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The 9500 GS appears to be a renamed 8600 GT on a slightly smaller die (it should be slightly more power efficient). What you should be concerned about is the type of memory that the cards use. If one uses DDR2, it will be SIGNIFICANTLY slower than a DDR3 version of the card. If both use DDR3, they should have comparable performance.

I have yet to personally see a 9500 GS with DDR3 memory, just a heads up.

 

If the 9500M GS is indeed GDDR3, it will be much better than the 8600M GT, as it has a smaller thermal envelope, thus reducing heat (and fan activity) and increasing battery life. Do we have proof either way for the 9500M GS: GDDR2 or GDDR3? Just because it is 512MB doesn't mean it is GDDR2, the new Macbook Pro has a 512MB GDDR3 8600M GT.

 

Thanks for the quick replies.

From what I have been able to find out the 8600GT is DDR3 (Asus G1S) but the 9500M GS is DDR2 (Asus M51SN)

Now I just have to decide if the extra money is worth it.

 

Not worth $500 more. M51 is a solid choice regardless.

 

there is no ddr3 9500gs

all are the ddr2 512 mb variant

it is not much slower than the ddr3 8600gt

 

It depends they are roughly the same. check for ddr2/ddr3 on the graphics card because that will make it much faster.

 

I've seen it in xopticpc. The G1s have 8600GT 512mb DDR3, while the C90s have 8600GT 256mb DDR3... meanwhile the Asus M50s have 9500GS.

My question is which one is better??? does the 8600GT of G1s and C90s the same?? while the 8600GT ddr3 better than 9500GS?? my friends really interested in the C90S...

 

The 512mb DDR3 in the G1S listed on Xoptic is actually 256mb dedicated + 256mb shared...they just wrote 512mb to make it look better lol!

 

According to the Apple site, the Macbook Pro has 512MB GDDR3 8600M GT.

 

Yes it does, but the 128-bit bus in the 8600GT can utilise it anyway...so you might as well have 256mb.

 

okay, so the 8600GT 512mb DDR3 of G1S and C90S (256mb) are the same right?? what about the 9500GS is it even better than the 8600GT DDR3??

 

On paper the 9500GS looks exactly the same, the 9500GS is a die-shrink version of the 8600GT, the one is the M50 is DDR2, but the one is the G1Sn...no body is 100%. Personally I think its GDDR3, but thats my view.

 

Hello all,

I was wondering if the mobility radeon 2600 512MB has ddr2 or ddr 3, specifically the card in this computer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220297

I tried to find out, but am le dumb sometimes, and didn't get an answer. Thanks in advance!

 

AFAIK the 512MB cards are GDDR2 and the 256MB cards are GDDR3. I coud be wrong but mine is DDR2 and it's the same card Asus uses in that computer so I would venture to say it's DDR2 as well.

 

i would say its DDR2

 

It's the DDR2 version of the card. Only a few have the GDDR3, my laptop being one of them.

 

Acer has a 14.1 with the HD2400XT with 256gddr3,and if you are lucky enough to get a good copy of it , it is very fast.

The 4920G series has a couple of Penryn models called 4920G 832 G32mn and 4920G 932 G32mn , both models have the HD2400XT GPU and 2gb of ram , 320gb HDD, WIFI draft N, priced around 1300US.

 

Turbocache amount depends on how much system memory the notebook has. No matter what the manufacturers say. I went from 1GB of RAM and 256MB of turbocache to 3GB of RAM and 1276MB of turbocache. In my oppinion go for the 8600M GS Ive got the GT version and it kicks ass over my wifes HD2400XT card.

 

what about the:
NVIDIA Quadro FX 360M, 512MB Turbo Cache memory (256 dedicated)

found it in dell M4300...

is it powerful than the 8600GT ddr2 and 9500GS??

 

No it is based on the 8400GS.

 

No, it's the 8400M GS....

Edit: You know, I may decide to kill you some day...

 

Nooooooo don't terminate me! I bet you clone number 2 wont be as good

 

I understand the 8800 to be significantly better than the other 2, but by how much of a margin, and could someone please compare the 570M to the 8600 GT i have heard they are similar. it would seem i have the first 2 as my best options in a 15" and the 8800 my best option in a 17"

NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M (256MB Open GL)

256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT

NVIDIA GeForce Go 8800 GTS graphicso 512MB discrete GDDR3

 

For gaming or CAD/DCC?

If you're planning on heavy or moderate gaming, I would recommend the 8800M GTS since it's loads faster than the 8600M. The Quadro isn't a gaming card, it's made for visualization applications such as CAD.

-Mike.

 

In games, the FX 570M performs comparably to the 8600GT DDR3. However, the 8800 GTS outperforms them both.

 

thanks pocketaces, how does your t61p perform in gaming? what games have you tried?

 

Mine performs equally well to my friend's G1S-A1 in games that use DirectX, and slightly better in games that implement OpenGL. Keep in mind the identical configurations of the G1S-A1 and my T61p as well.

 

In terms of gaming, the 8600m GT and fx570m are basically the same chip with a switch that tells the fx570m to enable its more professional features and drivers which optimize better for professional rendering than gaming.
(this doesn't mean it won't work for gaming, just that it optimizes differently)

If you are willing to load the Geforce drivers (was a thread on it somewhere here I thought) the 8600m GT and fx570m will perform pretty much identically.

