The 680m thread where no one talks about it's red competitor.

Nope not funny.

 

P4G / [Review] M18X-R2 Sli gtx680m i7 3920xm
first benchs of sli 680m

 

What's the stock voltage on the 680m? - I wasnt sure, but I noticed the Clevo bench result hit max 0.93v.....

 

That GPU-Z screenshot was taken when they weren`t running 3DMark11, because the PCI-E settings are going lower too when you are not doing anything demanding, hence why it said 1.1.

As for the revision, that A2 from Dell is the final one. I`m pretty shure there are Clevo`s with A2 too, but I just posted whatever first picture could find

 

Oh dear god

Having a weird day as I already did, and with your ending comment, your name and your avatar, you made me cry wat da faq

 

I don't get it why a gaming laptop should have Enduro or Optimus

 

Me either - we should at least be able to totally disable that "tree-hugging" garbage....

 

Because some prefer a cooler and less noisy notebook when watching a movie or surfing the web or whatever. Not everyone like to have a dedicated gaming notebook and a "surfing" notebook

Tree hugging garbage. hahaha I literally laughed out loud

 

MSI has a vBIOS with a clock bump, Clevo has 2x memory (could be the reason why artificial benches like '11 give it extra 300-400pts) and that's about it. Looks fair to me.

 

There should just be HARD switch, all of this software non sense annoys the hell out of all the users... for the love of god, think

 

I want longer battery life, I'll take that, but like jaug1337 says, with manual switching. I really don't care for this software switching crap. It's unnecessary and too complicated when a simple switch will do the trick. I know on the hardware level there's more than just the switch, but from a customer standpoint, we all can comprehend on/off versus why my fps at 10?

 

There is NOTHING complicated about this, it has been stated several times by nVIDIA.

The only reason for their stupid software is because they want to "be the future" and it annoys the hell out of me, simply because IT DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY, just let the users control it themselves like Alienware does.

For the love of god, why is it that manufactures make it so hard for us consumers..

I'm on the edge of making a petition, since all of our petitions go so well recently

 

I have a Sony Vaio Z where you can switch between the iGPU and the dGPU via a manual hardware switch button.

Please trust me when I say this - you don't want that. It is annoying. Forgetting to switch to the dGPU when loading a game will cause the game to take forever to load, connecting the laptop with the HDMI requires the dGPU as well and constantly moving from 'Stamina' (iGPU) mode to 'Speed' (dGPU) mode is a real pain.

You'd think that this is a merely minor annoyance and eventually one would remember to make the switch when necessary, but this is the worst.
thing.
ever.

Having a few numbers less in a synthetic benchmark or what have you is a small price to pay for something that does this stuff automatically.

But I agree with the others, there should be a way to disable this nonsense completely. This is a heavy gaming laptop, not a tablet, leave us alone.

Also:

Dude...
Wheat Thins Family Guy - YouTube
(sorry, that's the only version I found in youtube)

But really, why do you put so much emphasis on the H? You constantly do that and drives me nuts

 

They've had manual switchable graphics around for a while, it was never an inconvenience. Even the Sony Vaio S11 had manual switchable graphics.

My old Asus N10J had manual switchable graphics. It wasn't a big deal. Plugged in you just set it to max GPU. Unplugged you set it to max battery.

And Optimus/Enduro don't only affect synthetic benchmarks. It can affect overall performance. Even on my DV6z with AMD CPU/GPU where someone managed to hack the BIOS and offer a fixed GPU mode where it was more or less a manual switch, performance went up a solid 10%.

With Optimus sometimes I start a game and get crappy performance, and it's because it's set to the IGPU for some reason and not the dedicated, so same issue exists.

No go eat some Wheat Thins....

 

I can't imagine it being bad or annoying. Only yourself to blame if it you forget to switch

I'd be better off trusting myself to turn graphics on and off instead of a software

 

I loved the switchable graphics for the Radeon 6990m on the M17x R3. Now, the M17x R4 only has crappy software switching, I absolutely HATE that. I like to be in control of my laptop, fully. Its like driving an automatic vs a manual car.

