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    The best Netbook for gaming.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by luffytubby, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah I know....it's bottlenecking an external HD4670 (that's also a hub system with the HDMI connector). My guess is the reason the AFO is downclocking the HD3200 is to make the external GPU look better. ;)
     
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    No your thinking of the vidock 2, not ATI XGP they're completely different, and it never contained a desktop 4670, it originally contained a note book 3870 video card and it never bottlenecked as it was fully PCI-E 2.0 compliant. ATI XGP used its own proprietary slot and not a expresscard slot. It was specifically designed for video cards.

    ATI XGP

    http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/ati-xgp/Pages/ati-xgp.aspx

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_XGP


    Vidock 2

    http://www.villagetronic.com/vidock/index.html
     
  3. Phinagle

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    yea it will be hopefully the CPU is upgradable unlikely if its a netbook though.
     
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    My mistake I thought you were referring to the Vidock 2, yea I am guessing its so ACER can make more money off the external video card making it look like its worth $200 US. the XGP is a good idea but on faster systems. AMD NEO @ 1.6 TO 2.0 Ghz would be allot better for the AFO, however its probably best to spend an extra $200 on a better laptop over the AFO price.
     
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    torres1 Newbie

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    hmm well I got an Asus Netbook the N10j with a 9300 gs and it plays more games. Awesome for on the go gaming! haha!
     
  7. HTWingNut

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    I had the N10J, but the 1024x600 screen and small keyboard drove me nuts. Many games I wanted to play needed 1024x768 minimum resolution and wouldn't run on the N10J.
     
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    Anyone else see the ASUS Eee PC 1005PE review? Didn't know the Pinetrail netbooks were coming out so soon? Thought they wouldn't show till after CES.
     
  9. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    NVIDIA Ion 2 coming in early 2010, compatible with Pine Trail. Switchable graphics?

    [​IMG]

     
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    cridgit001 Notebook Consultant

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    I know it goes on sale Jan 4th, I was saying that I didn't think the Pinetrail based netbooks would show till after CES, which is Jan 7-10th.
     
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    Switchable graphics?
    in our dreams. unfortunately.
     
  12. HTWingNut

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    Why in our dreams? Asus N10J did it, and that was one of the first. It was essentially an ION netbook before ION even existed. Granted the GMA950 wasn't on the die of the CPU but it was still switchable.
     
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    Was expecting a G216 core since the rumors were ION2 would have 2x(+) the cores....but with those clocks it will still be a performance increase.

    SemieAccurate is making it not being a chipset sound a lot worse than it is though...a GPU running off an overclocked PCIe slot so that it can fit in netbooks and ultrathins is still a pretty slick idea....and Intel more than Nvidia is to blame for ION2 not being a chipset.


    All that said though a 45nm Neo with an HD4500 chipset is looking even better now.
     
  15. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Well, I just pre-ordered the Asus 1201N today on Amazon for $484. That price for the dual core Atom and ION was just too good.
     
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    Thanks Mastershroom. Let us know how it works out! Give us some benchies if you could!
     
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    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Yo Gabba Gabba!
     
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    If only the Mini 5102 had ion 2....if only. A CULV would also be nice.
     
  21. HTWingNut

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    Looks nice. Except that the HD 3200 doesn't seem to perform any better than the GMA X4500 at least based on benchmarks of the Acer Ferrari One.

    I still don't get why they don't couple an ION with a CULV (i.e. SU7300 + ION)
     
  22. Phinagle

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    AFO's HD3200 was downclocked in those benches.


    Speaking of the AFO though:

    ATI XGP (eXternal Graphics Platform) Radeon 5830 Demo At CES 2010
     
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    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Only price I've seen so far for the XGP was $200 as part of a news article on the AFO. Haven't seen anything on sale yet in a shop.

    No info on the bottlenecks either.
     
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    Lenovo looks nice, but still only single core Neo. How hard is it to get a dual core CULV and dedicated GPU? The Eee 1201N looks decent, but it's an Atom CPU = :mad:

    I like the XGP idea, but I'd prefer the dedicated GPU on the go. It's nice because it gives you much more GPU power, but for on the go gaming, it still sucks. I'd rather get a 13" then.
     
  26. Phinagle

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    Alienware has an 11.6" coming out today.
     
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    Oh boy. As long as it's not super expensive. Crosses fingers. My be what I have been waiting for! If it is, guess I'll just have to wait a few months and buy a refurb from the Dell Outlet! Any site showing photos and/or specs yet?
     
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    http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/01/07/live.from.dells.press.conference/


    [​IMG]

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/live-from-dells-ces-2010-press-event/
     
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    be77solo pc's and planes

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    wow, I'm excited to see some specs and a price for the M11x
     
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    It's much larger than your average 11.6" having a very large screen bezel and extra thickness.


    Definitely not a netbook. Some places have reported C2D so it sounds like a CULV.
     
  32. 7words

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    It is possible to overclock the CPU and GPU of the Ferrari One:

    http://mini-gaming.co.cc/?cat=3
     
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    I think $999 is a little steep. I mean, if you can get a CULV SU7300 with GMA 4500MHD for $500, and an Atom dual core with ION for $500, why is the price differential $500 to get the best combination of both? Granted the GPU in the m11x is a lot more powerful, but still.

    I guess I'll have to wait for them to hit the outlet and get them for a couple hundred bucks cheaper, depending on how they turn out.

