UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

The X1600 is quite a bit better.

 

even though the X1600 is outdated, it should be more powerful compared to the 8400.

the 8400 should have newer feature, such as newer version of purevideo or what not.

if you choose 8400 over the x1600 because you want to watch movie, then probably thats fine. but if you choose 8400 over x1600 because you want to be future ready for directx10 then you might want to reconsider. because the 8400 dont have the capability to crank new directx10 to it fullest so, its kind of useless in that regard.

 

there are three different versions of the 8400m; the 8400m G, 8400m GS, and the 8400m GT. there are of course many factors to take into account when judging the individual strengths and weakness of graphics cards, but basically the following is about right - the G version is a alot weaker than the x1600, the GS is slightly weaker, and the GT is slightly better.

the HP Pavilion DV 9540 has a 8400m GS, so i think you would be ok with that for low/medium gaming.

 

Yes i understand, well i donth play so much but its nice to be able too. The DV9540 is a nicer laptop so i did hope for a push in that direction but i guessed you would rekomend the X1600. If i ask you like this; will i be able to play new games att all on the 8400M on lower settings or is 99% of new games out of the limimit ? Its weird couse many people compare those cards as equal or nearly equal with the dx10 support on 8400M.

Thanks again.

 

I did check and the DV9540 have the card Geforce 8400M, only and "M" and nothing after.

Thanks

 

You should be able to play 90% of newer games at low to med settings with ease on a 8400m GS card. Go ahead with the dv9540. Though maybe you would want to fill up the FAQ and post here so that people might suggest a better option for you.

 

Which one does the SZ680 have?

 

It has a hybrid card - 8400M GS / X3100 and you can switch between them.

 

Thanks

Regards
Robby

 

I've got a question. I see that the dell vostros come with an GMA X3100 integrated video card while the inspirons come with a GMA 3100 (no X infront). Are they the same?

 

Yes they are the same... it's just misspelled. (no matter where you see that)

 

Hi, I currently have an nvidia geforce 8400m GS graphics card and wanted to know if I can upgrade to an 8600m GT. Can I actually do it and is it worth the trouble, if not is there an alternative ... I would like to see bioshock run a little quicker.

Thanks,
Mario

btw laptop is an hp dv6000

 

W

What laptop do you have? Most likely it's not possible and/or not worth it.

 

Absolutely Impossible.

 

I assume you mean a dv6500t, and yes, it's impossible. If you really need more graphics power, the best thing to do is return or sell the laptop and get something like the HP 8510p or the Dell 1520.

 

Chaz,
Your original posting "The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page" from July 2005 is an excellent source!
Would it be possible for you to update the cards list or send a reliable link for similar info?
Thanks.

 

This list is continuously updated, and was last updated on the 13th of August. If a card's not on the list, it's because there's not yet enough information to place it.

 

Oh , alright thanks for the quick reply , just one other question. Is it at least possible to upgrade to the 8400 GT. I mean I have the 8400Gs in the Dv6500t and those are practically the same cards right ? , so is it possible for me to pull off.
Thanks again,
Mario

 

No, it's impossible. And those two cards are very different. As a rule, laptop video cards cannot be upgraded.

 

No, it's not, sorry.

Edit:
^^^ yeah...lol...

 

gotcha, Well at least i can still play bioshock at pretty nice settings. Thanks

 

I'm interested in the 8510w/p with the following specs..

8510w Notebook PC - RM296UT - Option 2
Linked to HP - click
[Est. $2239 after RAM, tax, warranty, etc] [Would upgrade RAM to 3GB]

8510p Notebook PC (RM303UT) - Option 3
Here
[Est. $1,729 after RAM, tax, warranty, etc] [Would upgrade RAM to 3GB]

So.. it's a matter of:
A) Am I going for 'overkill' in the 8510w model?.
B) What about ATI vs. nVidia?
C) Which model will last longer in the end?
D) Is the 8510w really worth the $510 price difference?

So far I'm leaning towards the 8510p. I'm not sure of the difference between the two beside the memory card.

I'm just worried that while I have the money now, whether the 8510w is the better option. If it is significantly better, I'll get it. But when I say significant, I meant enough to value the $510-difference decision..

Opinion? Advice? Anything?. I'm about to drive myself crazy over here.

