition, i.e. Altmer will make great mages, Bosmer will be good assassins, and Dunmer will be balanced fighters and nobody will like them.

 

Argh I hope Brenton won't be the best race again (stat wise)

 

won't know for sure till it happens.

As far as waiting for a steam price drop to $20, it shouldn't take too long. History is on our side. I don't think we will need to wait too many eons. Maybe 6-9 months.

 

Holy crap those skeletons look real scary

 

okay, so what if i wanted pure stealth and (bows/marksman). what would be some good races? (other than the elves, because i have no idea what the others even are).

and then i LOVE the idea of summoning things through magic, an other races other than dark elves?

 

For a stealthy marksman-oriented assassin, Bosmer is definitely the best choice overall. But if you don't want an elf character, Khajiit have an inherent Sneak bonus as well, and Argonians have lockpicking bonuses.

As for summoning, if you don't want an elf, Bretons have a Conjuration bonus.

 

Not sure how it'll work out on Skyrim, but in previous Elder Scrolls games race was almost a purely cosmetic choice. Most races tended to just even out over time as your character grew and you pumped your stats and skills where you wanted them.

 

I would have to disagree. If you try playing a Breton warrior for example, he's always going to be considerably weaker than a Nord or Redguard at every level.

 

At lower levels, certainly, but I found that I tended to spend so much time just fannying about in Morrowind and Oblivion that I eventually had to start putting points even in dump stats. Sure, it'll be a tougher journey getting there, but it's not thaaaaat difficult. Especially given how exploitable the Elder Scrolls games are.

Ah, 100% Chameleon...

 

I was able to steal everything with my warrior. Skeleton key FTW

Oh how I hope they have more of those shrines that let you get awesome weapons and artifacts by doing crazy side quests

 

Some new gameplay footage has been posted on Gametrailers

GameTrailers TV with Geoff Keighley

First footage showing Iiz Slen Nus (Ice Form Shout), Fein Zey Grohn (Become Ethereal Shout) and Elemental Fury Shout.

Also resurrecting dead chickens, gaining the allegiance of a friendly dragon and other cool stuff.

 

Not to steal your thunder movie, but HD video is available here:
GameTrailers TV with Geoff Keighley

 

Poultrymancers (Necropoultry?)

 

Looks like some body part.....

 

i think its a chicken =o

 

It is indeed a chicken.

That, or I kinda fear for key001's life, with body parts like that in him...

 

Yay for low res flat textures...

 

Epic New Live Action Trailer:

Skyrim Live Action Trailer - YouTube

 

Wow, those graphics looked almost real!

 

Yeah, I got all excited til I read "Live Action"

 

Hopefully in a few years it will be more difficult to distinguish between CGI and live action.

 

They're getting closer and closer every gen. I would almost say the same for game play - environments are pretty on parr with realism IMO character models...well that's still a ways away. As for CGI, the best one i've seen in the last couple of months was the Arkham City trailer, pretty sweeeeeet trailer.

 

Best CGI is the new Diablo III teaser "Black Soulstone"; nothing beats it in terms of stylized photorealism.

Diablo III Black Soulstone Cinematic - YouTube

 

Official PC specs released

Bethesda Blog | An officially unofficial weblog for Bethesda Softworks

Minimum
Windows 7/Vista/XP PC (32 or 64 bit)
Processor: Dual Core 2.0GHz or equivalent processor
2GB System RAM
6GB free HDD Space
DirectX 9 compliant video card with 512 MB of RAM
DirectX compatible sound card
Internet access for Steam activation

Recommended
Windows 7/Vista/XP PC (32 or 64 bit)
Processor: Quad-core Intel or AMD CPU
4GB System RAM
6GB free HDD space
DirectX 9 compatible NVIDIA or AMD ATI video card with 1GB of RAM (Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 or higher; ATI Radeon 4890 or higher).
DirectX compatible sound card
Internet access for Steam activation

 

What? Only 6GB for a modern open-world sandbox game with hopefully hundreds of hours of content and beautiful graphics? Something doesn't add up here.

 

sounds like relatively low res textures.

Hopefully there will be some sort of official high res texture pack.

