I play the latest games on my 7300 and like i siad at 1024x768 or 1280x800 which ever is the highest the gamne supports. Where do you get 640x480? And yes this guide is miss leading. If you have problems with your 7300 playing games update the damn driver. The older drivers make the card run games badly but the new ones work perfect. I am currently running 91.28.
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Look . . I put the guide here to help people out. You can either accept it or not, but the Go7300 is a low-end, budget card with weak performance compared to the mainstream. I honestly would not recommend a Go7300/X1300 for playing games on a regular basis. Much better than integrated, but far from optimal.
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Resolution is the number one killer of performance, hence why I stated in the guide that it should be kept down on lower-end cards. The fill-rate just isn't there to provide the performance. Lower resolutions help framerates.
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Notebook Solutions Company Representative NBR Reviewer
I agree with Chaz there.
Can you give an example of a game you can run at 1280*800? Maybe Oblivion or something. Now dont say you run an old game at 1280*800, because everyone can run an old game on a low-end card with high fps.
I have check the whole guide and it's 100% true. And please try to watch your language so we dont get a fight here.
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BTW I am done here don't want to start a fight we all have differant views but to stat a card is just without actully using it is wrong. I have used both the 7300 and the x700 so I can actully comment on both cards. And I always use the lastest drivers and never underclock or overclock. No there was a posability my x700 was a junk card it was in an Acer Ferrari.
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id say thats a big possibility
no one else is having trouble with the x700
what frame rate do u get with the go7300 on FEAR @ 1280x800, max settings?
if its over 50fps i will eat my hat!
---------------------------------x700------------------------------go7300
Module Configuration-------------Mobility Radeon X700--------------Nvidia GeforceGo7300
Core Clock Rate------------------350MHz---------------------------350MHz
Pixel Fill-rate---------------------2.8GPixels/sec--------------------1.4GPixels/sec
Texture Fill-rate------------------2.8GTexels/sec-------------------1.2GTexels/sec
Geometry Rate-------------------525MVertices/sec-----------------260MVertices/sec
Memory Speed-------------------350MHz(700MHz effective)---------300MHz (600MHz effective)
Memory Bandwidth---------------11.2GB/sec------------------------5.6GB/sec
Pixel Pipelines---------------------8--------------------------------4
Vertex Engines--------------------6--------------------------------3
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umm, maybe he got a "special" card?
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Either way, let's not press the issue so we don't start any arguements.
Thanks,
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Ha, so much heat being generated by graphics cards, literally and figuratively. I personally like a card that is better than intergrated graphics (I currently have).....which stands to be every and any card that is dedicated. But man alive I would absolutely love a 7900GS. But again, GPU=$$$$$, and the latter I have very little of. Rent is expected to rise 5% on a national average.
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all mighty chaz,
any ideas of specs of the go6150 in the dv2000? im thinkin of getting that with the 52 X2 processor. I don't do much gaming at all right now, but i can see myself doing some and i want to have the option. what do you think?
thanks in advance,
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Hey hey, I'm a regular forum member like you, not all mighty! I appreciate you thinking of me highly though.
The Go6150 is Nvidia's answer to the Radeon Xpress 200M - I have not included it in the chart yet because there are no benchmark numbers, but more or less, it should be around the X200M in terms of performance. Check out this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=26318
People are reporting what they can play on the X200M in there.
I think the dv2000z is a good notebook, but I'd go for something with a better performing GPU for gaming. Depends on your budget and a bunch of other factors; perhaps you could complete the FAQ for us and we can help you out.
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thanks, that helps. My thought is that a faster hardrive with SATA and DDR2 ram will still make a decent computer. I have no idea how the processor is, it seems pretty lightweight. I would imagine in terms of gaming it will still perform better than a DV5000 with dedicated correct? how many MB is the 6150?
Thank you,
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Which version of the dv5000? There's the dv5000z with the Turion 64/X200M and the dv5000t and Duo/Go7400.
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Hey Almighty Chazman (to quote fizzledion),
is this normal temperature for my card: 60~70 during websurfing?
45~53 during gamming?
is 60~70C high? normal? or OK???
please , this had been bothering me lately, because i dont want to fry my GPU in 1 month!!! can you tell me how much your x700 gets in terms of temperature????/?
btw..................i talked to rick (ISTNC manager or something) and he said that there is a posibility that Quanta might release an MXM upgrade for my notebook model(KN1-PM)......but the chances are slim....very slim...
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the dv5000z with turion and dedicated x200m
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
I'd say the Go6150 would be better if it had faster RAM and a dual-core processor. Dual-core is well worth it these days, and isn't expensive (relatively).
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So how about this configuration chaz? will a VERY light gamer and someone who just generally wants a well performing computer be satisfied?
