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How is 7600go 512MB (videocards own memory) 3dmark05-wize?

 

I don't think there is a Go7600 with 512MB dedicated - the highest is 256MB dedicated. You might be seeing the "TurboCache" amunt - 256MB dedicated and 256MB shared. Even if it did have 512MB dedicated, it wouldn't help performance-wise because the Go7600 can't take advantage or make use of it all.

I've been hearing scores for the Go7600 in 3DMark05 to be around ~3,600 to almost 4,000.

Chaz

 

http://www.asus.de/news_show.aspx?id=2787

you can translate that with google translator or babelfish. it clearly says, it has 512MB of the videocards own memory.

many shops are selling ASUS / A6JM-AP007H http://81.169.162.205/shop/index.php?user=nutrius&hkat=1&proid=571&skat=10

which has that 512MB of memory. And i have confirmed it from the shop that sells it and Asus's site says the same, the memory is the cards own memory. NO Turbocache or any other mumbo jumbo.

It would be weird, that nvidia would make a card that would have 256MB's of usable memory and 256MB's of "waste" memory...?

 

That's very interesting . . I wonder why they would put 512MB on a Go7600, but it can't be a bad thing. Regardless, it would get the same 3DMarks as the 256MB version give or take a few points.

It's not that the extra 256MB would be completely useless, but the Go7600 just isn't powerful to 'use' all of it. There are very few cards (the ultra high-end) if any that can effectively use 512MB of VRAM.

Having a 256MB video card for gaming is more than enough these days, but as I said, having 512MB can't be bad.

 

just found this..

Acer 5652 - Geforce 7600 @ 500 Mhz GPU und 200 Mhz Speicher (550/215)

3DMark03 = 9008 (9702)
3DMark05 = 4012 (4352)
3DMark06 = 2442 (2624)
Aquamark 3 = 62,809

Asus A7JC - ATI X1600 @ 446 MhZ GPU und 396 Mhz Speicher

3DMark 05 = 4027
3DMark 06 = 2079

 

Hmmm... i have a TM8204WLMi with an ATI Radeon X1600 256mb dedicated and 256 shared... it kicks the GeForce 7600 512mb TurboCache in the ass when it comes to actually playing video games. Runs FEAR at native resolution (1680x1400) on medium settings...

 

Wow very nice VLAD...running on native on medium Actually didnt expect nVidia to be so bad with the 7600 Go... I think I am going to stay an ATI fan when it comes to mobile videocards.

Charlie-Peru

 

Vlad_I:

Please try to understand, the card I am talking about, is Geforce Go 7600 512MB. It DOES NOT have Turbocache. The memory is the cards OWN memory, not Turbocache. If you have some 3dmark or gaming results with that card (which in my searces is only in the Asus A6JM-AP007H), I would gladly see them.

 

Hi guys,
I'm looking to buy a dell inspiron e1505 notebook the specifications are
Intel® Core™ Duo processor T2300 (2MB Cache/1.66GHz/667MHz FSB)
1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
60GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive

I'm hesitating about which graphic card to choose from between
128MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1300 HyperMemory™
256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory™

I would like to know whether these two graphic cards will support games such as The Sim2 and similar simulation games. I don't play very often but would like the new notebook to support them. And if they both work, should I pay extra for the 256MB graphic card?

Will appreciate if anyone could help me.

Thanks

 

Get the Radeon X1400 "256MB HyperMemory" (it's actually 128MB dedicated and 128MB shared from the main memory).

Even though those cards are not listed in the system requirements list (they came out after that was published), they will play them without problems. You'll get noticably better performance out of the X1400.

Note - please do not double post, thanks. The other thread has been removed.

