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    The Ongoing Disasters of the EPIC Games Store

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by hmscott, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. hmscott

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    Epic Store Boss Calls Paradox “Greedy” After Publisher Removes Bloodlines 2 from EGS Sale
    David Dominguez / 1 day ago
    https://www.gamingonpc.com/general-...publisher-removes-bloodlines-2-from-egs-sale/

    Ha, when a group of similarly minded souls get together, and fight over the best way to get the last dollar. Ya gotta love it when a plan doesn't come together.

    "Hey, ya gotta's play da game right, or da sucker's will catch on, capeesh? Wink Wink."

    Given enough time they'll all compete ["out smart" each other] for the last scraps instead of working together in a mutually trusting way to the benefit of all.

    That's why Steam and the other's can sit back and watch the clown show and not worry about it.
     
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    Ah hahaha... hmscott you sir are is awesome
     
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    :)) Not hard at all, I guessed on the first try
     
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    Hopefully they tank or straighten up soon.
    I'm good with either. Lol

    Honestly I laughed my ass off as I heard about people being banned for buying games too fast or buying games to gift friends.

    Particularly because as my friend told me I was busy buying out steams Warhammer section at once.

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    Steam sales are awesome :)

    Publishers PULL OUT & Suspicious Price Changes: Epic’s Mega Sale Misfire
    Bellular News
    Published on May 17, 2019
    Epic have done what Epic do: bungle up communications and leave everyone confused!


    EGS, if they weren't so evil, they'd be cute the way they keep messing up. ;)
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    This video is viewable only on reddit:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/****epic/comments/bqhed5/i_thought_you_guys_would_like_this/
    Remember to replace the **** with the "bird" word...

    Updated Steam vs Epic Feature Chart
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    It's almost as if Epic Games is trying to single-handedly destroy the PC Platform.
    submitted 13 hours ago by Amnail
    https://www.reddit.com/r/****epic/comments/bqmjyo/its_almost_as_if_epic_games_is_trying_to_single/
    Remember to replace the **** with the "bird" word...
     
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    The Epic Game Store has no shopping cart, but if you buy individual games too quickly your account gets blocked... amazing way to encourage purchases - during a Mega Sale.

    Epic Games Store Will Block Your Account If You Buy Too Many Games Too Quickly

    Luke Plunkett, Yesterday 7:30pm
    https://kotaku.com/epic-games-store-will-block-your-account-if-you-buy-too-1834905266
    https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/br38t0/epic_games_store_will_block_your_account_if_you/

    Edit: Missed this one (darned YT subscriber alarm disabled), it's quite good, covers the material with a light hearted humor, but doesn't miss a trick...

    The EPIC STORE SALE is a Complete DISASTER!!
    HeelvsBabyface
    Published on May 21, 2019
    The EPIC STORE is having it's first major sale and it's turned into an utter disaster. Companies are removing games, raising prices to compensate for the sale and to cap it all off people are having their accounts locked after only 5 purchases!! What is going on??
     
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    Seriously, did someone even beta test the freaking thing?
    Was Epic launcher made by some school student? It's 2019 and their launcher lacks some serious functionality...
     
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    Interestingly, I got a different read than both the article author and the video commentator on the 2nd follow up quote from the article:

    Metro Exodus publisher says the Epic store is its “leading digital platform” in unit sales [wrong, console sales were greater than PC sales]
    https://www.pcgamesn.com/metro-exodus/sales

    "“ Epic Games store has exceeded our expectations in terms of sales in actual units of both Metro Exodus and Satisfactory during the quarter,” Wingefors tells us. “Epic Games store is in fact the group’s leading digital platform in terms of revenue generated by units sales in the quarter ending March.”"

    I don't blame them for missing it, as the meaning rely's on a careful parsing of the statement. Let's break it down further...

    "... the groups leading digital platform in terms of revenue generated by units sales..."

    That part in bold is the key, and simply means that each unit sold generates more revenue on the Epic platform than the other platforms, - which we already know is 88% - which is a higher cut than any other platform, including consoles - which are 70% cut for digital and 50% cut for physical.

    Removing the double plural makes it easier to catch: "... in terms of revenue generated by unit sold...".