Operating System Genuine Windows XP Professional
Processor AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 (1.60GHz/512KB)
Display 14.1" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)
Graphics Card NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 6150
Memory 1.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x512MB)
Hard Drive 60 GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA Hard Drive
Primary CD/DVD Drive Super Multi 8X DVD+/-R/RW w/Double Layer Support
Networking 802.11a/b/g WLAN and Bluetooth
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Should play most games, but on low settings and resolution. For $1463 you can get a better notebook for games.
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to be totally honest, i haven't loaded one gmae on my desktop that i just built 5 months ago. It has sli 7800 gt's, X2 processor and 2 gb of ram... it could game, i just never have the time. With college coming AND atheltics and working my current job only from 90 miles away, i will pry have my hands full. If im sitting in my dorm playing gmaes, ive got it all wrong, lol. As a computer used for internet, papers, music, IM... how will this do? when i saw it in person, it was quite light, nice keyboard, decent screen. In terms of hardware, it seems adiquite. Thank for you help, it made my decision a lot easier!!! i plan to order tonight!
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
There is no such thing as a GeForce Go7800GS, you mean the Go7900GS. It's in there.
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Chaz, is it correct that the dedicated 200m is on the same level as the 6150? that just doesnt seem right, even if it is faster, it doesn't have any dedicated memory as far as i know..
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Chaz,
My Dell order document definitely says " 256 MB NVIDIA Go 7800 GS". The system with the 7900 GS is quite alot more expensive as well.
I also have a section of a post, from another forum where someone else has been bought a similar spec....
Well after plenty of research and advice from you guys here at WL forums, i purchased the Dell inspiron 9400, spec below...
Intel Centrino Duo 1.66GHz
1GB DDR2 667MHz RAM
Go 7800GS 256MB
17" Ultrasharp screen
60GB 5400rpm HD
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
What did you select as the graphics card when you bought it?
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ArthurofChicago Notebook Consultant
Any word on ATI's Radeon Xpress 1150 with up to 128-MB shared system memory which HP is now offering with their new X2 Notebook the HP Compaq nx6325? I assume it is an improvement over the 200 but how does it rate for gaming and 3D?
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
The X1150 should be about 33% faster than the X200M, but there are no benchmarks out yet:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/17/ati_launches_xpress_1100/
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chuchutrain Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer
dang. amazingly useful. thanks!
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Awesome thread.
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What one do you think is better and why?
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the x1600 is just better. it can handle the newest games in mid-high settings. the 7400go can play most games on medium settings but will struggle a bit with the newer ones, e.g. oblivion.
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Your answer can be found in this thread, try and read the stickies before you post.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=39568
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wheres does the nvidia quadro nvs fit in this list?
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well since the Quadro's are workstation graphics and not designed for games, they pretty much dont fit in here, but on the other hand they do. They can PLAY games, but are just not designed for them (different 3d core architcture....more in the way for OpenGL than DirectX or Direct3D). So the Quadro equivelent of the Go7600 will play games at the performance of the Go6600, but will give CAD performance of the Go6800 or 7800
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
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hey i'm probably asking in the wrong spot, but I don't know what graphics card I have. (Parents bought as gift) Is there a program or software I can use to find out? thanks
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
To find out what graphics card you have:
-Right-click on the desktop
-Hit Properties
-Go to the Settings tab
In the drop-down menu, it will say what your card is. And this is the right place to ask, so don't worry.
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To what desktop GPU can the intel GMA950 be compared to?
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It can be compared to the desktop version of GMA 950, and possibly the desktop GMA900. I hold a personal belief thathtey are all crap, and are ok for older low end games (NFS Underground, etc)
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
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Question:
I had my heart set on a Sager 5320 which, for those who don't know, was discontinued and somewhat replaced with the 5750.
My job is paying for half of whatever computer I select but I can only afford about $900 and that's pushing it. I want a desktop replacement that I can use at work, but is powerful enough to handle most games. I don't neccessarily need Oblivion to run at max settings but would like to play it without noticing any major issues.
To make a long story short, will the X1600 with only 128mb of dedicated Video Memory(only option with the 5750) be ok if I have 2GB of RAM to help with the "Up to 512MB HyperMemory" to play most of todays games?
Any opinions on this would be much appreciated!
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hey guys...i was interested in getting the dell e1705/9400 with the 7900GS video card...but sooo far im unsure of the performance and was wondering if sum1 with that kinda config can post sum 3D Mark 05 and 06 scores....
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
I merged your thread into this one because it deals with the same topic essentially.
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Thanks Chazman!...i was also wondering if anyone that has this video card can comment on the performance and how it handles the latest games....any input wud be much appreciated...thanks in advance
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Battlefield 2 runs on max settings without a hiccup. I have 2 gigs of ram too, so I'm sure that helps.
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Notebook Solutions Company Representative NBR Reviewer
At native resolution? 1920*1200?
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I can't force it on native res. It runs on 1600x1200, how do I get it to go to 1920x1200?
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
This really isn't the place to discuss it, but go to www.widescreengamingforum.com and they have an easy mod there.
UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 4, 2006.