The Ongoing Disasters of the EPIC Games Store

Both of these are examples. There's also:

• Valve's former--and illegal--Steam "refund" policy, under which you could never receive a refund, period. Which it then replaced by requiring all game purchasers to waive their right to a refund. Which was then replaced with a policy of "you can receive Steam credit." It took years of consumer outrage, and a $3 million fine from an Australian court, before Steam finally relented and gave us consumers what literally every video game store offers--refunds.
  
• Valve takes a 30% cut of every game sold on Steam. Yes, big developers can absorb those costs, but up-and-coming developers and indies are slammed by this. There's no justification for it other than that Steam is a monopoly, and developers realistically have nowhere else to go if they want to sell games on PC. This is both anti-developer and, by limiting the ability of smaller developers to create and sell us games, anti-consumer.
• Valve's treatment of Steam Workshop creators is even worse; historically, Valve has taken 75% or more of profits from Steam Workshop sales. Indeed, they have told creators that they don't have a right to any payment for their work. And they force creators to keep their own sales data confidential. Again, because Valve is a monopoly, they easily get away with screwing over content creators and consumers like this.

We continue to use Steam despite all of this (and more). But when Epic lures one game away from Steam, we consumers think it's such a dirty move that we grab our digital torches and get ready to burn its store to the ground. The double standards are incredible.

Folks, if you want to stick with Steam exclusively because you don't like the inconvenience of having to select a different .exe file to run before your game can launch, fine. But targeting the Epic Game Stores as part of some kind of moral crusade because they're "anti-consumer" over this Metro Exodus incident, while putting faith in Valve as a "good guy," is seriously misguided. Valve is as anti-consumer and anti-developer as the law and market allows them to be, and one of the few things that can help make them less anti-consumer and anti-developer is having some real competition in the marketplace. Again, let's not cut off our noses to spite our faces.

 

You forget that people complain about all of those things and deal with them together and individually as appropriate.

"Exclusively" is Epic's deal, Steam allows placement of games on their service and others without requiring Exclusive use.

And, what a bunch of BS it is with you and others trying to say this is because we don't want to bother using another "Icon" or ".exe", that's bombastic hyperbole, and nowhere near the truth, and you know it.

Not going along with or being a part of a criminally minded business transaction motivated solely at stealing away Game IP, an action that shows us all that we can't trust Tencent / Deep Silver / Epic Game Store to honor business arrangements - they'll come in a rob a place blind if they idiotically think it will advance their goals or put ill-gotten gains in their pockets.

I am fine waiting for a year for a game I saw for sale on Steam that seems to be unavailable "due to forces outside their control" and now won't be available until February 14th 2020.

Another day, another game that doesn't deliver on time as promised through Steam.

 

For many people, it is the truth. There are people in this very thread who have said the reason they don't want to use the Epic Games Store is because they want the convenience of everything centralized on a single launcher. Regardless, that isn't my main point. I take more issue with people letting Valve off the hook for its books'-worth of sins while condemning to death its would-be competitors who have sinned far less.

And thank you for editing out of your original message that uncalled-for dig about me "needing work." Let's continue to keep things civil.

 

That's not truth, that's made up BS being repeated over and over once it's misunderstood or misspoken.

And you keep changing the subject away from the crime's of Tencent / Deep Silver / Epic, to dull the sharpness of our complaint with the situation.

That's not truth, that's not so subtle manipulation of the conversation away from the pursuit for truth.

Again, you are changing the point away from the crimes of Tencent / Deep Silver / Epic, and trying to pull in dirt about the victum in this particular instance - and trying to justify the crimes at hand through supposed victim's offenses, like Steam doesn't deserve honest treatment.

I call BS on that tactic, it takes justice away from those that were victimized.

So far all you guys have done is make a breeze in the thread, with nothing substantial to offer as an excuse for Tencent / Deep Silver / Epic's behavior, but of course there is no excuse, so it was a fool's errand all along.