    It's the way it's worded that is meant to misdirect and confuse - making the reader read into it what they expect to read.

    We still don't know what the actual sales numbers were for each platform, and of course they'll never know how many they would have sold if they had kept the game on Steam, the platform it was advertised on and pre-sold on - before it was ripped off from Steam and put on Epic at the last minute.

    The article also quoted just before the above quote:

    " During its latest financial results, THQ Nordic noted that Metro Exodus sales made it “the largest game launch” in the company’s history, but that the “absolute majority” of those sales were on console. Many fans of the historically computer-focused series took that to mean PC players had abandoned the game over its Epic store exclusivity, but CEO Lars Wingefors says that’s not the case. "

    As shown in the video the previous Metro releases sold far more "units" on PC than console:
    Epic Metro Exodus flop.jpg
     
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    I thought this should belongs here...
    submitted 17 hours ago by hwhite333
    https://www.reddit.com/r/****epic/comments/bsuxse/i_thought_this_should_belongs_here/
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    https://twitter.com/cennxx/status/1128408696139198464'

    It's nice to see a developer voice their position, and to be so open and pure in their responses. Even though there are a number of negative spins on her comments - trying to belittle or reduce the impact of her statements, in the end the overwhelming customer response is of positive support and appreciation.
     
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    :mad: Outer Wilds is supposed to be out today. I'm mad because it looks like yet another cool little game I won't play.

     
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    You can buy it on the microshaft store.

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    Good to know. As unbelievable as this may sound, I don't have an account there either. I only have steam and uplay. Not looking to expand this list for now :)
     
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    A little startling as it's the same account as an Xbox or Hotmail/outlook but hey I have seen weirder stuff go down. Lol

    But all in all no worries here mate. I just hope they take advantage of Galaxy 2.0 to manage games etc. A lot more palatable than having to dig through the start tiles that seem to be chosen at random.

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    Microsoft is promoting Steam Sales as an outlet for their "exclusive" games. :)

    Microsoft is bringing more games to Steam, says 'We believe you should have choice in where you buy your PC games'
    By Wes Fenlon 2019-05-30T13:01:03Z
    https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-games-on-steam-announced/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/****epic/comments/busyk9/microsoft_is_bringing_more_games_to_steam_says_we/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/but50c/microsoft_is_bringing_more_games_to_steam_says_we/

    Microsoft partners with Steam against Epic to bring every Windows Store Exclusive on Steam!
    https://www.reddit.com/r/****epic/comments/butpzd/microsoft_partners_with_steam_against_epic_to/
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    That last part means Microsoft may list on EGS too, it was nice that MS did the roll-out with Steam first, the other way around would have been... messy.

    Microsoft SNIPE Epic Store, Come Out FOR Consumer Freedom & STEAM | Outer Worlds 180?!
    Bellular News
    Published on May 30, 2019
    Microsoft have big plans for PC! Game Pass, X-Cloud, and a commitment towards supporting consumer platform choice - something that’s calls Xbox Game Studio Obsidan’s Epic Exclusive The Outer Worlds into question.


    Microsoft Won't Participate in Epic Store Exclusivity & Will Bring More Games to Steam
    YongYea
    Published on May 30, 2019
     
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    So back in Win8 days GabeN itched and moaned about Microsoft on how they are trying to close down the OS.
    And now MS is teaming up with Valve. I guess an enemy of your enemy is your friend.
    Because now mentally challenged Tim Sweaney did the same statement as once GabeN did:
    [​IMG]

    On a side note, I wish MS would also give some love to GoG...
     
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    Forza will sell millions upon millions on Steam.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if it sold solidly.

    They are gonna sell a lot more games on PC now.

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    A couple of EPIC Games Store related news items...it's actually less than I expected. Perhaps publishers / devs are learning to listen to their customers?

    IDK when this happened, but Metro Exodus is no longer exclusive on EGS, and is selling right now on the Microsoft Game Store for $35.99($24 off):
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/metro-exodus/c1tbtqbvjmfl

    It looks like it's very recent:

    Epic Games store exclusive Metro Exodus PC is available to buy on the Microsoft Store
    9 June 2019
    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...pc-is-available-to-buy-on-the-microsoft-store

    And, Shenmue III still showing on Steam as available November 19, 2019 is now another (Deep Silver) turncoat sellout to EGS, abandoning backers promised to be released on Steam - via a kickstarter that raised $7.2M!!

