The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

The checksum showing red is okay, as long as it's official vBIOS. I will remove the red color for the next version since it's confusing.

With a special vBIOS, I am able to draw 250W through the master card slot in the P870DM1, with no power connector.
But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I have 22 heat pipes just for the GPU and 4 fans blowing it, it still got hot.
I recommend staying below 200W for safety, maybe the optimal value is 170~180W. After 200W, the performance gain is limited.

 

If it's possible, maybe you can send me a vBIOS that you modded and I can take a look?

 

Gladly. If there's anything you think you could do I'd really appreciate it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4dlk0fipiEhSkcxU1FPUGVRTW8/view?usp=sharing

 

FYI here's my experience fitting a MSI 1070 into P370EM so far.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-1070-mxm-into-p370em-an-adventure.806069/

It's real "fun" doing stuff to a computer with no display

 

that's an old vbios, there's one made in november 2016.

I thought you resolved it already. Also, use @j95's modded INFs - they worked for me when installing drivers for the MSI 1070.

 

You are right. The vBIOS that @EepoSaurus linked (86.04.31.00.0C) does have header contained verification stuffs; by removing the header the vBIOS works again. I think this happens for vBIOS that doesn't start at 55 AA. I am going to do an update so that it will "fix" the header.

 

It did indeed work! Unfortunately im running into some power restrictions when running games. My 4930mx can not hold an overclock when gaming and throttles quite a bit. Great work by coolane though. Hes awesome.

 

That's alienware for ya!

EDIT: I won't be flashing it till end of June - early July because I am waiting on the programmer I bought.

 

say WAT?! 22 heatpipes for the gpu?! picture please or it didnt happen!

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The Ultimate Mod for the P870DM by Coolane
A masterpiece of work

 

LULZ Someone went WAY overboard! Kudos to him!

 

Thanks!
This is the current look, default heat sink has 6 heat pipes, adding the 16 I put on, now it has 22 just for the GPU, .
It doesn't look as nice/organized as the one before, but it helps me improving temp further.



Tried loading 262W through the MXM port, no gut to go higher...

 

Will have to see how a stock 200w heatsink will do. Otherwise I may need to buy more heatsink pipes and figure out placement.

I also think I have a limited amount of TDP to play with anyway since I am only powering my P870DM-G with a single 330W PSU. I might just limit the TDP to 150W (with a bump to the throttling threshold to 70) and call it a day.

 

I got my 4930mx stable at 4.4ghz and my TDP o. My 1070 set to 150 base and 180 max. It runs great and i will post some firestrike scores when i get back home. Thanks again Coolane! Awesome work.

 

I'm still waiting for the gear to arrive.

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You are welcome! Glad to see it's working for you!
Be careful of the TDP though, we haven't known how robust the standard zotac card is under heavy load. Maybe test it around 150W then slowly raise it up.

 

Will do!

 

What problems would I see if I attempted to flash the desktop 1070 vbios onto the notebook 1070?

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It didnt work on my laptop. The flash itself worked fine and the card was not damaged

 

oh ok.

i wonder what's causing the throttling temp to not work in @Coolane's tool? there's gotta be something else that's still pushing it to the default level.

 

The temp throttling mechanism is more complicated than just being controlled by a simple temp value in the vBIOS, it also has relationship with power and voltage level, maybe also something else.
I am going to look into more to see if I can find a way to reduce the dynamic clocks throttling.
For now, try to keep the core temp as low as possible to reduce the dynamic clocks from dropping too much.
In addition, setting the curve like this can help keeping the card at lower temp, also minimize the drop:

 

OK Cool. I'll just run AB on startup then to enable the voltage/frequency curve editor.

First attempt!

 

On that screen where you started at 0.912mV..... You now need to hit CTRL-L to lock it at that voltage. And then click apply to save it on the AB window.

 

it's showing a yellow dotted vertical line. what to do?

how to get the horizontal dotted line?

EDIT: Got it! hmmm....kills Forza Horizon 3 for some reason

 

Then open the same window and hit CTRL-D and then set a different voltage and try again.

 

will have a look see and deduct what's causing it to eff up! mind you it's not a total system crash, just the game.

 

Where can the cheapest 1060 MXM card be found. All I can find is $580 which seems a bit extortionate! Are there still no sensible prices?