Chaz

 

Mobile GPU comparison utility:

http://www.geocities.com/djsubtronic/ngc.zip

 

Sweet review. i know i am the hunredth person to say it, but it is.
cheers,
NW

 

Did anyone notice dell had a really good promotion going on today? E1505 with 80gb hd, dvd writer, 1 gb RAM for $699 it was for may 1st only, or so it claimed, but add the x1400 into the mix and it came out to $878 before taxes. Not a bad deal at all IMO. I know they dropped the price before because for weeks I've been eyeballing that laptop for my girl, and the x1400 for myself. So we order it today and boy am I happy I didn't buy it yesterday for $1182+. I wish I had known earlier cause I would've posted this just in case someone else was in the market for a laptop. Keep ur eyes peeled because dell is going nuts and dropping prices left and right. Maybe their new multi core chips are coming out soon. anyway thanks Chaz for the article, its cool that people spend time to provide useful and sensible information and I'll make sure I post if I see any absurd price drops again.

laters.

 

Hi guys, hi Chaz, great chart!
Since it's my first post on NBR, you'll forgive me if i"ll be a lil' offtopic.
I've read this (and many other threads) and I can't seem to make up my mind: I have to choose a config for my first lappy.
I've clearly seen that X200M is far better than 900GMA. But what happens if the X200 runs on a Celeron 1.6Ghz and the 900GMA on a Pentium M 1.73 Ghz? I'm not really into games, still I'd like to play NFSU2, FM2005, some MAFIA, and watch a DVD Movie. Which solution will do better?

PS: Both configs will have 512DDR2@533Mhz and a 5400rpm SATA HDD.

 

The GPU matters most when playing games. If you have a bad GPU such as the GMA900, it doesn't matter what kind of CPU you pair with it, you are still going to have poor performance. In this case. the X200M is a better idea.

 

Yeah i was interested in the 1505 but i was thinking if i waited 2 months you never know if dell might release one with something better x700 x1600 because i dont want to buy a bulky 8 pund 17 inch monster laptop i want something sleeker like the 1505 compared to the 1705 anyone know about how many months between comps it takes dell to release new ones

 

I'm not sure of your budget, needs or anything, but we can help you find a notebook. In the What Should I Buy forum we have an FAQ you can fill out to help us pinpoint your needs; we'll see what is out there for you.

Chaz

 

Well with dell budget isnt a problem because my moms company gets a huge discount and I have lots of money saved up from last summers job and im already working again. I just want the most efficent laptop i can get with a 15 inch or smaller moniter because i think the gigantic ones make you look a little strange lol. To awnser FAQ questions I will be using it for slight gaming and for school work(power point word...) I will be using the notebook to go to tennis tournaments around texas and i have to wait ALONG TIME. so battery life isnt that important maybe 4 hours to get to the destination but while there there should be plugs. The only new game i will play would be oblivion and i understand that just having 20+ Fps on medium settings would be enough. Ohh and tribes vengance. I would also put morrowind and tribes 2 but those arent demanding. I dont care about screen stuff that much just not a blurry one lol.

 

Thanks a lot, Chaz. So...will the Celeron M 1.6+X200M+512DDR2 decently run NFSU2, Mafia, and stuff like that?

 

The Dell E1505 looks like a nice choice, get the 9-cell battery to get better life. The X1400 will be fine with those games, it's not a bad card at all.

Hm, well check the requirements, but the X200M is not going to be able to play games that well . . might look into the Dell E1505 with the X1400, that can be had for around $800 with a Duo, 1GB, 80GB, and the X1400 when on sale.

 

Thanks for the advice. The only lappies available in Romania at 800$ are some A100-528 Toshiba and the 3002LC Acer.
I could get the Toshiba L20-184, Celeron M380, 40Gb SATA, 512DDR2@533Mhz, WIR, DVD DL, X200M, XPPRO for about 900$.
When we talk about dedicated graphics, we talk about at least 1200-1300$(X600).
I know I'm totally off-topic, just wanted to let you know how prices are around here.

Cheers, Chris.

 

Ah yeah, I did not know what country you were in. But, if that is the case, then the X200M is as good as it gets.

Chaz

 

it says on the nvidia website that the Go6600 fully supports Microsoft DX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0, is that true???

 

Yes it does:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/go_6600.html

 

so will it be able to use SM3.0 in games like FARCRY and DoomIII?

 

Yes, any game that can utilize SM 3.0 you can use it in.

Chaz

 

thanks chaz!

i cant wait till my lappie comes!!!! im sooooo excited!!!