    Shane Luis ‏Verified account @RerezTV
    Over 600 people are flooding the Shenmue 3 Kickstarter update announcing it's Epic Store exclusivity for PC. Majority are demanding a refund for the game. Since they announced it's an exclusivity they broke the agreement with backers who were promised/purchased a Steam version.
    https://twitter.com/RerezTV/status/1138189544417873920

    No word on if this will ever release on Steam... or if it's going through as planned on November 19th. It's all new news, so more details later - I'll add it here...

    Epic Games Store - E3 2019 Announcements
    Epic Games
    Published on Jun 10, 2019
    EGS E3 2019 Announcements 5006 Thumbs down.JPG
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/****epic/comments/bznzyf/reupload_im_so_fucking_proud_of_this_community/

    And, another previous Epic Exclusive is now available outside of EGS:

    " The Outer Worlds will be available on the Xbox Game Pass [PC] when it launches on October 25, Microsoft confirmed at its E3 conference earlier today."
    https://www.pcgamesn.com/the-outer-worlds/xbox-game-pass

    Microsoft TAKE Outer Worlds, NO LONGER Epic Exclusive, Next Xbox Revealed & Major Reveals
    Bellular News
    Published on Jun 10, 2019
    Well here we go: a next gen console, loads of games and a doubling down on Game Pass - one that oddly enough comes at Epics expense.


    Kickstarter Shenmue 3 by Ys Net - Only backers can post comments
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2532170/comments?page=1
     
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    If this Twitter post is to be believed, the game will come out on Steam at some indeterminate point. Fat lot of good that will do the backers who signed up for a Steam key (myself among them). The comments on that Kickstarter post are now well in excess of 1,200. The Shenmue fanbase is rabid, and they are beyond angry right now. Even people who backed only the PS4 version are sympathetic. Yu Suzuki has stated that he doesn't want S3 to be the last game of the series, but I think this decision has now sealed the franchise's fate once and for all. The only thing that can save it now is for them to pull a Metro Exodus and give Steam keys to backers as was first promised.
     
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    Sadly Shenmue 3 seems to be going the worst so far, no Steam keys - Epic Only - and No Refunds! After looking at all of the backer levels, with amazingly high levels of investment - well beyond the simple cost of the game, I don't think this is going to go well in the long run for backers. Been a fan myself since my Sega Dreamcast version, but wasn't a backer, although I saw it start up back in 2015 at the time it wasn't of interest - I think I saw all of the "goodies" and thought better of getting involved. Glad to see it almost made it on it's own without Epic, too bad it got sucked in by Deep Silver.

    EPIC WON’T STOP | Shenmue 3 Exclusive, NO REFUNDS & POACHED Valve Game | + 31 GAME PC E3 Breakdown
    Bellular News
    Published on Jun 11, 2019
    The Epic Sponsored PC Gaming Show was refreshing game focused, giving us lots to cover, but also revealing Epics attempt to Snipe Auto Chess from Valve, as well as the Shenmue 3 situation - yes, another Kickstarted game has been gobbled up. All that, and loads of games, coming up.
     
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    At the time the Kicstarter ended, the average average backer pledge was more than $80. I personally put up more than $200 for physical PS4 and PC versions on top of in-game unlocks and a t-shirt. At the very least, I can change my reward to a second PS4 copy that I can sell.

    A theory I've read says that Epic must have thrown a fortune of money at Deep Silver for this, and they took it because the game is unlikely to sell very well at retail since the fanbase already "pre-ordered" it via the Kickstarter. This makes a degree of sense, but at the same time, they've completely incinerated all the good will that has been a part of the fanbase for nearly two decades. Maybe Ys Net didn't have a choice in the matter, but they will suffer the consequences.

    Now this is still my favorite video game franchise of all time. In the extremely unlikely event that a fourth installment gets the green light and is done through Kickstarter, I will back it, but only for the bare minimum to secure a copy.
     
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    Yeah, the sad part is that they did the deal to turn a profit on this instance, but might have burned out their opportunity at a continuation.
     
