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    The hopeful of keeping MXM 3.0b alive thread!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by King of Interns, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. dzpliu

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    it is working now at 3.0X8.
    it was bugged at first due to misalignment, the 980ti was slanted(only the front parts of pcie pins were touching the board), causing 3.0X2 performance.

    here are some of the gpu benchmarks in the chinese software(鲁大师)they like to use to use as reference.
    GTX1060 6g: 166000~
    GTX1070 8g: 220000~
    GTX1080 8g: 280000~
    RX580 8g: 190000~
    GTX 970 4g: 140000~
     
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    someone give him a RTX card and 3dmark to test
     
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    Nice, wonder if two can be used in SLI on a M18xR2 with external display LOL
     
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    Hi dzpliu,

    Were you able to purchase one of the 20 eGPUs made by 无畏级反潜舰 (aka (username on baidu), Fearless-class anti-submarine patrol vessel)?

    It appears from what he was posting, the eGPU kit only works on a very limited number of laptops and the Clevo P570 and P870 are among those few compatible laptops.

    If that MXM 3.0 connector with the shielded flexible cable is truly supporting PCIe 3.0 x8 speed, then I would like to buy one of his eGPU kits to test on one of my Clevos (P570WM3 and P870TM1).

    Thanks.
     
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    finally got my MXM 1060 into my Zbook 17, the mxm has the same size board but the chip layout above the memory is slightly different than the m1000 or m3000 layout so the heatsink needs a small dremeling to clear the chips. other than that it works great in my ZBook 17 G3. So 1060 is a Go for the Zbook 17 G3.

    Zbook on ebay was $499 and the MXM was $300. Cost about $150 bit more than other 1060 laptops but the build quality is superior compared to other gaming laptops such as Nitro 7, Dell G3 and such. Worth the extra cost of GTX 1060 gaming laptop under $800.
     
  6. dzpliu

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    i was not able to get one. He was selling in batches, there were only 20 people who pre-ordered. He was selling PCIe 3.0 X16 version as well, but only 4 or 5 people interested.

    update: MXM to PCIe 3.0 is going to be open source soon. maybe you guys can make your own next time.

    update: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...yWpGm&id=599010631937&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail
     
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    That adapter looks fun. They got it to run on a P170sm, so apparently it reports a fake temp to the EC too to avoid shutdown. That or they just quick took a screenshot before the system powered off. I'm also not seeing pictures of the eGPU actually rendering anything. The one screenshot could easily be the iGPU.

    What'd really be cool is if they routed GPU DP outputs back into the mxm slot to run eDP and DP. Right now the adapter seems reliant on routing through integrated graphics, but I assume the card's output ports would work.

    I'm impressed they got PCI-e 3.0 speeds to run over a cable that long. Getting 2.0 to work was difficult in my eGPU days.

    Do they also have an mxm 2 adapter? I'm guessing not.
     
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  10. dzpliu

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    ya, they used some self made board to mod the EC, clevo systems will not shutdown now.
    Heres the video of how they did it, but it is in chinese, but you can just look at what they are doing. https://www.bilibili.com/video/av55501875
     
  11. TheQuentincc

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    Hi, there is an adapter to run MXM gpu on PCIE x16 ? like the one from eurocom but without video output and for cheap if possible ?
    I saw one but it's MXM on pcie x1
     
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    A10 5750M w/iGPU (HD 8650D) is the best it can take, which is honestly isnt worth it as its only slightly faster than a 3rd gen i7's iGPU and the CPU is worse than that gens Pentiums. It doesnt have a MXM slot if thats what youre wondering.
     
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    He is talking about upgrading to an HP 8770W
     
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    Oh my bad, in that case a MXM 1070 is the best he can go up to.
     
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    Does anyone know if HDMI audio works on the M17x R4/Ranger with the 1070 in PEG??
     
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    1060 works in my M18xR2 with HDMI audio so 1070 should work fine in M17xR4 as well.

    I am using SG though. PEG should work with 120hz display.
     