 

Well that's it. For power gaming laptops you want control. Nothing to hold you back. I am glad Sager offered switchable graphics, but I think when they heard customers requesting switchable graphics they instantly thought Optimus I'm sure. But having the MXM run through a mux would have been the ideal choice, so you could use optimus, or manual switch.

 

Precisely, nothing more annoying that not having something under your own control, especially when buying gaming/high-end machines like this

 

jaug, please try it before spouting that godawful 'only yourself to blame...'. It's clunky, it's annoying, and the worst of all - it interferes with drivers, as you need some very specifically customized drivers otherwise the switch doesn't work and you get stuck with either the iGPU or the dPGU (that is, if you're lucky and the driver works in the first place), so forget about updating drivers for...forever, really.

And WingNut, that's hardly the way it works, at least for me. I don't want to keep using my dGPU for browsing (which fires up the fans for no reason every once in a while) when I have an iGPU even when I'm all plugged in. If you're stuck with Enduro/Optimus giving you problems, then you should have an off switch, but that's it. Forcing yourself to switch between your GPUs on a regular basis doesn't work. You guys don't know what you're talking about. It's an inconvenience, not a good thing. It's like complaining your cars (I know, I know, I'm sick of car analogies as well, but it really fits) with all the new accessories require some maintenance and you miss the good old days where you had a quirky car that only opened the lights if you pushed the windshield wiper and...bah, you get the picture.

Annoyances or no, Optimus is the future. Deal with it and find ways to make it work instead of looking back at clunky manual stuff, especially when you don't have experience with that...'technology'.

Anyway, I'll go eat my Wheat Thins now

Edit: Oh, technos mentioned Manual vs Automatic transmission. Well, that's the thing - I always prefer Automatic, I want to just get there and be as little bothered by my ride as possible. That's probably the difference between our perspectives. Anyway, I agree that there should be a choice and everyone would be happy.

 

actually the R4 still have manual switching which will completely disable intel hd4000. Thats the first thing I did after finished installing drivers. The combination is Fn+F7.

 

Ya the m11xR1 had manual switching so i never had to deal with the issues people had with optimus on the r2. All systems should be manual IMO.

 

Oh yeah M11x R1, I had one of those and yeah manual switching. I liked it. No fussing with per app GPU. I also owned a Lenovo with manual switching too. That's like 4 completely different branded notebooks I've owned with manual switching graphics. I miss it.

 

My current laptop (the Alienware m15x) has manual switching. It takes a reboot to switch cards so I never used it. Some time after I got it, Nvidia came around and said they weren't supporting my card anymore because it was hybrid power (an Optimus predecessor). I think the best thing to do is hope Nvidia sticks with Optimus for a while, or else they'll pull the same stunt again.

 

I got a new deal with Dell.ca and made a new order. I'm now sticking with AW and went with the green team!

 

Congrats thief. A beastly card indeed.
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As for the Automatic/Manual thingy, I agree, manual switching would have been great. Or some settings that let you choose wether the machine switch between IGP and the GPU for you, or if you prefer to do it yourself

 

^ Dell financing was the answer. Great deal! I pay 75% of the total and finance the balance for 6 months interest free. It's the laptop I wanted in the first place, and not having to wait a month or so to save up more funds, ..or buy a cheaper laptop were I'm not sure if it's going to please me completely aesthetic-wise and performance / driver easeness / temp-wise..

 

aw is a good choice man, welcome to the brotherhood

 

The 680M has dropped $50 already now $445 on Sager.

Showing a backorder of a couple days.

 

LOL $445? Isn`t that a lot more than what certain Sager resellers take or what Alienware take?

 

I am not sure what you mean but it has been priced at $495 more than base with 670M or $295 more than 7970M.

So now it is $445 more than 670M and $245 more than 7970M.

Moving in the right direction as far as I am concerned.