Note: For multiple reasons, I can only purchase directly from HP -- no matter the savings.

EDIT: Adding to that:
I'm not a big, huge gamer but I'd like to play around with a few games on highspec.. I'm just not sure if that means the difference between w/p or not.

I'm a city girl that's mostly concerned with business matters, but that doesn't mean I might not enjoy the occassional MMORPG or two -- no big Call of Duty or whatever the new shooters are though.

Just WoW here and there, a few of the cute Korean MMORPGS.. Hey, I'm being honest.

Am I going for overkill with the 8510w?. I'd like to save if I can, but I want the best that I can get right now -- that's suited for the purposes I said above.

 

The 8510p should be sufficient for your needs.

 

Well, the video cards are comparable and there will not be significant difference in gaming performance...

The "w" model is more expensive because it has a workstation video card (3D modeling and such), which you don't need, and also 3 years on-site warranty... and that's about.

Go for the HP 8510p.

 

Hi, i bought a hp laptop dv6502au which has a graphics card nvidia geforce go 7150m/630a .. how would you rate this graphics card? is it an integrated? or low end? .. it has 64mb dedicated memory.. i cant find this card's name on any of your list of card benchmarking. if possible, please show me a nearest performing benchmarked card to my card...(want too see performance statistics)

 

The 7150 is nVidia's newest integrated graphics solution. With 64mb of dedicated memory, it should perform very well among integrated cards. The closest competitor would probably be the ATI x1270 or the Intel x3100.

 

Hi, All

I am looking to buy the HP8710p with NVS320m (8600/8700GT I read some where). Is it true than we could install normal driver to make it into Geforce Card? (laptopvideo2go?).

I am asking this just to ensure the card could at least be equal to a normal gaming card on basic visual application such as CAD or 3D.

I am worry of the performance of this graphics card after reading some thread claiming how bad NVS card is to 2D/3D application in both Dx or OpenGL.. is this true?

 

Before I get around to answering people's questions, I'd like to add the integrated ATI X1270 and the integratedGeForce Go7150 into the guide. Does anyone have any benchmarks to compare these two? Here is the current list:

I think it's really a toss-up between the X3100/X1200/Go7150, each one has advantages and disadvantages. It depends on the game.

Yes.

 

Is the go6400 really stronger than a MBR x1300/1350/2300? and a 8600M GS stronger than a go7600 GT?

 

I am looking to purchase a new laptop but am unsure as to which Graphics device is better out of the two.

The Samsung +R60 uses the ATI Radeon Express 1250M 128MB:

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/654/86...Laptop-Notebook/Product.html?searchtype=genre

The HP Pavilion 6552 uses the NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7150M:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF25a/21675-38187-38191-38191-38191-79744946.html

I believe they are both integrated devices which will use system memory (please correct me if I'm wrong) but am unsure of which is the better device.

Thanks

(Sorry, I've just seen the big-ass Mobile Graphics Card thread on Page Two)

 

I believe the 1250m uses system RAM, but the 7150m uses dedicated memory. The 7150 is probably the better bet.

Check out the 7200m which is only a hair better than the 7150 and the 1250m at notebookcheck.com

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

Thanks for pointing that out, I changed some of the rankings slightly.

 

Chaz, is there a reason the x2300 is placed so low in the rankings? I know it's only DX9, but it's placed significantly below it's last-generation equivalents, the Go7400 and the X1400.

 

AFAIK X2300 is a slightly modified X1300 s it should be slower than X1400 or GF7400

 

yeah, thats why its the "x"2300 and not the hd 2300.

 

No, both an HD2300 and an x2300 exist, and they are based on the same card. The only difference is some HD video support and a few more transistors on the HD version, I believe.

 

I know that the x1400 is usually shipped with Hypermemory (as in my notebook), and that's why the memory bus to internal memory is reduced to 64 bit . (So that the effective bus width is 128 bit - 64 bit to internal, 64 bit to system memory). That's why the performance is reduced (in 3d Mark03 from 5000 to 3200, in 3D Mark 05 from 3000 to 1600), the only thing I don't know why is that, that in 3D Mark 06 the performance increases from 900 to 1200?
Does anybody know it??

 

All I know is that you can upgrade to a Geforce go7900GS or a Mobility Radeon X1800/1900.