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    Hi, I would like to know if the zotac GTX1080 mxm can run other brand vbios ? Mine come with MSI GTX1080 mobile vbios on it
     
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    Most people use msi since the zotac doesn't output to internal screen natively. Or at least this is the case on the 1070 variant.
     
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    Okay so if I flash the original vbios on it I could only use it with external screen ?
     
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    That's what I would expect. Unless I'm mistaken there aren't any zotac laptops so they wouldn't bother to enable functions that a desktop would never use. Which is where these cards are typically sourced from.
     
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    IIRC, there was an upgrade thread on these forums where somebody used a Zotac 1070 flashed with MSI vBIOS to get the screen to show.
     
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    RTX 5000 mxm is here, notice the screwholes. Prepare your kidneys



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    Will not fit in the M6700 and M6800 sadly :(
     
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    shoot...i was getting excited there for a moment. vram chips outside of standard mxm 3.0b dimensions, screw holes out of alignments and SMDs dont follow standard quadro layout. damn.

    well alright, one screw hole should suffice to keep the card down, a bit of chassis modification could get those vram chips in place and the heatsink would need to be modified for the SMDs....

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    Any idea which manufacturer this is from? And where the pic is from?
     
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    when in doubt: taobao ;)

    also looks like a Dell card, kinda

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
  30. TheQuentincc

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    it look like dell but they stopped producing "standard" mxm gpu since 8th gen intel, I don't think it's HP because it has a bios soldered on it (and on pascal there was no bios on it)
    I asked PNY a week or two and they said that RTX MXM card will be available on Q4 2019 for their partners
     
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    well, its not standard mxm ;)

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    Nope it's the HP card
     
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    That couldn't be the Dell card, 'cause Dell have moved from using MXM to DGFF format. So, i think, this is the sunset of MXM era ?
     
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    pretty sure that third parties like aetina, gecube and craftily clever chinese dudes with too much time and soldering irons on their hands will still offer standard mxm turings gpus. just have to wait longer for them to come out.

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    I'm not sure I trust the quality of the offbeat Chinese stuff, just sayin'.
     
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    in general id agree. but funny enough, the custom made black pcb 1070s in standard mxm flavour on ebay are among the most recommended 1070 models ;) whereas the big company cards from aetina and gecube are known to blow up on a regular basis

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    I don't think so, it's a TU102 gpu which will consume more power than GTX1080 and RTX2080 mxm, so in order to make this happen the format of the card would be even bigger than these two.
    Also it's more like a portable AIO than a real laptop
     
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    I'm still of the thought that "RTX 6000" is a typo of some sorts, but then again if they can stuff 200W RTX 2080s in laptops I guess it could be possible.
     
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    The desktop Quadro RTX 6000 alone is over $6000. I shudder to think of what an RTX 6000 laptop would cost.
     
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    I'm actually interested in buying this from aliexpress just to test it in my GT83, the thought of this working and it's reasonably priced too :D
     
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    Me :D when I have the funds!

    It will be the rtx 5000 qual sample though, not buying an rtx 4000 card for that much money when it’s quite a bit slower... For only £50 more I’d get like 20% more performance on an overclock as the rtx 5000 is genuinely tdp limited, the chip can push more power easily.
     
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    300W power adapter for a laptop that is supposed to have a full on TU102 based Quadro RTX 6000?

    LOL....
     
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    full TU102 only means it has the same amount of shaders. clocks and TDP limit would definitely be lower. so more like a RTX6000 Max-Q ;)

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    Yeah, considering most of the laptop is built into the display (the keyboard contains the battery), and the entire thing looks thin as hell, I’d be surprised if the RTX 6000 has a TDP over 150W.
     
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    Idk if "within 10%" is considered Max-Q. The slides nVidia showed had the TU102 laptop beat by 13% and 9% in two tests, but in the other two, one it beat the desktop and one was 3% slower I think.

    This is going to be an interesting thing , but I have a feeling it will be BGA. What's interesting is...nVidia didn't allow Clevo to stuff a 1080Ti in the P870 series but this is a Quadro RTX 6000 in a thin and light 15" form factor lol
     
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