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    This review of the granduer and disappointment of Shenmue Dreamcast, brought home all the reasons I didn't follow up and join the Kickstarter in the first place.

    The slowness of the pace, the difficulty of finding or following clues and direction in the game, and finally the timing element tied to the game time of day with events needed to progress happening only once a day.

    If you missed the time you needed to "let the clock run out till another day" in the game, this being not as often as you might think but when it happens it brings about a certain kind of frustration that was purposful but I can understand why it's not appreciated by most players.

    Then there are the localization to English being --- limited --- and the seemingly conflicting words vs actions which turns out to have been developer misunderstandings of the directions given by their boss Yu Suzuki.

    This all was a lot to get through, but knowing it was a blockbuster development ($46M?), coupled with it being the killer game for Sega Dreamcast helped.

    That was until it became clear that Shenmue 1 was only part of the story, a rather sparse one at that, and that there were 15 more parts of the 16 part story...

    So, is Shenmue III part 3 of the story? With 12 more parts left to tell the whole story?

    The Tragic History of Shenmue
    Super Eyepatch Wolf
    Published on Jun 12, 2019
    A long time ago, Sega made Shenmue, a weird forklift simulator, and some people didn’t like it, BUT I DID


    Not sure I'll miss Shenmue III if it stays on EGS and doesn't get put into full release...

    Given Shenmue's arguably tragic history coupled with heroic levels of effort and resource expenditures, the payout being taken from EGS seems almost inevitable.

    Even with $7M in raised funds doesn't come close to the Shenmue 1 $46M budget, and although I doubt EGS made up that difference, the endless consumption of resources by Yu Suzuki for this series is enabled by such windfall's.
     
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    The very slow, methodical pacing of the OG Shenmue was a deliberate design decision by Yu Suzuki because he wanted players to become truly immersed in the world. While it worked well for his home Japanese audience, it didn't so much for gamers in the West. This situation was rectified in Shenmue II with the ability to fast forward time until the next story trigger. I wish they would have brought this to the first game when it was re-released last year.

    The $46 million figure is also not entirely accurate because it encompassed the unreleased Sega Saturn version of the game, which was quite a ways into development before it was moved to the Dreamcast. It also incorporates some of Shenmue II. The actual cost for the first game that was released on the Dreamcast is closer to $20-$23 million. Still not a small chunk of change, especially for the late 1990s, but nowhere near the $46-$70 million that have been widely reported.

    The Shenmue saga was designed to be 15-16 acts spread over the course of seven games. The two games that were released were basically the first five acts, well more like four and half since the last part of Shenmue II is not very long and almost entirely story/conversation driven.

    Who can forget Peter Moore stabbing fans in the back when he jumped ship to Microsoft from Sega and announced that Shenmue II would be an Xbox exclusive? It was so bad that Gamestop of all places imported European Dreamcast copies (which were subtitled in English) that they bundled with a boot disc so the game could be played on a North American Dreamcast.
     
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    Thanks for the deep background, I'd heard a range for the costs, and picked the lower value. Subtracting costs for unfinished unreleased content makes sense, even so it shows that Yu's accustomed to a lot of cash and resources at his command. I am not surprised he jumped at the ability to increase his resources through EGS, that is if he even had a vote in it given that Deep Silver was involved.

    I don't think we've heard from Yu yet on the subject of what happened and who made the decisions?

    Shenmue 3 is exclusive to the Epic Games Store, gets a new trailer (updated)
    https://www.pcgamer.com/shenmue-3-is-coming-to-the-epic-games-store-gets-a-new-trailer/

    "...Creator Yu Suzuki appeared on stage at the PC Gaming Show briefly to thank fans and introduce the new trailer, but didn't address this new development. "
     
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    Shenmue was originally conceived as Virtua Fighter RPG, but Yu Suzuki had a different vision. Sega was not risk-averse, so they give him the green light to change it to the game as we know it. Suzuki was basically Sega's Shigeru Miyamoto but with even more creative freedom.

