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    The Evil Within - ridiculous system requirements

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by octiceps, Sep 25, 2014.

  1. TBoneSan

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    Dam.. what a shame... for them. They'll never see me part with my money for a rubbish port.
     
    TBoneSan, Oct 16, 2014
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    There may be various issues here, but the lack of SLI scaling in this case is not due to quality of porting.

    id Tech 5 engine is a completely different type of engine compared to most other games. It's OpenGL rather than DirectX, and it doesn't benefit from SLI, same as RAGE, Wolfenstein New Order and probably the upcoming DOOM4 on id Tech 6.
     
    moviemarketing, Oct 16, 2014
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  3. dumitrumitu24

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    i saw the game running fine on 750ti at steady 30fps.Should be playable than on 770M.Has anybody tryied?
     
    dumitrumitu24, Oct 16, 2014
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    I'll try it out and report soon, I have the game but I didn't have time to install it yet.
     
    ExMM, Oct 16, 2014
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    So I did the SLI scaliing force rendering thing. I didnt get any glitches like the other guy report, and it ran fine. It didn't seem to improve performance though, but the use of card 1 went down and it split it between card 2

    EDIT: Alternating 1 causes the texture flickers. 2 works fine. Might be better do to this anyway to divide the stress across two cards.
     
    dandan112988, Oct 16, 2014
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  6. octiceps

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    It's just like RAGE and Wolfenstein. SLI gives no performance improvement since both cards are only 50% utilized. Single GPU is preferable since there's no microstutter or negative scaling and you can use CUDA transcode.
     
    octiceps, Oct 16, 2014
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    Hmm, interesting to see how much better Haswell CPU does - I wonder what it is using:

    [​IMG]

    Any of you guys tried this game with mobile Haswell?
     
    moviemarketing, Oct 17, 2014
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    I have tried the game for 3hrs yesterday on my 880M Sager P150SM......It never went below 30FPS....r u guys on crack????
     
    thesilent85, Oct 17, 2014
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  9. octiceps

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    Hi, are you high?
     
    octiceps, Oct 17, 2014
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    Woo hoo for 30fps :p
     
    TBoneSan, Oct 17, 2014
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    at 1080P on my 3720QM at 2.8GHZ and 770M at 866GHZ it runs about 25 to 28 FPS.

    Yet Shadow of Mordor on High runs at 40FPS almost all the time heaps more happening ty port indeed :p
     
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    I compare it to the console versions where a steady 30FPS is not achieved and running at 720P!!!!
     
    thesilent85, Oct 17, 2014
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    You compare your $2K laptop with $400 peasant boxes? Quit smoking the devil's lettuce, man!
     
    octiceps, Oct 17, 2014
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    LOL! I see it like this.....there are 3 versions of the game:

    1. PS4 768P unsteady 30FPS.
    2. XOne 720P unsteady 30FPS.
    3. PC "my PC" 1080P with steady 30FPS.

    I have the best version. I dont care of consoles price as they need to be added to a subscription for online and a TV must be bought!

    Plus, I use my laptop to other stuff than games...so if I compare buying the following to a laptop:

    1. Console.
    2. Online fee.
    3. HDTV.
    4. Work laptop.

    Then my $1.5K laptop is doing its job and more!

    I dont like gaming on consoles...therefore, its a good port for me!
     
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    PC has the least bad version. Woohoo.
     
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    I tried the game upto Chapter 3 and then turned it off. I was mostly just testing stuff, changing the resolution seemed to have no effect on fps. Locked at 30fps the game would dip into 20's and then even 10's when near fire, these were in the more open areas of the game. Unlocked the highest I got was 40 but then the same kind of dips.

    I tried the recently released mod of removing black bars and fixing fov, now this helped the game look more like Dead Space/RE games, but obviously did not fix the poor performance. I have no problem running Crysis 3 on high 1080p 60fps, this game is seriously ugly compared to that. Infact RE6 even though the gameplay is a mess, the graphics are way above what I'm seeing in Evil Within, and guess how well RE6 ran? Yeah 60fps no problem, hell the graphics are below even RE5 imo. Something about it reminds me of Deadly Premonition, not that it's as low as that but the style and texture palette along with some blurriness.

    I'm not a graphics (woman on the street selling ;) lol that word is banned it seems) , I would over look that if the gameplay is good, and that's the worst thing about this mess. The game underneath this technical horrific game engine, is actually a good one from what I've played. I keep saying it, but it's a damn shame, I think this will be a game the mod community will work on for a number of years to try and get it working right.

    As for people saying they played it flawlessly, which I'm seeing on the steam forums as well, I have to call bs unless they show me a vid and tell me there rig setup, you've seen from DF test itself "Not even an overclocked i7 and the fastest GPU on the planet can manage it." So those people must have cards from another planet or something and if you're ok with 30fps for about 2 grand worth of gear then something else is wrong. The majority of people on Steam don't have 2 grand machines, hence the hell fire back lash going on the forums right now.

    I suppose we can wait to see what this patch Bethseda claims to have coming, tbh I don't have much faith in it working some miracle. I could not advise anybody to spend money on this game, save your money, if you really still want to play it, wait a while, this game will be cheap very soon...
     