 

Oh I see. Thats great, Nvidia are definitely moving in the right direction now. Great value there, especially for overclockers
+rep

 

Could any one with 680m run this nvidia new demo on ultra and report their FPS at stock and OC
http://downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-A-New-Dawn-DirectX-11-Demo-download-2951.html

 

Yeah what the guy above said. It would be fun to see what 680M get in the demo. Especially with the new vbios. The demo pushing your GPU to the limit. I think this tool is gonna be on reviews from now on
Download it HERE

Users are reports that its using 1.9GB memory @ 1080p

Comparisons (everything on max settings @ 1080p):
http://www.overclock.net/t/1285352/anyone-downloaded-a-new-dawn
GTX 670: Around 20FPS
GTX 570 SLI: Around 15FPS
GTX 580: Around 8FPS

 

I ran it on my gtx 470 SLI but due to memory limit I got around 14 FPS so it would be interesting to see how 680m will perform

 

I ran this on my Sager P170HM that has the GTX 680M at 1920 x 1080 full screen. I used fraps to record the min/max and the maximum fps was 17 with the average fps being 16. Maximum GPU temps were 76C during this benchmark

 

That's really great result . I wonder when games will look this good . Also , What was the maximum VRAM usage ??

 

The maximum memory usage for me was 2199MB's.

 

...reviving the thread, ..but since I just got my M17x r4 with the 680m for 4 days now, I found that the max GPU temp being really low on games like BF3, TW2, Crysis 2 (DX11, HRTP).. My 100% fan seem set early..

I get this temp range from 50 min. to 2 hrs. of gaming, Crysis 2 went +2* C max after 2 hrs. BF3 usually -1* C constant. "surprised".

..Lastly, I could just see myself buying another M17 or M18 in 2 yrs. time or so, they look great.




This is by the way TW2 non-enhanced edition, just patched up to 2.0, I'll get Arena soon. My FPS on TW2 with v-sync on are 41-60 with those setting. 41fps on some heavily forested, vegetation area.

 

WOW! That is just bloody brilliant! Perfect, I can't imagine having such cool temps

 

What FPS are you getting? My 680M (AW) never goes higher than 66oC - I must ask though, have you OC'ed, your card as my mem clock has never been as high as your max reads?

 

I found this interesting.

Total available graphics memory 4095 MB
Dedicated video memory 2048 MB GDDR5
Shared system memory 2047 MB

 

Hi ppl,
I have a brand new GTX680M 4Gb DDR5 for me to play with

Here are some benchs and temps:


Stock Clocks
Room: 27,8ºC
3DMark 11: 63ºC


OC (854/2400):
Room: 29,8ºC
3DMark 11- 69ºC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7215 3DMarks
3DMark Vantage - 73ºC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P24419 3DMarks


Is this good/normal? If not how can I improve (last nvidia GPU I had was a Geforce 2...)

Thank you,
Best Regards to all

 

Scores look solid to me. Your temps are a bit lower than expected, actually. Is this with your notebook cooler running? Or have you done any extra cooling mods like the foil mod or something?

Anyway, if you choose to overvolt, you'll be able to reach higher clocks while retaining <80C temperatures, which is very impressive.

 

Hi,
Thank you for your feedback yes I have a notepal U2 with 5 fans and foil mod applied I'm pretty happy with my GTX 680M since I can OC everytime I want (if not always ehehe).

Best Regards to all

 

Anyone playing the Sleeping Dogs with the 680M? If so what're your settings and FPS, please?

For verification purposes I've only tried the demo, am on 302.77 drivers, my card isn't overclocked and its the Alienware M17x R4 card.

Thank you.

 

Seems Sleeping Dogs (Demo) runs just fine.
I got a stable 60fps playing the game at with the settings here.

The drivers im using are the new beta drivers.
NVIDIA DRIVERS 306.02BETA

 

Hey guys,

Future 680m owner here. Just wondering if the 180w NP9150 PSU has enough juice to hold a 680m at 1035mhz? (1.037v BIOS). I'll have 1 SSD, no optical drive, a 3630QM and 8gb of Hyper-X RAM.

Really want to try stay at 15.6. 17.3" seems so big :O

 

that shouldn't be a problem. you won't need a larger PSU. mind you you won't be running 1.037 voltage all the time

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