The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

P170EM & P170SM owner here, I'm aware of the LVDS/eDP issues too.
Here's the service manual:
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/826868/Clevo-P170sm.html?page=64#manual

As per Intel, Ivybridge was the last generation supporting LVDS output.
So Clevo did a trick here, added "PS8625" to convert igp eDP signal to LVDS.
I've no clue why they did that but it does severely narrowed possible 17" panel selections. (the best i could figure out is the AUO 17" FHD 90% NTSC TN)

There's an actual 30pin eDP connector located just next to the 40pin LVDS connector,
while the other page of the manual suggest it's physically not connected.
FYI

I'm looking forward to try the RX480 in it, too!

 

Seems to be the same case with my MSI GT70. It's 4th gen. with optimus.
Physically it's LVDS, saw the connector with my eyes, but this is what intelHD reports:

I did not see any eDP connector on motherboard (unless it's on the opposite side, which I doubt)

Edit:
just googled PS8625. That might be it! I'm gonna take out the mobo again and try to find that chip.

 

What about outputting to mini DP then somehow convert to LVDS? Even M15x which is now over 7 years old has an eDP port (although no connector). It is doubtful even if I soldered one on that it is connected to anything. Like many other seemingly newer laptops.

 

Well, ok, allright. But look at this guy who stuck a (MSI branded) mxm 1070 into his 15" alienware computer. Really, the only remaining issues are cooling and firmware (that's my guess). Fingers crossed it's not a power delivery or bandwidth problem (even though we've gone over that, really, in theory it should work)

I have a msi branded computer.

If the card works in a 17" alienware computer, it better also work in mine.

I'm sure the gt72 will have no issues cooling (and delivering power to) more beefy components. Especially since the same cooling is used with the 1070 in the rebranded gt62vr.

(Sidenote: here's also no extra power connector for the msi gtx 1070n in the gr62vr)

Spoiler

(Another sidenote: I'm really determined to go for this upgrade in the future. Especially since I was cheaped out of using g-sync a year ago! I have physical proof that g-sync works on my computer, yet, my gpu isn't licenced for it. Msi wasn't willing to help.

Meanwhile people who bought asus g751jy computers could get a g-sync licence for under a $100, but that's a can of worms for another time)

I'll watch these threads closely. Please don't stop with what you're doing. This thread, amongst others is doing god's work for everyone with a mxm 3.0b computer.

 

Yeah this is impressive work. Alienware 17 R1 isn't a 15" tho seems to be the last decent Alienware.

Socketed cpu, gpu and eDP.

 

oops I wasn't paying attention. nevermind lol

 

Still, it's not gonna work stock, but to hell, MSI didnt got us a way to upgrade so..
We have to wait until someone find a way to make GT72 compatible with the 1070N (proper cards for years xD).

 

Actually that is expensive.

 

Yours on Ebay is 660, and I think out of bay you can give us a discount!

My question is...
Why MSI card has a lot of "things" and the AETINA card does not...
Who can explain this and which one is better considering this...

 

@woodzstack , Could you try something with this ?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-0b-alive-thread.795048/page-40#post-10384104

Thanks.

 

https://twitter.com/PremaMod/status/798959599940292608

 

interesting: http://www.ebay.de/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-G...867222?hash=item28233c9ed6:g:VyoAAOSwx2dYEtm9

thats 666 USD or 85% of the 780 USD offer, not bad! didnt realize that the CAD is SO cheap compared to the USD right now

woot woot, prema has done it again seems like the EM series is quite the machine to have, first 900M series, now pascal, dayum...

 

Yeah stock BIOS already hung at post, with the beta mod it's now plug'n'play including no need for driver mods...now the real work begins. Wish me luck!

 

always! luck for you means luck for us

 

I have the AUO 90% color gamut

 

master of the universe....!!!!!

 

620 euros for the 1060 are still too much.. plus it's not plug and play on the GT72 ^^..

 

@Prema

Can you also mod the bios of MSI GT60/70 so it can read pascal gpus too? Is it possible? Thanks

 

It is possible that pascal gpus can be PnP with your NB, provided you know how to put the hardwire ID in the vbios of the videocard. And all is well

 

Chinese people already did that weeks ago on october 28th.
P151EM : http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4840318726
but nice work though!
we are hoping that you can install 1070 on older laptops or somehow make the mxm RX480 work on laptops.

 

That is true, but you must have missed the part how it was achieved on all older Clevo's my friend!





With stock BIOS the system already hangs at post and can neither even reach the BIOS nor boot from HDD/USB anymore until the GPU is removed. He had to remove the GPU to flash my Mod:



Now I received a GPU to continue improving on my own work to make it all Plug'n'Play and work properly (not just boot and then throttle without proper power state support and manual driver modding).

Prema Mod™ < btw, that would be this boy here..

We would have to move a capacitor out of the way for it to fit. Otherwise only problem left after making the right Mods would be cooling...

 

Thanks alot for making the BIOS btw, really appreciated by everyone.
Looking forward to your future updates!

 

Great work there with the EM and 1060! As for other GPUs, any news about RX 480?

 

Geez! That wants me to buy a P150EM again! Except: the keyboard is/was sloppy-ish....

 

haha, ikr?! if this continues, the EM series will turn into the m15x successor @King of Interns, rousing your interest maybe? ^^

 

second that please.
Maybe just put branding bias aside for the sake of community and your prestige.
It's all made by slaves in foxconn anyway.