    That does look a lot thicker though than most other 11.6" notebooks out there.

    Anyone know where you might be able to buy a Ferrari One in the States?

    BTW +1 to 7words, thanks for that link.
     
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    The problem with the GMA 4500 is that a lot of things just plain won't run or will have a lot of problems due to drivers.

    I agree that an Ion with a CULV would be optimal, but I don't see it happening. Intel doesn't want such a device to cut into their high margin parts.

    I'm still contemplating the HD 3200/Neo combination, I'm just waiting for one to be released that has a sensible price. The x100e can be ordered for $449, but if I'm going to have to wait for delivery anyway, I might as well wait until I can actually buy one and see if something better comes along while I'm doing that waiting :p

    That Alienware one looks awesome, but I think it's going to end up being heavy enough that it defeats the purpose of an "ultra-portable". I already have 3 laptops that weigh a ton, I want one that is in the neighborhood of 3-3.5 lbs or less.
     
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    I've yet to find an Acer Ferrari One in stock in the US anywhere... NewEgg doesn't even have it listed currently, and amazon has never had them in stock that I've ever seen...
     
  37. KamiliaKoala

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    hey guys, just wondering whether the alienware m11x counts as a gaming netbook?
     
  38. HTWingNut

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    Actually I think we're to the point that is past netbooks. We're really looking at subcompact notebooks. And I don't even think that anyone knows what a netbook is anymore either really. But I don't think the m11x falls into that category. After looking at it, that thing looks huge.
     
  39. Phinagle

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    Most systems that are label as netbooks really aren't.
     
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    I'm have $700.What I should buy laptops for high graphic game?
     
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    Mastershroom wat

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    I just got my 1201N yesterday and installed TF2 and Halo: Combat Evolved. Other Steam games are currently downloading and will be tested later.

    Halo runs absolutely flawlessly on this thing at the native 720p with all settings maxed. Single player never lagged at all, even in really busy battles with lots of 'splosions and particles. Multiplayer had some slight lag, but of the network variety rather than graphical. Granted, the game came out on PC in 2003, but still, I've seen it running on "standard" netbooks (i.e. single core Atom and GMA 950), and it struggles to push 20 fps at 800x600. And here I've got it working at 1366x768 with all effects at their highest, with easily a steady 60+ fps.

    I tested Team Fortress 2 first at the native resolution with all settings minimized and multicore rendering enabled. I joined my clan's 2fort server and got between 20-30 fps, according to cl_showfps 1. Playable, but a bit skippy for my tastes. I lowered the resolution to 740x480, which looks slightly fuzzy, but still not bad at all, and now it seems to hold a pretty steady 30-35, occasionally dipping into the high 20's when multiple players and exploding rockets and flames were on screen. Significantly better, although not ideal. It might be a little choppy for the more twitchy classes like Scout and Sniper, but I did just fine as Pyro and Heavy. It probably has more to do with the Atom CPU, as the Source engine is generally more CPU-bound than GPU-bound. Perhaps overclocking to 2.0GHz might help. I think today I might try the -dxlevel 80 parameter to force the game to run in DirectX 8 mode (default is 9) and see if that helps.

    Currently I'm downloading Unreal Tournament 2004, Half-Life 2, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, and I think I'll install Medal of Honor: Allied Assault from the disk as well. I'll update with some numbers for those.

    Initial impressions: not exactly a gaming powerhouse machine, but it beats the hell out of just about anything else in the 12" range (and no, the M11X doesn't count :p) Older games seem to run pretty much perfectly. Newer, more demanding stuff like TF2 are pretty decent, but could be better.

    Also interesting to note is that the Atom 330 actually has Hyper-Threading; it's got two physical cores, but shows up as 4 in Task Manager. I thought that was pretty interesting. Do any of the single core Atoms have this?
     
  43. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wouldn't class that as a gaming netbook.

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  44. gordesky1

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    anyone know when the m11x will be out?

    if its true if its under 1000$ i might get it :)


    sense its problee gona have a decent cpu

    and aready have a decent gpu.


    other than that im happy with my asus 1201n for now :)

    so far it does decent in every game i tried on it.
     
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    m11x they said Feb 2010

    If you check the Asus forums, many people have OC'd successfully and achieved better gaming results.
     
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    yeah....i have also asus..with AMD processor..and as concerned to gaming it's too batter..
     
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    for the 1201n? ya i was pretty much the first one that overclocked the 1201n :)

    have it at at 2ghzs and ion overclocked to 600core and 1180 for the ion processor.

    gona buy better memory next month too see if i could get any higher but i mainly want more performance from the ion sense the ram im running in it now is 533mhzs oc too 667 and the ion is performing a bit lower because of that sense it uses the ram as shard memory..


    wow the m11x is coming out in feb aready? if that's the case i better start saving up :)
     
  48. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Gordesky, I assume you overclocked the Atom with SetFSB? What PLL did you use? I'm interested in trying this.
     
  49. gordesky1

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    no i use OCTuner tuner pretty much the ony software that works on the 1201n

    i also post more instructions on here as i did in the asus 1201 forum.


    download octuner and just put the attachment file i uploaded in the octuner folder.

    oh renamed the txt too ini :) i had to make it a txt sense the forum wouldn't let me upload a ini


    for more info visit http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=424636&page=14 :) my post started with overclocking from post 134# on that page.
     

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    by feb there will be no need to ask yhis question
    it will hands down be aw m11x
     
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