 

Search and you shall find. Do a 2 + 2 and you get the picture
I highlighted the important stuff

PC specs for Oblivion:

Minimum
Windows XP 64-bit, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7
2 GHz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
512 MB System RAM
4.6 GB free hard disk space
128 MB Direct3D compatible video card and DirectX 9.0
8x DVD-ROM drive
DirectX 9.0c (included)
DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
Keyboard, Mouse

 

I was expecting Skyrim to have at least 10 GB installation; heck it's much less procedurally generated, plus more modernized graphics.

I guess textures can always be redone by modding community (especially since it's a Bethesda game), what I'm worried about is game length and content.

 

The hard disk space requirement means low res textures everywhere.

 

Let's hope that's the only thing cut short (since it's the easiest thing to solve via modding).

 

yea but in reality Oblivion would hardly run on 512 megs of ram unless you moded it for performance... heck even 1 gig of ram was barely enough. and as for the 128 megs of video ram... well you better hope you got a very fast card pared up with that or your going to be sitting at sub 20 fps most of the time.

In reality the max recommended specs are a lot closer to what you would want as a minimum.

 

Heh you guys still need to consider that Oblivion was optimized for 720p and not 1080p so those low end GPU's do the job perfectly. This game will more than likely be optimized for 720p as well since it is a console port if for some reason it isn't...well, we're all in luck.

 

The specs quoted is minimum, not recommended.

Probably. God I hate consoles. Always ruining the fun for the rest of us

 

According to Pete Hines:

According to Todd Howard:

Hopefully this means that I will get a higher frame rate with my laptop than I did with Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 3.

That doesn't make any sense to me. How exactly do you "optimize" a game for 720p? Every game is designed to be scaled up or down to fit your monitor resolution, and 720p is the same aspect ratio as 1080p.

The Minimum and Recommended specs were specifically tested and intended for running the game at 1920x1080 ("Minimum" corresponds to low settings and "Recommended" corresponds to high settings for 1080p). If you are playing at lower resolution than 1080p, obviously, you can use lower tier hardware than what is listed in the specs.

 

Great. So ye, there we have it. 1.4GB bigger game plus much better compression equals big game. They said Skyrim is bigger than Oblivion. Enough to satisfy me

 

Some new gameplay footage, including a public beheading and some voiced NPC dialogue, released today:

The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim Exclusive Preview in High Definition ? G4tv.com

11 min. of new footage, including views of Khajiit, Argonian and Breton NPCs:

http://www.g4tv.com/videos/55960/the-elder-scrolls-5-skyrim-video-preview/?quality=hd

 

Forgive my ignorance, but I did try to find this info out on google and other search sites:

What is the mobile equivalent of the GTX 260?

edit: Never mind...I literally found my answer 5 seconds later lol. Sorry all

Mr. Mysterious

 

What was the answer you found?

I have heard that it is roughly equivalent to a 560m/460m or 5870m

 

Just that. Equivalent to, close enough to, the 560M and 460M.

But then again, like another NBR member said, sometimes the actual performance requirements are different than the recommended specs. We're just going to have to wait and see how well it will work with various cards.

In either case, I'm upgrading to a Kepler GPU (probably the 7970M) when it comes out Time to start saving!

Mr. Mysterious

 

Considering Kepler is Nvidia, you might be waiting quite a while.

 

7970 is Southern Islands.

 

Why play Skyrim on a laptop, though? You're hardly going to get a perfect experience playing it on a small laptop screen, with a subpar laptop sound system.

Me? I'm going to lug my desktop up to the top of Mount Everest so I get that extra immersive Skyrim feel. Plus I can really turn up the volume there, too; it's not like an avalanche would bury ME, right...

 

I have my Sager hooked up to a beauuutiful Asus 24in screen, and I have the Z Cinema system from Logitech

Why not have a desktop instead? Portability. If I need to take my laptop somewhere, I have the flexibility to do so. Also, laptops are just plain cooler

(my opinion, folks)

Mr. Mysterious

 

Having a laptop doesn't preclude you from playing on a larger physical screen or with a good sound system.

The equivalent would be that playing on a desktop requires you to use NO screen and NO sound system. You just turn on the desktop and watch it "be on". The laptop is just a trade between portability and cost per performance. If you accept much larger cost / performance, you can get more portability. Very simple

 

I actually have a setup where I watch the raw CPU/GPU output whiz by on my screen. It's like the Matrix.