    From what I understand, Suzuki was approached by other publishers during Shenmue III's development, but they wanted him to alter the game in some fundamental way. Deep Silver must have given him the autonomy he wanted to pursue his vision as he saw fit, with the condition that they have exclusive control over publishing, marketing, and distribution. We need to remember the EGS didn't exist either at the time of the Kickstarter or when Ys Net signed on with Deep Silver. Further, Suzuki has had a good relationship with the fan community. As such, I truly believe he had little to no say in this decision. Hopefully once the game is out, someone will spill the tea as to exactly what went down.
     
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    The game pass for Windows Live service is up and running in beta.

    So far it works ok, I can buy most if not all the games on the Windows store through it.

    Metro is on it if you have game pass.

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    Can you purchase Metro if you have the pass?
     
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    If you have the pass you have metro until such a file the pass expires.

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    So it's like PlayStation Plus. Don't feel like signing up for another subscription service, so I'll probably pass on this one.

    An "update" (if you can call it that) on the S3 situation: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2536393

    As I said in my comment on the page, there's not much for them to discuss. They simply need to provide the Steam keys that have been advertised since the launch of the campaign. At this point, I wouldn't even really care if I didn't get a physical disc for PC, as long as I can play it on the platform I paid for.

    Well before this change was announced, I had signed up for an Epic account. Well, not any more.

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    A true Shenmue III fan expresses his EPIC disappointment...I can relate to his pain...

    Shenmue 3 is now an Epic Games Store exclusive: Do you know where refunds hangout?
    It'sAGundam
    Published on Jun 11, 2019


    Heads up, there is now a Steam Community for EPIC rants:
    https://steamcommunity.com/groups/NoExclusiveGames
     
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    In an amazing turn of events, PC backers unhappy with the EPIC "Shanghai" of Shenmue 3 will be able to get switched to PS4, or both a EGS and a Steam Key for PC, or get a full refunds for Shenmue 3. Details are still being worked out, see below.
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2553891

    "...
    Response Policy

    The team would like to offer the following:

    Version Availability

    a. PC Physical: Package (Disc) + EGS Key

    b. PC Digital: EGS Key

    c. PS4 Physical: Package (Disc)

    d. PS4 Digital: PSN Voucher Code

    *If selecting either the PC Physical or PC Digital version, an option to also receive a Steam key one year later will be available. Backers must manually select this option in the survey to receive the Steam key.

    **If you had previously selected PC and want to change to PS4 or vice versa, you may do so.
    ...
    Concerning Refunds

    Along with Deep Silver and Epic Games, we have agreed that should the above proposal not be acceptable to backers, refund requests will be honored.

    Details concerning the refund request process will be announced in a following update. We ask for your patience until that time.

    *In the case rewards within your reward tier, such as in-game content, have already been created and implemented, a full refund may not be possible."
     
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    hmscott I suppose this should be a private message however I was wondering if you could teach me how to properly search the interent so I can help NBR as a whole, and maybe help more people out besides recommending laptops to people...your insight is out of this world and I have no Idea how you do it...I just did a genius IQ test And I got all the questions right it was through an australian newspaper. So I have potential, however I never seem to apply myself, I'm always lazily carrying out tasks and duties. sometimes people can have great potential but never exploit their strengths.
     
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    Update: If you made the mistake of signing up for Epic Games Store you should check your inventory to make sure all of your installed games are represented in the list of games you "own". If you ever need to install on another computer or need to reinstall Windows on your current computer you may find you can't install free or purchased games older than 90 days in your visible inventory. Make sure you keep your purchase confirmation emails and for your free videos request confirmation by Epic Customer Service so you have a record of the "purchase" as EGS doesn't currently (or in the past) send out confirmation of your free games purchases.

    Epic Games Store Fail Update: Purchase History Broken and Tim Sweeney Responds



    SidAlpha has a number of EGS related coverage, check out his video uploads:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/GreyWolf779/videos

    dl;dr - It appears there are multiple problems with the games list for users on EGS. It only shows 90 days inventory for games purchased, and for many their free "purchases" done get a confirmation so if the listing drops off the inventory they can't re-install. This appears to happen for purchased games too as mentioned by a post I'll include below. Users have tried to reinstall free games, find it's missing, try to get Epic to restore the inventory listing for the game and Epic refuses and there is no evidence of "purchase" so they have to purchase it if they want it back.