 

I just purchased a Dell Inspiron 1705 with an iNvidia 7800 Go graphics card. The iNvidia web site says the card should be running at a Ramdac of 400. I have heard that Dell has intentionally underclocked this card. How do I tell if the card is running at it's full capacity? If not how can I get it to run faster. I hane read that I should remove the driver. But I can not find the replacement drivers on the nVidia website. Thanks.

 

6800 ultra> go7800?

Also, what is the difference between the go 6800 and 6800 ultra...?

 

Here's a quote from Anandtech:

The rest of the review of the Go6800 Ultra is here.

The Go7800 is a faster card at its real settings (not the way Dell sends it in the E1705/9400). It also runs cooler. I don't use synthetic benchmarks all that often to compare performance, but the Go6800U gets about 52-5400, the Go7800 OC'ed to decent speeds gets about 56-5800.

 

ah so it would be fine (most likely) to oc it a bit when i get it?

(the 7800)

 

Yeah, that's what you should do - just check some threads in this forum (the thread search function is in the top right corner "Search this Forum") and see how people are doing it. I don't know why Dell sends it underclocked, but the 'stock' clocks are very low and don't allow the Go7800 to accomplish what it really is capable of.

Chaz

 

lol thanks, and sorry about the multiple questions. I know where the thread search function is =) I choose to bug you guys...haha im kidding, i try to get direct answers I guess and sometimes i get confused.

 

Hey chaz. Thanks alot for the post it helped alot
i have a question. i see nvidia with graphics cards for workstations, like the Quadro FX blah blah [dnt remember the name].
could workstation graphics cards such as this be used for gaming?

 

Yeah, they can. They're more expensive than the regular cards which they are based off of, but are still quite capable of playing games like the regular cards.

Just find the GeForce/Radeon the workstation card is built off of and look up scores for that to gauge performance.

 

thanks alot

 

Chaz,

Great thread. Another question...

For the integrated GPU options, does CPU and memory speed affect the graphics performance enough provide comparable performance to a higher ranked GPU?

Here's the example:

ATI Xpress 200M is ranked higher than a Intel GMA 950.

If you have:

Laptop A: AMD Turion 2.0Ghz with the 200M, "regular" RAM

Laptop B: Intel CoreDuo 2.0 with the GMA 950 and DDR2-667 RAM


Will Laptop B have better graphics performance than Laptop A?

I know it's obvious that Laptop B will be faster overall, but does that translate to the graphics performance.

I would think it would, so in this case GMA 950 > 200M, but something tells me that no matter how fast the CPU is, the GPU is constraint by it's architecture.

Your thoughts?

 

The CPU doesn't matter if you have a junk GPU. The one with the better GPU will be better for games. No amount of processing speed is going to make up for a low-end card.

 

Are there any X1600s with 512 megs of non-shared memory? The only X1600s with 512 megs of memory I've seen have 256 of that shared.

 

It only comes in a version with s56MB dedicated and 256MB shared to my knowledge.

 

Phantom, I merged your thread into here because it keeps the forums more organized.

The answer - not at the moment, no. There is a 512MB dedicated Go7600, but not an X1600.

Chaz

 

Thank you Reize and Chaz for the quick replies.

 

The thread is very helpful for newbies like me...Thnx to the moderator...

 

how good will my configuration play oblivion? what settings can i use, and what frames rates can i expect? (P.S: im okay with 24~30FPS)

 

What can I expect from a sis 650?

 

deedeeman: It'll play it fine, you'll have to turn down the settings a bit though.

stuntin909: Horrible performance in anything 3D.

 

Can an Ati x1400 run COD2 well? or should I just try to find a laptop with an x1600?

 

I merged it with this for reasons I merged other threads - it can be answered in here.

It should run it OK, not at super high settings but still decent. If you pair it up with a Core Duo processor and install the dual-core patch, it should be pretty fast. I'd go for an X1600 if you plan to do higher-end gaming. It will handle CoD 2 without any trouble.

 

Thanks ChazMan, Sorry for starting a new thread for something that can be added to an already existing one.

 

Also I wanted to know with the new AMD Core Dual coming out soon, will there be any difference with the current GPU's out when compared with the Intel Duos'? And should I just wait in general for Intel's new Merom processor?