If you want to become complicit in Tencent / Deep Silver / Epic's bad behavior, then open an account and purchase Metro: Exodus.

The rest of us will wait for Metro: Exodus to come back to Steam, and enjoy life honestly and fully without becoming an accomplice of Tencent / Deep Silver / Epic's bad behavior.

 

Except that Valve/Steam actually provides devs/users with numerous value-added and pro-consumer features that Epic can’t touch, such as the whole SteamWorks suite (servers, anti-cheat, cloud storage, inventory, marketplace, third-party workshop support, DLC hosting, Steam Direct, etc.), community hub features (forums, guides, user generated content sharing), support infrastructure, stats monitoring and achievements, VR support, Linux support, SteamOS, Big Picture Mode, support for alternative input devices such as Steam Controller, broadcasting, in-home streaming, parental control, family sharing, reviews, curators, tagging, algorithmically generated recommendations, and last but not least the largest install base of PC gamers on the planet.

As for Valve’s cut, it’s 30% but goes down to 25% or 20% depending on how much the game sells on Steam. A dev can simply sell keys on their own website and keep 100%, which in fact many indie devs do, since Steam allows devs to generate an unlimited supply of keys, while still benefitting from all the features I listed above.

 

Funny thing, preload will be available only on Steam (ha,ha):
https://twitter.com/MetroVideoGame/...iframe/2/twitter.min.html#1095389361082978305
BTW, my taptop is ready:

 

Stop saying that I'm trying to "justify" what Epic did. I've acknowledged, repeatedly, that it was a dirty move. What you seem incapable or unwilling to acknowledge is that Steam also has made more than its own fair share of dirty moves, nor can you comprehend how intellectually inconsistent it is to excuse Valve for their "crimes" while literally calling for the Epic Store to die.

To accuse me of "manipulation" and of "taking away justice from those that were victimized" is beyond hyperbolic. You clearly feel strongly about this, but strong feelings and strong words do not substitute for reasoned discussion. You seem more interested in accusing people who disagree with you of acting in bad faith than in legitimately trying to understand their viewpoints and conversing with them respectfully, so I honestly see no reason to continue talking to you about this.

 

Is there gonna be preload? I thought there wasn't gonna be one for steam.

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Well, they also did say Metro: Exodus would be released for sale on Steam, and that turned out to be a lie, so how can we believe them on anything they say??

https://twitter.com/MetroVideoGame/status/1095389361082978305

I guess those poor saps that pre-ordered Metro: Exodus on Steam will have to see what really happens, when it *really* happens.

This is the kind of general uncertainty that builds into an environment of disbelief that they've earned by going back on their word with Steam to sell Metro: Exodus on Steam.

 

https://twitter.com/MetroVideoGame/status/1095417771867996160

 

https://twitter.com/KuzmichCaptain/status/1095400251924643840

 

That burn from Arcendus though.. That's gotta cut deep.. xD

 

From what I understand this is a timed exclusive deal? Granted I heard it was one year. So if they is the case and it becomes available on steam in a year I'll grab it at a discount. I liked the Metro games, but i've bought all of them when they were on sale for like $15 each. And they were alot of fun. But nothing I've eagerly waiting for a sequal. So I'll vote with my wallet and wait.

 

Pretty much. And that's mostly what we can do at this point. Devs/publishers/companies can backstab their consumers all they want, at the end of the day all it's gonna do is cut into their bottom line.

Personally I think metro is going to be a fantastic game worked on by some talented people. And if I hadn't already put down the money on steam I would be waiting the same. Same if I was going to buy it on console.

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Damn you beat my too it. This is how well my internet has been running last night. lol

 

sales might flop now because cpy has cracked the game lol, 5 days after release! I’m for it though, I get to test it on my setup before I buy it, I’ve heard the game has horrendous optimisation with the new RTX gpus time to find out...