    Here's some information links about the subject and some posts:

    Epic Games Store FAILS AGAIN Removes games from customer accounts
    SidAlpha
    Published on Jul 15, 2019


    SidAlpha 1 week ago
    "Tim Sweeney has responded on Twitter. Here is the link to that response: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1150990046717255682?s=20 While his 2nd post does not make as much sense, I have sent him a DM directly in an attempt to see some of these issues resolved if possible. While I don't exactly have high hopes for a response, I'll make every attempt to help those who have lost games and/or accounts."

    Sid Alpha and Tim Sweeny interact, lots of other good comments as well
    https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1150990046717255682?s=20

    ChodaBoy ‏ @chodaboy Jul 16
    Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @SidAlpha @EpicGames
    I only have 1 Epic Games Account. My Library shows 17 games, the 90 day Purchase History shows only 9. How do I see my FULL Purchase History to see if all 17 games are there?

    Epic Games‏ Verified account @EpicGames Jul 16
    We currently show the last 90 days in your purchase history but are working to update to show your full history that is in our database.

    Akillermon‏ @Akillermon1 Jul 16
    Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @SidAlpha @EpicGames
    "put in a ticket and did not get a number or email to confirm you got my ticket.. missing a bunch of games from purchase history but they are still in my library.. Fix your Epic"

    Aemony‏ @_Aemony Jul 17
    "Any plans to enable mail notices when redeeming codes or free games? That would be helpful as it would leave a paper trail in users' mailboxes, and not only be on the purchase history page, of when a game was redeemed or unlocked."

    Tim Sweeney‏ @TimSweeneyEpic Jul 17
    "The team is working on this right now, but isn’t sure about timing."

    Znonymous‏ @Znonymous1
    Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @_Aemony and
    I"t gonna be before they even have shopping cart! LUL"

    Jimmy 'JR' Ray Tyner‏ @MachaPanta Jul 18
    Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @SidAlpha @EpicGames
    Email: [email protected] Missing games: Slime Rancher, Rime, Overcooked, I do not know how to find my support ticket numbers?

    More links to other threads mentioned in the video + additional:

    turns out "free" games from Epic is...
    https://steamcommunity.com/groups/NoExclusiveGames/discussions/0/1640916564838707697/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicGamesPC/comments/cc6xvs/why_are_my_egs_free_games_gone/
    TL;DR those "free" game is not tied to your account.

    https://twitter.com/TrialMacameau/status/1149441055298850816?s=09

    https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/5d094286b055990650fa6785
    https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/5d16fb4942fa560af42eaf67

    Edit: CORRECTION! Free games from Epic are not permanently tied to your account."

    We don´t need Epic game store
    https://steamcommunity.com/groups/NoExclusiveGames#announcements/detail/1598132368383517736

    For this subreddit, replace the **** with "the bird":

    Epic Games Store Fail Update: Purchase History Broken and Tim Sweeney Re...
    https://www.reddit.com/r/****epic/comments/ce5nwq/epic_games_store_fail_update_purchase_history/
    How to Delete your Epic Account.PNG

    Update:

    Epic Games Store: Missing Games SOLVED Tim Sweeney listened and acted
    SidAlpha
    Published on Jul 19, 2019
    Over the course of this week there has been a lot going on with Epic Games and the Epic Games Store due to my original video outlining missing games. Since then we have found missing payment history and surprisingly enough, Tim Sweeney responded to me on Twitter and has been open in DM’s about resolving this issue. As a result, my main recommendations have already been implemented and in this video I discuss what exactly has been happening, as well as a special hat tip to a very special Games Journalist.
     
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    Epic is better and better /facepalm...
    Thank god I removed its client from my computer. What a mess
     
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    I must have been living under a rock because this is the first time I hear about this.

    But yeah generally speaking, not a good look for a dev to threaten the PC community. Pretty immature.

    Also EGS removing free games from people's libraries is shady as hell. Hope they rectify this situation soon, or they should be ostracized.
     
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    Yup, and lots of stuff has happened since, plenty of interesting reading to catch up on. :)
     
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    Just reporting in.
    I'm still not playing Metro, haven't given in to the Epic mess and I have to say it's painful.