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    I`m glad I am going with 8GB 980M or 2x 6GB GTX 970M SLI this year

    Games eat more and more VRAM and demand really powerful cards.
     
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    This game's VRAM requirement was way overblown. It uses just over 1.5GB maxed out at 1080p, so absolutely no issues on 2GB cards.
     
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    Maybe they're getting ready to give us a high res texture pack or something. They did say it would be "a treat" if we have 4GB. :p
     
    moviemarketing, Oct 17, 2014
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    Hahahhahahahahahaahhahahahaa no
     
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    Is it just me or is there absolutely no difference between high and ultra textures in shadow of mordor

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    Splintah, Oct 17, 2014
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    I think you also have to set the resolution to 150% or 200% of your display to activate the downsampling.
     
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    What does that have to do with the Texture Quality setting? You mean you can only see the difference between High and Ultra textures if you supersample?
     
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    I bought the physical game for $40 on ebay. My p35w v2 (nvidia 870m) handles the game very well. Everything on High, even temperatures are under 85c. I thought the card was gonna struggle but it doesn't.

    The game is beautiful and the content is awesome. Field of view and the camera are horrible, though.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    Rafael_paez87, Oct 21, 2014
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    That seems to be the case, as otherwise there is almost no difference at all.

    Meanwhile, in Beacon Mental Hospital...

     
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    Meh, heads are overrated.
     
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    Will they release a performance patch?they updated xbox and ps4 and it runs way better..20-30% performance improvement..i might buy it if they improve the pc version too
     
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    Apparently you have to lose both heads to die in this game.
     
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    The new ISIS Productions Game.
    What ever you do never lose your head!
     
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    How to get head?
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    Step one: approach a person.
     
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    Step two: continue with the offtopic ;)
     
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    Step three.... profit?

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    Doesn't feel right... Didn't we miss one step?
     
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    Step 4: Profit

    I fail.
     
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    No worries. Happens to the best of us.

    Looked at the specs for the game, crap, I think I'll go buy the Call of Cthulhu when it's on sale. These are indeed dark times for me and my lappy...
     
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    Wait.. The old Call of Cthulhu? I about crapped my pants at the thought of a new Cthulhu game..
     
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    Yup, the old one...
     
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    New update for PC version today: PC Update - PC - Bethesda Softworks Forums

     
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    PC Demo up on Steam now, and if you buy it they include a free copy of the infamous Call of Cthulhu Dark Corners of the Earth - this was one of the best horror games I've ever played.

    Save 15% on The Evil Within on Steam

    I will try the demo, wonder if I can run it at 768p.
     
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    Anybody playing this? Picked up a copy during the recent Steam 66% off sale last week and really enjoying it. Happy to report runs great, apparently they patched out the black bars and added 60 fps as an option.

    I'll admit, I've jumped a few times playing it, and got called out playing it at work for it ha....

    Definitely worth a purchase if you pick it up on sale!
     
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    Unfortunately I missed the sale! I have downloaded the DEMO but it runs horribly. I have the game settings running at 1920x1080 in windowed mode on my Razer Blade 14 (2014).
     
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    I, too, am immensely bothered by the RIDICULOUS HD space requirements games have now. Between the limited space SSDs offer (most people probably only have around 250-500 GB HD space with SSDs, unless you have a HDD + SSD combo) and the data caps imposed by some ISPs this is simply not economically viable. My ISP has a 100 GB monthly cap, and I have to pay about $2 per GB extra when I go over that.

    For people in my boat, I am absolutely not going to use up HALF MY ****ING DATA for ONE GAME download. I have a Steam library of 71 games, and of that, I've had to cut it down to about 20 actually installed on my PC. I made backups of most of the others so I can restore from if I fancy playing them (at which point I would probably have to uninstall other games I no longer play to maintain space) but some of my games like Wolfenstein and AC: Black Flag may not be downloaded/played for a couple years, until I get a different service plan that offers unlimited data and they come out with affordable 1TB SSDs. But by that point, we will probably be looking at 75-100 GB games that require 10 GB Vram :nah: I have been a PC gamer for many years because it offers many advantages over consoles (and in fact, just recently bought a new GT72 Pro) but if this trend continues unchecked, it may eventually force me back to consoles.
     
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    Wouldn't the console versions use up your monthly data just as much?
     
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    For digital data, yes... but at least with console games I have the option of buying the game disk and playing/installing the game off that. PC games, for the most part, are entirely digital now. Steam Sales are one of the biggest advantages to PC gaming, but the disadvantage is without physical media you are stuck downloading MASSIVE files. I remember back when the average size for games was 15 GB and I thought that was a lot. Now, this newest generation of games seems to be 25 GB minimum. So discouraging.

    At least the silver lining is that with my new Killer AC card, I am seeing 3x the download speeds I am used to... I was happy getting 1 MB/s with my old laptop, now I average 2.7 MB/s. Crazy. :err:
     
    KnightofDight, Jan 28, 2015
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    I didn't try the demo, but from what I've read the demo was never updated with the performance fixes... no idea how much of an improvement they make, but the current game plays well. Graphics aren't fantastic but good enough. I'm enjoying it so far for $20 but wouldn't pay $60.
     
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