 

Wow, now that truly is "Epic" xD lol

 

It runs great on my 2080 Ti with Ray Tracing turned on. Very smooth, beautiful image. Turing off ray tracing you can really notice the difference. No need to reboot to turn it off either so swapping back and forth is easy. For me the realistic lighting is really cool. I'm seeing around 80fps on Ultra everything, ray tracing high, and DLSS off at 1440p. I guess I'll see how FPS changes as I keep playing but so far very impressed.

 

I’ll be buying it then, thanks!

 

There was a day 1 patch and a driver revision that fixed the bulk of major issues with the game running on RTX hardware.

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According to Hardware Unboxed, optimization seems to be pretty bad at this moment. Don't know if you're going to be playing it on the notebook GTX 1070 or the RTX 2080 so I can't point to any particular setting recommendation. The general recommendation seems to be to play on ultra (for a more "atmospheric" experience) or high (for a brighter image overall) and basically leave every other setting off. The video does a pretty good job explaining everything:

 

I’ll be playing it on the rtx all in one. From my understanding the game is better optimised for rtx rather than gtx anyway.

 

That video is misleading nonsense. It's them essentially saying to play with all settings off because they run like crap on AMD hardware (It's a Gameworks title soo). They literally say there is foul play, collusion if you will, between Nvidia and the Russian developer (those damn Russians strike again!) to make it run far worse on AMD. That's a stretch IMO. Either way you will have no trouble running the game with all the Nvidia options on from what I can tell. My 2080 Ti is a fair bit more powerful but I'm running Ultra (ray tracing high) and it's fluid and beautiful.

Also the game has been cracked in just 5 days. I don't support piracy myself, and this only hurts the PC gaming industry IMO.

https://www.thenerdmag.com/metro-exodus-cracked-by-cpy-after-a-few-days-of-release/

 

The video specifically says at 13:04 that "Nvidia GPU owners will see around a 20% performance improvement" for those settings (not counting RTX, which reduces approximately 30-40% fps in average). The hit will be larger on AMD hardware, regardless of the reason for it.

 

The reason for it is that AMD has weaker tessellation performance, and both HairWorks (and obviously tessellation) use tessellation. There is no conspiracy, this has always been the case dating back to Fermi vs. TeraScale days.

 

It's a Gameworks title, so you'll want to run without Hairworks, Tessellation, RTX, DLSS, to get the best FPS on any model GPU.

AMD has a larger performance hit, but even Nvidia GPU's are slowed down by the Gameworks BS.

Here's a couple of charts to show Hairworks / Tessellation OFF for both AMD and Nvidia GPU's - 2xxx or 1xxx or older Nvidia.

The 1% lows get the worst of it, which shows in GPU benchmark comparisons - a good way to know whether Gameworks is ON for the testing - if the reviewer doesn't mention it.

For Tessellation both Average FPS and 1% lows are hard hit:

Physx didn't seem to make any difference in visuals or performance, I'd still leave it off.

The Metro game is a sponsored by Nvidia Showcase for Nvidia BS, so it's not a good game to include for benchmarks, even for Nvidia GPU's.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-188#post-10866310
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-191#post-10868400
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-188#post-10866948
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-190#post-10868184
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-190#post-10867748
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-189#post-10867297
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-189#post-10867118

It looks like a fun game, looking forward to it 2/14/20 on Steam.

 

This is a constant a debate, whether pirating has a huge impact on sales or not, with arguments against said impact that people who actually choose to pirate would never actually purchase the game, for whatever reason, such as living in a low income country or out of principle, whatever. Or that pirating serves as demo and potentially some opt to legally by the game....etc...etc.....never ending arguments for and against. But in this case, due to the controversy of them advertising on steam for months on end and at the last minute opt for an epic exclusive, the effect may clearly be that many more opt for the CPY crack out of spite. I personally have no issues with a game being released on this platformm or another, but the way they acted with this particular game was asking for a backlash, either CPY route, outright boycott or wait for a year for steam, and or mega discount. I know this site does not allow talk about pirating, but in this case I think CPY did a favor to the game industry, where the gaming industry needs to pay more attention to customer reactions to their questionable business decisions.

