TF2 New Updates

Told ya there was going to be a trade system! (;

 

LOL, after a whole day of gaming I won 3 weapons - another Sandman and...

The "Dead Ringer"
It's actually pretty cool - it fakes your death whenever it is activated and you take damage. While it is activated (RMB is pressed) you can't shoot/stab/sap. When you take damage it fakes your death, making the "killer" think he killed you (this is done pretty realistic - the "killer" even sees your death in the up right corner of his screen). When this happens you're automatically cloaked for 8-9 seconds, giving you time to escape or go behind him and backstab him. Practically when it's activated and someone "kills" you even with a headshot you won't take ANY damage. Even if a pyro ignites you, the Dead Ringer will "take the flames away" but if that pyro continues to fire his flame thrower he can ignite you, while being cloaked.

The "Cloak and Dagger":
A level 5 spy watch. It practically does the exact same thing as the normal invisibility watch, but with it you can stay cloaked for probably triple the time as your normal watch. When you're standing still it recharges and it's motion activated. Much like the cloak in Crysis - when you're moving it's being depleted faster, than if you're crouching. Problem is you can't pick up metal (enemy weapons, metal crates) in order to recharge it but you won't need it, since if you're standing still it's automatically recharged and you can remain cloaked for an infinite amount of time.

PS: Oh, yeah - if you want to read the whole story about the new weapon system and stuff go here: http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2535

 

The Dead Ringer sounds pretty cool. After about 7 hours of playing the last two days, I only found one item - the bow. While cool, it's kinda lame since I was hoping to find something for the spy. Oh well.

 

Anyone else getting achievements when your not exactly meant to?
For example i got the sniper 'Enemy at the Gates' achievements after i killed someone after they exited a gate, well into the match. I got the 'Dead Reckoning' achievement while using my sniper rifle; i killed a sniper after he shot the arrow which killed me.
Lots of other people were getting the achievements the same way on the same server. imo valve has screwed up with all this achievement and unlockable mumbo jumbo, its so much more confusing now.

 

its all so stupid... just a few weeks ago the TF2 team released a statement about how they know ppl in games hate not having control, which is why they got rid of grenades... putting in a system where you get RANDOM unlocks of things like rare hats goes against this COMPLETELY. Some noob who doesnt deserve the weapon is going to get it, and you're not even if you're MVP.

 

TF2 is becoming too noob friendly. There should be a reward for playing more besides just "being better". The whole achievement system that rewards you with items was pretty good for that, although a lot of people farm the achievements.

 

I just finished installing TF2 and had a few questions about it.

1) how big is it? I've been dling updates for days, and I'm at around 8gbs...how much longer am I gonna have to wait.
2) is there any single player option. Like bots, how CSS does it?

 

1. TF2 takes up 7735 MB for me, but I think that number does not include the shared Source files.

2. Nope

 

Well good for you!! D:
I've wanted the bow from the beginning! And now I have all the new weapons for spy/sniper EXCEPT the bow. I'd gladly trade it with the razorback..

1. See crash's post.
2. There actually are bots in the game. Problem is though they don't have an AI. If you want some dolls, which you can control ONLY using console commands like bot_mimic 1 - congrats, you just found them. But if you're looking for real opponents - use the "search for servers" option.

I have no problems with the achievements.

 

I'm very curious to see what valve is going to do with this, as they've never been one to disappoint. I mean, it's not like it takes longer to get those weapons than if they were achievement-based.

 

Doesn't matter...why would they release such a system if it didn't even make it fair for all users to get the items? And why even create an economy of items anyway? Are they really trying to clamp down on achievement servers now or something?

 

This hat is a must-have:

 

I've been playing it for about 40 hours since the update, and I still don't have the huntsman, jarate, or the pocketwatch. Normally I'd get the achievements in less than 4 hours through normal gameplay in regular servers. With this system I might never get the weapons. Heck I have 4 ambassadors, but still not what I actually wanted.