    A suggestion to help replace the urge to play, is to read the books. I've learned that the series is based on books only about a year ago and I have to say they are an excellent read.

    Look up Metro 2033 by Dmitry Glukhovsky (there's 3 books).
     
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    It's on the windows store now if you get the game pass. The new Xbox app makes it quite a bit less painful. Lol

    Sent from my LM-Q710.FGN using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes, Windows Store works great for me and is a good option if you don't want to use Epic Store.

    Another option is just buy a gaming console. This way you do not have to depend on some questionable games store like Epic Store and as an extra benefit you can save a lot on hardware upgrades and do not have to deal with buggy Nvidia drivers ;-) Plus you can still buy used games for cheap if you will buy it on disk. Then just sell it once you're done playing.
    Only drawback with consoles is that you will not see Nvidia RTX effects in games, but for people who don't care about those this is not an issue.
     
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    Also, forgot to add, the Metro Exodus is not based on Dmitriy's books, it's a separate story. I've read the books and they were better but the game and its story is also good. I recently played it and liked it - it combines stories from some other books not written by Gluhovskiy, the setting is realistic (fun fact: USSR and Russia has kept steam locomotives in reserve for a very long time in case the access to diesel fuel would be lost after nuclear war, there are still few ones left that are being given to museums), the graphics are beautiful (I recommend playing with RTX enabled, it makes big difference) and the story is interesting enough. Only things I did not like are the character animations which are not very well done. Also, make sure to use Russian voiceovers, the English really sounds strange because English actors try too hard to add Russian accent. You can enable English subtitles with Russian voiceovers.
     
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    I would like is the made metro in a movie orvtv series
     
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    As long as it's made by the people that are doing Amazon's stuff. Man in the high castle and that.

    They turned the nilfgardians in the witcher into literal cock and ballsacks. Won't be trusting them with adaptations again.

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    I would definitely watch that. The original Metro 2033 wouldn't even cost a lot to make since most of the stuff happens inside the tunnels, it would be easy to rent some abandoned station and parts of unused tunnel in some former USSR republic or some country where USSR built a metro, or even ask Elon Musk to rent his tunnel ;-)
    Russia or Ukraine could make it for very cheap but they're too busy with other stuff and in Russia absolutely no one is interested in making good movies because the government just gives away large amount of money to filmmakers even if their movie will turn to be a total **** and will not bring any profit (this is a sad fact and is often expressed in parody videos of famous Russian YT movie critic, BadComedian).
     
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    There was a plan for a while to film a Metro 2033 movie in DC. The idea was scrapped, much to the delight of the author, who thought an Americanized Metro adaptation taking place in DC wouldn't have worked out well. After the movie plans fell through, the film rights reverted to him. Who knows, maybe he'll secure a more faithful film deal someday.

    Details: https://www.polygon.com/2018/12/14/18140904/metro-2033-movie-mgm-production-stopped
     
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    I didn't know that. Maybe it's a good thing that it wasn't made by that movie company, some adaptations can be terrible. I hope he will finally find the right people for it, hopefully with actors who can speak Russian without accent (it would be very immersion breaking to me to hear typical "heavy Russian accent" emulated by people who don't speak it), you can find plenty of native Russian speakers even here in US.
     
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    I don't get the hate for Epic.

    Epic charge the developer 12%, Steam and Microsoft are gouging the developer for 30%.

    It's really a no brainer I wouldn't use them either.

    Same thing happened recently with another game Ooblets, developer signed an exclusive deal with Epic and suddenly gets bombarded with hate mail.
     
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    I don't really hate epic per se, it's just got no good features and it's mired in **** ups.

    Also I haven't really looked into the ooblets thing but from what I know in passing is they went about it like assholes.

    Supposedly instead of going "we are going epic because of x y and z."

    They went on a tirade about how gamers are toxic and entitled man children etc.



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    That actually doesn't sound too far off the mark; there's sadly a ton of toxicity in gamer culture. Though it's obviously not a great PR move for them to come out and say.


    Unrelated: Metro Exodus DLC "The Two Colones" should be arriving shortly. Still no release date other than "summer," but GeForce Drivers 431.60 are out and optimized for it.
     
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