 

It also seems as Denuvo has more of a negative impact on the game than positive lol. EXE file becomes like 100mb larger and FPS drop significantly. Have no idea why it was made in the first place, games with the latest anti piracy system get cracked so quickly it isn’t worth it, this is why some companies don’t use it. Plus it costs a lot to add into a game. I used to pirate a lot when I was younger but now I have the money to buy games and this game in my mind is worth buying.
I remember I used to play metro last light on the school laptops lol during project design lessons. That one part where you had to ring the bell and kill all the monsters was impossible to complete too (on a laggy computer).

 

That is one of the great mysteries of gaming. Copy protection does nothing but harm the legit consumers by bogging down the system.

Besides I am fairly sure there was a study done that showed piracy does nothing to harm sales because legit users are gonna buy it regardless and pirates are gonna pirate. I'll post it if I find it. I'm on mobile right now.

And the obligatory inb4, I don't support piracy. I am a legit owner of the game on STEAM.

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NBR is strict in regards of this topic, just thought it was relevant in this particular case. Independent if copy protection actually affects performance or if it indeed helps sales in the first weeks or months before it is cracked, there are some developers that have made it a point to show that what matters is releasing good games and offering continual support, such as CD projekt among others. Since CPY was brought up here....I think in this particular case, whatever damage or not that piracy actually causes to sales in general, this crack might be more impactful on sales due to their recent decision to make the game an epic exclusive at the last moment, despite months of steam exposure.

 

Yea, it's definitely going to be interesting on how this plays out. Personally I hope it works out for them but hopefully they keep in mind a lot of us won't go for those shenanigans twice.

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Epic’s war with Steam means gamers in China can’t play Metro Exodus
Fortnite maker’s new games store is causing a stir
Josh Ye Published 2 days ago
https://www.abacusnews.com/digital-...-china-cant-play-metro-exodus/article/3000866

"Just weeks before launching the hugely-awaited Metro Exodus, a surprise announcement sparked the anger of gamers around the world.

The developers announced that the PC game would become exclusive to the Epic Games Store, a new challenger to the dominance of Steam. Gamers were furious about having to access a separate platform to access their games.

But in China, the move from Steam to Epic means more than just inconvenience. It means the game isn’t available at all -- in the world’s biggest gaming market.
...
In the meantime, gamers in China still can’t play Metro Exodus. And the developer’s apology isn’t doing it for them.

We're sorry to confirm that the Epic Games Store is currently unavailable in China, and we apologize to our fans in China who are unable to purchase Metro Exodus as a result. — Metro Exodus (@MetroVideoGame) February 15, 2019

As one forum poster pointed out: “Hi there. You’re apologizing from Twitter, which is also inaccessible from China.”"

Epic Games needs to improve its security and support systems
Damien Mason 1 day ago
https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/dami...-to-improve-its-security-and-support-systems/

"At the end of last year, cyber security specialists at Sixgill told KitGuru that Epic Games’ lack of security was allowing criminals to pinch Fortnite accounts and effectively launder money. Despite catering to an entire store now, it seems as though the company is still lacking in this area as affected players continue to come forward.

Redditor andro-bourne took to the PC Gaming subreddit to share their story of a hacked Fortnite: Save the World account, seeing $205 siphoned from their attached credit card in May, 2018. After retrieving the account through the usual password recovery system and removing payment details, their attempts to rectify the situation with Epic Games was met with silence.

After three days of no response, andro-bourne issued a chargeback with their bank. Epic Games immediately responded following this, permanently disabling the account in order to “protect” the user with no means of recovery or reactivation. This rubs salt in the wound, given that the user was dealing with the paid Save the World version of Fortnite rather than its free-to-play Battle Royale counterpart, but even the latter would see many microtransactions lost if it were the alternative.