 

3dmark06 was the first 3dmark to utilize a minimum of 256mb of VRAM, so if you don't have 256mb dedicated, then the hypermemory will really help it out. That would be my guess, at least.

 

Thanks odin243!

I wrote once a program that required 300 MB of graphics memory, so sometimes hypermemory can be helpful, especially when writing programs for bigger cards, but usually in games it's not very fast or useful so I think that 3DMark gives more scores than it should.

 

Hello

Though this is not the exact place to say this (I'd rather not say this on the main thread page as to further damage my reputation), apologies to all those reading this who were involved in my recent thread labelled "URGENT URGENT!! I think I've Been Hacked!!". My rhetorical question was uncalled for, and very demanding and unpolite. I'm sure that it was a simple matter that I could have solved by myself. With this, I hope I we can get off to a better start.

Now...back to business. I'm sure this is nothing, but my video card is labelled as a GMA 945GM, when in fact its supposed to be a 950. I had a look around and saw they attributed to each other with a " /". I guess they are the same?

Also, having tried System Requirements Lab, my laptop passes the Minimum requirements for playing World of Warcraft...just above the Minimum. On Recommended requirements however, it fails to pass the 64MB video card, as mine is only 36MB. With this [Minimum Pass] in mind, and the fact that my computer is a laptop, as well as using dial-up Internet, WoW will have great difficulty playing won't it, if not at all?

RuneScape, I tested out on the laptop, being a former player on the old desktop. The login page took quite a long time to load, and to add to that it took long to load my account after typing in the details. After that it is fine, in high detail, but occasionally the box will come up in the top-left corner saying "Loading ??%" till 100% and then it starts playing again...

A lot of content here, and I will greatly appreciate help/advice for this. My birthday is very soon and WoW is something I'm allowed, yet I'm not sure whether it will play well.

Thank you

 

945GM is the name of the chipset you have, it's integrated graphics are known as the GMA950. They're essentially interchangeable (as you can't have one without the other) so I wouldn't worry about how it's labeled.

The GMA950 can run WoW, albeit at lowest settings. Your Dial-Up connection would be a major problem though...

 

Thanks for the advice

 

Hello,

please i need to know what is the differences between both Video cards ATi X1400 and GeForce 7300 ,.. for DELL inspiron 6400

i know that Ati x1400 is hypermemory and it's infact 128 mb dedicated + 128 mb shared from the RAM

now i want to know what is about GeForce 7300 ??

Thanks & Regards
Mohamed Osama
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Geforce 7300 is 128mb dedicated +128mb shared (64mb dedicated +64mb shared depending on the vendor). It uses technology called turbocache which is much more efficent than ATI`s hyper memory.

However in terms of perfromance the Ati X1400 is faster.

Some quick specs of each can be found here:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-Go-7400.2143.0.html

and here

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-X1400.2165.0.html

 

The x1400 is a significantly better card than the Go7300, which is just an underclocked Go7400. ATI's hypermemory is largely a gimmick, unlike nVidia's Turbocache which is fairly efficient.

 

so then does an ati x1400 even use the shared memory?

 

It uses it if it needs it, yes, it's just not very efficient (compared to dedicated video memory).

 

I am new to the dedicated graphics card in notebooks and I'm trying to make the best informed desideon on a new notebook. I've seen post where the 8700 gt is an overclocked over volted 8600 gt, which I don't care about, what I do want to know is can a 8700 be overclocked safely and how many different version of this card are there?

If I could , I would go for the 7950 gtx but all notebooks with that are out of my pricerange. Heck, if I could, I'd get 7950 in sli while I'm dreaming about it.

Thanks in advance,

 

There are a tons of threads about it.

8700GT is not just an overclocked 8600GT

Because an extremely overclocked edtion of 8600GT GDDR3 is still lacking behind in terms of performance compared to 8700GT

AS for the 8600GT DDR2 that card is about 40% weaker than 8700GT

In terms of performance:
8700GT is roughly speaking a 7900GS with Dx10 capabilities
while 8600GT is 7800 go with Dx10 capabilities.

There is only GDDR3 editions of 8700GT
while there are most DDR2 8600GT cards outthere.

About overclocking try to search the forum these questions has been already answered