If that was the intent, they FAILED miserably. Now there's 10x as many achievement servers, and instead of them helping each other get achievements, now they're just sitting in spectate waiting to get the random items. And from what I hear it's really the only option they have, either that or play hundreds of hours, and MAYBE get something.

 

played a coupla hours each day this weekend so far i have

1 x ambassador
1 x Jarate
1 x Dead Ringer
1 x ubersaw
1 x natasha
1 x flaregun
1 x axtinguisher
1 x scouts new shotty (forget its name)

 

What a lucky ...all I got was that stupid soft drink for the scout. I don't even play scout.

 

rack up another duplicate and a huntsman for me too

 

I've been out of the TF2 loop for sometime but just read about the achievement mess. Seems like Valve went from hero to zero in a matter of a day, lol. I think it's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard of. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

That being said, I'm sure they'll reverse these changes. And if they don't - their core will evaporate quickly.

 

How do you get the new items? I played for a few hours today, but I didn't find or receive anything.

 

It's completely random, so hope your lucky.

 

Every few hours you get a chance to get a weapon, like a dice roll. If your lucky you get a weapon, if not, you don't.

 

Im never afraid to stand out and be the single person with a different opinion, though since I have not played yet since the update I cant say I have a real opinion but I can clearly see the intended point.

People (many of they not everybody) just "cheated" on servers meant to get achievements and that took the purpose away of getting them, also seems to me many of them were so ridiculous you would never get them without grinding for them or purposely setting it up.

So you end up with two situations, people on the achievement servers, or people in a real server doing there own thing for achievements rather than working as a team ruining the game for others.

Now with this random system you can expect people to "just play" play for fun, play as a team, and just earn your stuff as it comes.

This means average joe (like me) can just play for fun and not have to go look up all the achievements or waist half a day grinding for them in a "cheat" server.

However I totally understand the agony that comes with a random item system, infact so much it hurts because I was a avid MMO player in the day and it was the bane of my existence trying to get an item for two months that like 5 of my friends get on the 2nd day.

I have always had bad luck with this stuff, but TF2 unlike an MMO does not depend on these items, they are just extras and the new random stuff adds cool extra rare items too instead of just the standard achievement items.

So I dont think this change was for better or worse it was just that, a change. Its going to benefit some and not others. Give it time and people will start to have so many duplicates that they will be handing them out to you anyways I think.

 

I have noticed that the couple of servers ive played with just the new pipeline map on seemed to dish out weapons more frequently than others, not sure if thats just my imagination though

 

wow i was just in a server for less than 15 mins and i recieved:
ambassador x2
foot ball helmet
huntsman x2
natascha
prussian picklehaube x2
trophy belt x3
axetinguisher
flaregun
mining helmet x2
force a nature x3
pyro beanie x2
kritzkrieg
the cloak and dagger
batters helmet x2
the sandman
bonk
soldiers stash.

everyone in the server thought i was cheating or using the console command. i still want the afro for the demo man.

 

I would have stayed in there

All I got today was the dead ringer

 

i left because my backpack was almost full. do the "hats" do anything or are they just for looks?

 

I've played for 12 hours since the update and all I've gotten is...

bow x 2
Natascha

xxERIKxx, you are lucky

 

You're really lucky. -.-

 

How's that even possible, that's more than 1 new item per minute.

 

All I have gotten was about 4-5 Forces of Nature, get's really frustrating.

 

yeah me and this other guy in the server were getting items in pairs. i havent unlocked anything since then so i would say my luck is over. the only thing i really wanted was the afro for the demo man.


ive only payed with the spy for about 30 mins and i have all the items...

 

Did you just buy TF2 at the time by any chance?

 

no ive had tf2 since dec 07 but just got back into it.

 

News: Just today I think it was, now you can get unlocks with BOTH the new random pickup method and the old achievements based method.