 

The 1060 is equivalent to the 980m in power. I found the upgrade to be disappointing. The 1070 is an excellent gpu even for the high cost. Are you putting this in your m15x? I heard the pascal gpus wont work in the m15x

 

Pascal won't work as standard due to not supporting LVDS. However I plan a DP to LVDS conversion mod that will be doable for around 150 dollars. 1060 is only slightly better than 980M yes but the 980M runs way too hot for M15x. 80WTDP far more suitable. 1070 again runs too hot for M15x and probably will demand more power than motherboard can supply around 130W maximum to MXM slot.

So no reasonable (sub $500) cards? Guess I have to wait another 6 months or so.

 

running a modded vbios now....here's hoping the throttling issue can be solved by @Prema, @Coolane and co.

 

Should have known you had a plan! It sounds pretty cool o wish you luck. The 1070 only pulls 115w. Its surprisingly cool running too but i do have a heavier duty gpu heatsink in my 17r1. The cheapest 1060 i was able to get was a deal from Woodzstack. $561 i believe. You should check with him.

 

Now that we can flash a bios on the cards it should be just a matter of time to get a full tool that will adjust everything or a bios that comes unlocked. Im willing to put some money up for the trouble. Im sure others would as well.

 

through a programmer = yes
through nvflash = no

big difference.

 

Big difference in complexity but not in end result. The process is easy enough its just inconvenient.

 

We just need @Prema to work their magic.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVidia-GTX-1070-8GB-N17E-G2-A1-Video-Graphics-Card-GPU106/182588894256
check this out provided you can fit it into your chassis

 

Probably too wide for the m15x.

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Absolutely The 1070 is definitely too wide the M15x has zero tolerance except for a little in terms of length. 115W sounds borderline ok but still the heatsink just wasn't designed to dissipate anymore than 80W with a max of 100W.

$561 is still a bit much as I would need to buy all the bits to convert DP to LVDS so 150 on top plus the plan would require I get a 7260 AIO BT and wireless AC which means another 25 again. Getting a bit pricy. Nah M15x will still be fine in 1 year if need be...might even throw a 940xm in for a laugh then too. Hard to believe the machine is now 8 years old and will work with Pascal...

 

Hard to believe that it is 2017 and this isn't yet the standard of high performance computing laptops.

 

One day youre gonna come over to the 17r1. It's the perfect laptop man. I even bought a tornado f5 to replace it and im selling the f5 now. Its a beast.

 

Now that's a waste.

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Youve got it all figured out buddy.

 

Please educate me on this topic please ?_? (because I'm going to buy a F5 soon..)

 

Buying an F5 to replace the alienware only to sell it to keep the alienware. That's a waste of money and a decent laptop.

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Have a look at my 1070 sli install into p370em. Two woosy 6mm heat pipes on the core heatsink are enough to keep them at 120W each to the exact same temps as the original 75W 670Ms that the heatsinks were designed with.

I haven't tested extensively to see whether that applies to every workload but it holds for what I've done so far, benches, long mining sessions, couple of games.

 

No offense to the f5 mind you but the components run hot comparatively. But there are clear differences. the chassis for the f5 is plastic and the 17r1 is aluminum/magnesium so the laptop itself acts as a heat sink in the case of the r1. The f5 is tops as far as form factor and future upgradability but the laptop itself doesnt feel as premium. The cpu can throttle pretty readily and the gpu runs hot as well but the laptop is pretty new and im sure the kinks will get worked out. I bought a modded bottom cover for better airflow and i am going to delid my cpu. Its just prefrence. I get alot of enjoyment out of making the r1 take newer cards and tinkering with it.

 

Is it? Does it even matter what you think seeing as how it isnt your money? Let alone that you have no idea what i spent on it. Making alot of assumptions there man.

 

Yeah I know of the chassis because my m18x-r2 has the same materials, but i'll keep it for desk and my personal museum and take F5 for gaming, mobility and upgradability, is it wrong?


MS16L13 (Tornado F5 Eurocom - no logo)
customized configuration - barebones +CPU +GPU
Intel 6700k
1080 GTX
120Hz panel
330W PSU upgrade
INTEL 7265
Delidding + Liquid Thermal paste on CPU

 

I think the most frustrating part for me is that the components run very hot and everybody tells you its well within spec and it may be. But i can run my 4930mx at 4.3ghz and get a cinebench multithread score of 850 and the cpu tops out at 83c when my 6700k will be clocked at 4.5ghz and cant get through the test with out dropping clocks. Its a hard thing to complain about though because the f5 really is a marvel of a laptop.

 

Now you're injecting in me a buyer remorse (before I buy)