Overall, this highlights fundamental flaws within Epic Games current system. While it has introduced improvements since mid-2018 such as two-factor authentication (2FA), its support seems almost non-existent. Users can interact with the company via the ticket submission system, which was largely ignored in this case, via email or its web contact. This certainly draws attention to the Store’s lack of features, particularly the absence of its own forums.

This should have been a priority case when dealing with the security of a user’s details and funds on their account. There should also have been alternative measures implemented before the automatic shutdown, especially when the user has already done most of the legwork in retrieving the account, removing the credit card and highlighting the specific payments. Users should not be made to feel like they will indefinitely lose their account when trying to retrieve their stolen money.

KitGuru Says: Hopefully Epic listens to stories like these and begins to bolster security. In the meantime, everyone using the store should activate 2FA and do their best not to keep credit card details saved to the system. Have you been affected by Epic Games’ security or support?"

Why I will never use Epic Launcher
submitted 1 day ago * by andro-bourne 2401 comments
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/asbep8/why_i_will_never_use_epic_launcher/?sort=new

smcgarvey 1 point 10 hours ago
"They did this to me over Christmas. Had to borrow money to buy presents because my bank account was drained and Epic dragged their feet. I even had 2FA on."

TiffyMissWiffy 1 point 11 hours ago
"My account got hacked too before 2-auth was added, thankfully I have no cc info saved but they changed my username to something like xhotsaucex, which I could not change as you can only do a name change every 90 days..."

jkrude 1 point 17 hours ago
"I had to restart my Sims game four times because every time Epic Launcher was updated it erased all of my save data. It ruined the Sims 4 for me and I haven't played more than a few hours after the last time it reset. I went back to Steam to play Sims 3. Anyone who's used Epic knows it's ****."

slimegodmillionaire 2 points 18 hours ago
"Lol epic only responded because this post gained traction and was golded. They can **** off. Thankfully you got your account back, but like you said if you went through normal channels you probably wouldn't have."

andro-bourne[ S] 1 point 13 hours ago
"Yep correct. I never got a response from when I started the ticket until I made this post. Only response I received was a bot stating my account was perma ban. That is what I'm trying to explain here is its not really about the ban of my account. its about personal info, security and funds and what it took to get them to even look into the issue was down straight sad."

 

So they are doing the same thing as EA did with origin accounts. If you went to your payment processor to recover the funds they would seize your account and lock it indefinitely even some times deleting it.

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Maybe Tencent can bring over some of these rules to impose strict control and organization to the Epic Game Store? Maybe Tencent will stop blocking Epic in China if it "makes good" on the new rules?

Tencent imposes new regulations on streamers in China
The rules are intended to foster a "healthier environment" and ensure that everybody complies with the law.
By Andy Chalk 2 days ago
https://www.pcgamer.com/tencent-imposes-new-regulations-on-streamers-in-china/

"Chinese gaming giant Tencent has implemented a number of new rules to govern the conduct of streamers playing its games online. According to a report by Asian games market intelligence firm Niko Partners, the rules were prompted by heightened supervision of livestreamers by the Chinese government over the past year.

The company listed 12 "values" that it expects its streamers to abide by, prohibiting the following:

• Violation of China’s social values involving sensitive topics such as politics, ethnicity and religion
• Promoting or publishing content that violates China’s social values, including but not limited to pornography, gambling, terrorism
• Behavior that damages the Tencent Games brand directly or indirectly
• Distributing false information to other users through any means
• Engaging in vulgar or indecent information
• Distributing or promoting game cheat software or virus software
• Promoting excessive violence in game or in the real world
• Infringing on the privacy of other users or revealing other users information without permission
• Failure to abide by rules of the contract signed with third parties (streaming platforms)
• Infringing the copyright of game makers or other content creators
• Causing disputes or adverse social impact
• Other actions that do not comply with current laws, ethics and game regulations

"We note that China’s regulators have been pushing for a healthier environment in both the games industry and live streaming industry more strongly recently," Niko Partners said. "A number of live streaming sites and streamers have been banned in the past for hosting questionable content. There have also been regulations that prohibit the streaming of games that are not approved for sale in China."