 

Yeah. <retarded sеntence>Just GOTS ME TEH BOW.</retarded sentence>
It was really weird - earlier today I entered a server, and the first time I died I got ALL of the new weapons (now I have ALL of the new weapons twice, except the bow). Strange thing is I kind of got used to the new weapon system. Valve's idea was pretty good actually with a trading system and all..
Not that the trading system is removed now - problem is that (almost) everybody's got the new weapons now, which makes it limited to only special items such as the demoman afro and such.

 

Weird, I was playing with pyro and got the Sniper Milestone 3 achievement and suddenly unlocked a the huntsman, ambassador, and cloak and dagger. It's odd because I hadn't even gotten enough achievements for Sniper Milestone 2.

 

thats what my backpack looks like right now.

 

I wish they would add third person view, and customizeable characters(faces and such).

 

Where's the 'fro?

 

awww man im after the hats now not found any yet

 

thats the only hat i really wanted and i havent found it yet. if they release a trading system i got a couple of hats i would trade for the fro.

 

I'm still missing the Cloak & Dagger, and no hats yet. This is frustrating. :|

I have 104 hours played or idled in game since the update and no hats, this is somewhat ridiculous.

 

Can you not get cloak & dagger via achievment now?

I got my urine jar today from achievement lol.

no hats for me ether.

 

No hats, but four ambassadors, three cloak and daggers, three flare guns, two dead ringers... sigh.

 

"urine jar" "cloak & dagger" "no hats" "ridiculous"

must be a real funny game.

 

Jarate is pretty sweet, I really was dying for the Huntsman but it sucks. Huntsman is only a useful weapon for people who suck with the actual sniper rifle, in which case they shouldn't be playing that class anyway.

 

the huntsman isnt really that easy to use. i still use the rifle over it.

 

man i still haven't been able to find any hats or anythin for the scout and hunter. are diff items in diff maps or somethin? i only play turbine.

i just got done playin and my teleporter almost had 100 teleports til a stupid spy sapped it.

assault engie > *

p.s. - xxerikxx, i hate u.

 

Eh I wouldnt say the rifle is better than the bow, or the bow better than the rifle.

Its situational. i belive the bow's prospect was to allow a sniper to get closer to the action where the rifle was not viable.

Some stages simply do not have the space and areas for a sniper to be so instead of being a gimped sniper you can still use your favorite class in those up close and personal areas. it also allows you to move with the team instead of being a loner in the back somewhere just begging for a spy to stab you.

I never put enough time into TF2 to get really good at it, and was not too good with the rifle, but I think in a days worth of playing I got good with the bow, I was always half way up the chart for score or higher.

I really like the bow, its fun to use and I am not so gimped with the reduced vision of the rifle, and you can still snipe from really far away with a bit of skill in calculating the arrow drop.

Oh and a pyro can light your arrow on fire for you

 

yeah but the bow fires a half second after u click fire and the travel time is insane, you can almost never hit someone and if so it normally is not a one shot kill so i then have to try to ht them again. Id rather jsut use a rifle and occasionally charge in with my blade/machete/knife/sharp pointy object

 

Yeah the bow is a projectile not a hitscan weapon like the rifle. But the nice thing is its really easy for headshots in mid/close range combat which is the majority of my combat, the riflee cant get a headshot unless zoomed in and seems to have no accuracy to me if not zoomed.

Im able to lead targets from far away rather well, and usually you catch sombody standing still or moving in an angle that the travel time wont change the aim area. Infact I am probably better with leading than I am the instant shot with the rifle. (in the marines even with a real rifle there is travel time so its natural to me and we had to lead targets based on wind)

It fits my play style much better, I can get behind a wall/corner charge the arrow and peek out and fire then go to cover again.

The rifle usually requires me to stay in the open and hunt for somebody and stay still to long and I find the zoom zooms me in so close that often people are out of my sights too fast for me to react.

You can say i am a bad sniper and thats fine, and probably true, but hey I am a good bow hunter

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