Th 8800GTS should perform anywhere from 1.5x to 2x faster and won't start "huffing and puffing" above 1280x1024 where the 128-bit memory of lesser cards starts flooding the memory bus. (above that point and especially with AA and other memory-intensive features on, the 8800GTS will be more than 2x better)

Note that 1440x900 is just a few pixels less than 1280x1024.

I thought alienware was making a 15" with the 8800GTS...

 

The 8800 GTS is about two times faster than the others.

 

they are pretty equal...tho quadro costs more..

 

8800 GTS
256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT & NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M r even imo

 

Hello i have som questions regarding the GeForce 9500M GS...

Is it good, can it play fx Crysis? I've heard that it's the same as a GeForce 8600M GT, is that true?

Here's the source:
http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-geforce-9500m-gs-and-9300m-g-specs-unveiled-1210212.php

Hope you can help me.
Fredd1

 

Yes, it's a good mid-range card.
Yes, not maximum settings @ 60FPS, but then what notebook can?
Basically the same, Yes

 

I'll just post what I did a while back:

Hers a video I made a week ago running Crysis on my ASUS notebook with the Geforce 9500M GS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bxeFdaKUoE

1280x720 at the following settings:

No Anti-aliasing
Texture Quality: Very High
Objects Quality: High
Shadows Quality Medium
Physics Quality: Very High
Shaders Quality: Medium
Volumetric Effects Quality: High
Game Effects Quality: Very High
Particles Quality: Very High
Water Quality: Very High
Sound Quality: Very High

System:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 (Penry)@2.5Ghz
RAM: 4GB
GPU: Geforce 9500M GS 512MB
HDD: 250GB
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64

Frames Per Second(FPS): 15-22FPS with lowest drop at 10FPS. The game runs better at 1024x768.
Unfortunately the FRAPS version I have doesn't seem to work with Crysis under Vista(seems to work fine with CoD4), so I'll try to make a better video soon.

It'll accomplish what a Geforce 8600M GT will, because they're practically the same card with minor improvements.

 

I highly suggest changing some of the settings back down to High/Med and changing the Resolution higher and turning the shaders to High. The game will look better and play better.
By the way, it's recommended that if you put Textures on Very High, you have at least 640MB of GDDR3 memory, or else you'll get stuttering.

 

Oh and Fredd, if you wanted to know the difference between the 8600 and the 9500, I beat Crysis with:

1280X800 Resolution

No Anti-aliasing
Texture Quality: Medium
Objects Quality: Medium
Shadows Quality Medium
Physics Quality: High
Shaders Quality: High
Volumetric Effects Quality: Low
Game Effects Quality: High
Particles Quality: High
Water Quality: High
Sound Quality: High

M1530 SPECS IN SIG

And I get
Min. 14FPS
Avg. 21 FPS
Max. 59 FPS

Here's a screen, just for proof:

 

Just wanted to test out the game at the highest it could play at with reasonable gameplay performace.

 

Hi All

Just a quick but extremely important question,

Is there a way to check a laptop Dedicated Video memory ?
tried DXDIAG but that seems to show dedicated+shared memory (ithink)

any other suggestions ???

Cheers
Gav

 

Hi.

try this

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

regards

John.

 

Download GPU-Z.

Edit: Bah, ninja'd

 

Hi there

I want to know if there is a way to check without downloading any software?
Is there anything on the pc that will tell me ?

As i will be going t o a reseller to buy a new laptop and dont trust what retailer tell me as they dont know themselves.

Please help

 

Just tell us what card and computer and we can tell you. Though it doesn't really matter too much how much VRAM there is anyway.

 

1. First of all, does the 8400M GT or the 8600M GS perform better? Is the difference big?
   
2. Secondly, I was wondering, is there a big difference concerning the heat the 8400M GT and the 8600M GS produce? I'm currently doubting between two laptops and want the one I can hold the most comfortably on my lap.

Thanks a lot for your insights!!

 

1. The 8600m GS performs better, the difference isn't that big. The 8600mGS has larger bandwidth and clockspeeds.
2. I am not sure about how much heat the 8400 produces, but I am sure it wouldn't be much less than the 8600.

 

There is a laptop GPU comparison over at Tom's Hardware. I'm too lazy to find the link, but I've used it before. You might check there.

 

what are you laptops your debateing over, than it's an wasy guess

 

Try this one:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=532&card2=533

 

Although the user ratings are higher for the 8400, the 8600 still outperforms the 8400 in every aspect. I find it funny how the performance is rated less for the 8600 than the 8400, even though better specs for the 8600 should translate to better performance lol.

 

Currently I am doubting between two notebook configurations. I want to be able to work with my notebook on my lap for extensive periods of time (I know that -in case of these notebooks- that implies using a socket). Anyway, I therefore am trying to find out which of the models produces the least heat (and related fan noise). If the difference is minimal, the decisive factor will be performance. Money is not an issue.

Main specs of the notebook configurations are:

Notebook 1
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T8300 2.4 GHz 800Mhz FSB
4096MB (2x2048MB) Max 4GB
320GB 5400rpm (10GB for Recovery)
256MB VRAM NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GS 1023MB shared video memory

Notebook 2
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T8300 2.4 GHz 800Mhz FSB
4096MB (2x2048MB) Max 4GB
320GB 5400rpm (10GB for Recovery)
256MB VRAM NVIDIA® GeForce® 8400M GT 1023MB shared video memory

 

What make & model notebooks are they? That information would greatly help.