 

With a amd card maybe dont fancy a ngreedia card anymore.

Biding my time to see what happens with the upgrade scene before making a move.

Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk

 

Who needs a new Notebook if an almost 5 year old system can beat them all: https://goo.gl/4Jn76E

 

omg *lol* so much for BGA trash....

edit: well lets say all but one, theres still one score above yours, although "unofficial"

 

LOL, don't make me put that card into the DM3 and spoil the benching fun for all 1060 user forever.

 

ive been taking a second look at the Zotac Zbox EN1080 anniversary edition... i might be wrong, but, judging from the dimensions, i somehow get the feeling that even the 1080 in there might be a standard 3.0b form factor....

 

But that's not a fair comparison, your CPU gives you an unfair advantage over all the other 1060's

 

That would be absolutely stunning! Though this one must be a lil'bit gimped when stuffed into MXM 3.0b, right? But nontheless it would be a major improvement over all.

If it only could be made SLI somehow,.... sigh!

 

Problem is the price.

 

I didn't quite get the lvds-edp thing. Is there hope for a P157SMA with Intel 4th gen HD graphics to mount a standard 1060 mxm 3.0 if we donate to Prema?
Wich model did MSI put this 1060 3.0b in?

 

There is a hope. intelHD uses some kind of converter to convert eDP to LVDS. GPU is directly connected to intelHD so it doesnt care if your LCD is LVDS or not.
I'm waiting for woodzstack to send me the card and I'll test it in MSI GT70 with 4th gen i7.

MSI puts this card into GT/GS/GE 72VR and 62VR laptops.

 

CPU is actually doing surprisingly little to the overall and GPU result.
This is stock GPU and CPU with stock Turbo 3.7Ghz vs. stock GPU with CPU with Turbo disabled (2.7Ghz).
That's minus 1Ghz (27% lower clocks) on CPU and the GPU score even went up:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10807564/fs/10795610#

It's also DDR3 @1866Mhz vs. DDR4 @3000Mhz like in many of the current systems...

 

Yep if Optimus is wired to the LVDS port you should be ok (bios, thermals pending)

MSI put this card in all their current gen laptops that have a 1060 in them ...? Maybe a small form factor PCs as well (using MXMs in small form factor PCs is getting to be a widespread thing which on the whole is good for us!

 

The processor don't increase the total score much in Firestrike(In 3DM11 is another matter). But it's lovely to see a nearly 5-year-old Intel mobile *socket* i7-3740qm, Crush the Skylake 6700hq in Firestrike physics. And all the OEM's love to solder on this low entry 6700hq on the motheboard in their newest GamingBook's...
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10724962/fs/10155037/fs/10633485/fs/10808163#

 

Yes, I was being sarcastic, at the same time exactly making this point:

Pretty obvious why various companies have chosen the path they have. Nvidia and Intel want consistent big orders of chips from big manufacturers who make more markup selling complete systems over allowing someone to chuck a new GPU in a 4 year old laptop and get the same performance. And what do software developers do with more power at their disposal? Get lazy and pocket what they used to have to spend on optimisation to deliver acceptable user experience. </offtopic>

 

GUYS! Gecube's RX480 works in p750zm now, but there is a slight problem, the laptop automatically shutdown after 30secs.
(Laptop currently with gecube staff)
we are consolidating ideas why it turned off, and then we will tell gecube.

Video: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTgyNDY5OTE3Mg==.html
(if it doesnt play, install unblock youku extension)

Credits: ytrfds2(baidu tieba user)

 

Great, another re-seller trying to use my Mods to sell their cards:

Spoiler

Clevo systems need another thermal sensor signal from AMD cards than other vendors...that's a hardware/low level thing, so good luck with that as I only support the ones that come clean.
Innovate, don't imitate!

 

Sounds like the standard Clevo thing of the EC not getting a temperature reading from the card.

Most useless "feature" ever

Edit: beaten while trying to type on phone keyboard and spending so much time correcting bloody autocorrect

 

On a side note: what did you expect from chinese industry!?

"Gut geklaut ist halb gewonnen!"

*no offense intended*

 

It's difficult as it is another culture!
As per local tradition it is an honor for the original creator for her/his invention to be copied/used by others.
What you don't want to be used for free you have to keep locked up in your home.
It's just that others getting rich by my work doesn't feed my belly.

 

I understand you, but that was an user's laptop sent to gecube for testing, it wasnt flashed by gecube staff. They didnt deliberately use prema mod for testing, it just happened that the laptop sent came with premamod(you are famous everywhere)

on a side note, i can tell them not to use premamodded laptops for testing, but whether if they listen is another thing.

 

I have no desire to be famous, simply a little respect is enough.
No problem if they just use it for their in-house testing, just speaking from experience how that pans out afterwards...
The only rules when using my Mods are that they are not to be altered and/or used commercially without my consensus. Apart from that I am doing this for everyone to be happy!

 

Right now they are just testing out, i will make sure to tell them no altering of Premamod or for commercial uses.

Problem is most of the chinese users there arent very english-literate so i guess they have no way of reaching you. They call you 普力马大神(prema-god/master-prema) on the internet though.

I believe they respect you a lot, not many people can create what you have created.

This "copying and using without permission" norm in china is changing slowly, but you wont see the significant change for at least 10yrs.

 

They are more than welcome to contact me. After all we are all just learning from each-other to evolve into something better.

OK enough of me high jacking this thread...the phoenix has a 'green falcon' to hunt...

 

green falcon, eh? ^^

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10