The rules are wide-ranging and in some instances, like "causing disputes or adverse social impact," extremely vague. However, Niko Partners analyst Daniel Ahmad confirmed on Twitter that they will only apply to Chinese streamers.

"There is a natural copyright relationship between gaming contents and live streaming platforms," Tencent said in a message posted to Chinese social media site Weibo (via The Esports Observer). "Tencent, as a gaming streaming platform leader and game publisher, has the responsibility to promote the standardization and authorization of streaming contents in the industry."

Streamers who fail to adhere to the guidelines may be barred from streaming Tencent games in the future, and there are potentially serious repercussions beyond that..."

48% Owners of Epic, Tencent, imposes new regulations on streamers in China
submitted 1 day ago by mooo25
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/asowor/48_owners_of_epic_tencent_imposes_new_regulations/

Berserker66666 121 points 1 day ago
"Not even surprised. Tencent, co-operating with the Chinese government is in the habit of mass censoring and subsequent persecuting of Chinese people of anyone who says anything...ANYTHING "unfavorable" towards them.

[ ...added titles and quotes...]

China's WeChat Is a Censorship Juggernaut
http://fortune.com/2017/04/14/china-wechat-tencent-censorship-709-crackdown/ "

"Researchers tested censorship using terms related to the imprisonment of 250 human rights lawyers and workers starting in the summer of 2015. The episode earned the moniker “709 crackdown” for the first disappearances of two lawyers on July 9th, 2015. The topic has since gained attention inside and outside the country as the biggest crackdown on human rights workers since just after the Tiananmen Square massacre. In January, one lawyer’s description of his treatment was made public. “I’m going to torture you until you go insane,” human rights lawyer Xie Yang said one of his interrogators told him."

China’s Tech Giants Have a Second Job: Helping Beijing Spy on Its People
Tencent and Alibaba are among the firms that assist authorities in hunting down criminal suspects, silencing dissent and creating surveillance cities
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas...ping-the-government-see-everything-1512056284

CC_Keyes 265 points 1 day ago
" The company listed 12 "values" that it expects its streamers to abide by, prohibiting the following:

Behavior that damages the Tencent Games brand directly or indirectly

Isn't that literal censorship? That's like Reddit introducing a rule saying you're not allowed to make negative comments about Reddit."

China Wants Reddit, and So Much More | US China | China Uncensored
China Uncensored
Premiered Feb 13, 2019
Chinese state-backed company Tencent is leading a venture funding round that makes Reddit, the self-styled “front page of the internet,” worth over 3 billion dollars, and Reddit users are furious.

 

Society's lowest common denominators always ruin things for everyone else. It applies to everything in life, but technology is one of the places where it is readily obvious. The other areas areas in life where it is immediately obvious are not open for discussion because they are not technology related. BGA garbage... MaxQ trash... thin and light space heaters... DRM... Office as a subscription... Windows as a service... UWP app garbage... a bottomless pit of filth, and all of it tied in one way or another to greed or stupidity, or a combination thereof.

On another note, I sold one of my leftover Clevo parts on eBay and used the money to get Metro Exodus today. So, kind of got it for free instead of having to wait for the price to fall to $20 like I usually do. So, now I have one game title in the Epic Games client. Woopty-doo. I'll probably buy it again on Steam for less than $20 later on and forget that I already own in on Epic.

 

The Epic Store is different: Why exclusives should worry you
Overlord Gaming
Published on Feb 22, 2019
The Epic Store is setting disturbing trends with their shady terms of service that give them all rights to your content while leaving you liable for their actions.


The Epic Monopoly - How Epic Store Exclusives are bringing console wars to PC
Overlord Gaming
Published on Feb 16, 2019
Epic's unprecedented move to make as many games exclusive to their store. This comprehensive analysis examines all games that have become Epic exclusives, exploring why their studios restricted their customer's choices to just one.

 

I have a few hours under my belt now and I agree... as smooth as glass and truly gorgeous with RTX, DLSS, Hairworks, Tessellation and Ultra settings. Running at 2560x1440, G-stink disabled, I am seeing over 100 FPS (almost never below 90 FPS) on average with the 7960X at 4.8GHz and the 2080 Ti running stock. This is a real masterpiece as far as I am concerned. No hiccups at this point that I can see.

As documented by Steve @ GamersNexus, the Metro Exodus benchmark results are consistently well below actual gameplay (seems to be more graphically demanding than typical gameplay). Yet, I am still getting really excellent results from the benchmark as well. The benchmark seems to be roughly 20% lower average FPS than what I see while playing. The lowest framerate in the benchmark is at the end, where you move outside from the burning building to all of the grass, trees and leaf debris blowing in the wind and the buck running across the screen.

 

There's a lot of metrics that say a game sells a rather large percentage of it's copies in the week or two on release. 5 days was probably enough to get some fence sitters to pony up.

 

I was looking forward to this game but i refuse to install the epic game store. Will wait for the steam version a year later.

Very anti consumer the exclusivity on epoc platforms.

 

Is the game worth getting even after all the epic games BS?

 

Yes, it's awesome. Great story, great FPS survival horror gameplay with a mix of open-world mechanics and tightly-focused missions. Highly recommend.

 

With ongoing Metro: Exodus bugfixes and tuning + Nvidia driver RTX / DLSS bugfixes and tuning updates, Metro: Exodus should be ready on Steam by 02/15/20.

Based on how it looks now and how I hope it looks by 02/15/20, I'll enjoy playing Metro: Exodus and adding it to my steam collection of Metro games. Can wait.


https://twitter.com/PsycloneJoker/status/1099334145824706560
https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1099221091833176064

 

I agree with @Prototime and say get it if you want it. It is excellent. I am having no issues with it. I understand why some people are torqued about the Epic store thing, but there are plenty of other things worth getting worked up over. My preference would have been to have it on Steam, but it's not worth losing any sleep over as far as I am concerned. I am all for developers getting a bigger share, and I don't view Steam as being perfect either. In six months nobody will give a rat's ass. It is just something new to complain about.

 

People are talking about Steam, but all I want is this game to be available on GOG...

 

I would personally be happy to have it on either.

Personally I think people should be able to buy it on any platform of their choosing.

I wouldn't say timed exclusives wouldn't be a bad thing if they where like that right off the bat. But after awhile we should be able to buy on any platform they want.

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Metro Exodus players are leaving thousands of positive reviews - on Steam

 

I'd rate it as ok.
The story is great but the constant dialogue and anna influence has me meh at the moment.
Love the original metro 2033 and it looks way better too.
Currently half way through the new one.

 

Is there any report on how much sales on PC as of now?

 

While I think it is a masterpiece and looks amazing with everything cranked up, my preference in games is a run and gun experience with no dialogue, no puzzles, no crafting, etc. I prefer a linear non-stop action, more like a Quake or Unreal Tournament gaming scenario. A deep story line is not necessary and I generally find it annoying. I have to say that under most circumstances I would have already lost interest and uninstalled most games with this much story line. I have been kind of negative and very indifferent about RTX features being over-hyped, and still think it is. NVIDIA over-hypes things any time they have something new to sell. But, there is no comparison in the visual quality of this new one to Metro 2033. It is vastly superior the way I see it, and I normally do not notice. Are you playing it with hardware that can handle all of the new features?

This video contains the opening cut-scene movie and a few minutes of gameplay with all the settings maxed out and everything turned on except G-Stink and V-stink. I played it in 1440p and upscaled it to 4K to help minimize the typical YouTube quality degradation.