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    UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. Asoulintime1982

    Asoulintime1982 Notebook Guru

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    I play the latest games on my 7300 and like i siad at 1024x768 or 1280x800 which ever is the highest the gamne supports. Where do you get 640x480? And yes this guide is miss leading. If you have problems with your 7300 playing games update the damn driver. The older drivers make the card run games badly but the new ones work perfect. I am currently running 91.28.
     
  2. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Look . . I put the guide here to help people out. You can either accept it or not, but the Go7300 is a low-end, budget card with weak performance compared to the mainstream. I honestly would not recommend a Go7300/X1300 for playing games on a regular basis. Much better than integrated, but far from optimal.
     
  3. Asoulintime1982

    Asoulintime1982 Notebook Guru

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    But you shouls also sate the cars will play the games at native res without a glich unless you never used a 7300 and your just opening your mouth like most people.
     
  4. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Resolution is the number one killer of performance, hence why I stated in the guide that it should be kept down on lower-end cards. The fill-rate just isn't there to provide the performance. Lower resolutions help framerates.
    I don't know what framerates you prefer, but I'm going on a 30FPS standard basis.
     
  5. Notebook Solutions

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    I agree with Chaz there.

    Can you give an example of a game you can run at 1280*800? Maybe Oblivion or something. Now dont say you run an old game at 1280*800, because everyone can run an old game on a low-end card with high fps.

    I have check the whole guide and it's 100% true. And please try to watch your language so we dont get a fight here.

    Charlie-Peru :)
     
  6. Asoulintime1982

    Asoulintime1982 Notebook Guru

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    If you would have rad my eallier post you would have seen this.
     
  7. Asoulintime1982

    Asoulintime1982 Notebook Guru

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    BTW I am done here don't want to start a fight we all have differant views but to stat a card is just without actully using it is wrong. I have used both the 7300 and the x700 so I can actully comment on both cards. And I always use the lastest drivers and never underclock or overclock. No there was a posability my x700 was a junk card it was in an Acer Ferrari.
     
  8. cbrviper

    cbrviper Notebook Guru NBR Reviewer

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    id say thats a big possibility

    no one else is having trouble with the x700

    what frame rate do u get with the go7300 on FEAR @ 1280x800, max settings?

    if its over 50fps i will eat my hat!

    ---------------------------------x700------------------------------go7300

    Module Configuration-------------Mobility Radeon X700--------------Nvidia GeforceGo7300
    Core Clock Rate------------------350MHz---------------------------350MHz
    Pixel Fill-rate---------------------2.8GPixels/sec--------------------1.4GPixels/sec
    Texture Fill-rate------------------2.8GTexels/sec-------------------1.2GTexels/sec
    Geometry Rate-------------------525MVertices/sec-----------------260MVertices/sec
    Memory Speed-------------------350MHz(700MHz effective)---------300MHz (600MHz effective)
    Memory Bandwidth---------------11.2GB/sec------------------------5.6GB/sec
    Pixel Pipelines---------------------8--------------------------------4
    Vertex Engines--------------------6--------------------------------3

    nuff said!
     
  9. Deadbolt360

    Deadbolt360 Notebook Evangelist

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    umm, maybe he got a "special" card?
     
  10. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Either way, let's not press the issue so we don't start any arguements.

    Thanks,
    Chaz
     
  11. camsimple

    camsimple Notebook Evangelist

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    Ha, so much heat being generated by graphics cards, literally and figuratively. I personally like a card that is better than intergrated graphics (I currently have).....which stands to be every and any card that is dedicated. But man alive I would absolutely love a 7900GS. But again, GPU=$$$$$, and the latter I have very little of. Rent is expected to rise 5% on a national average.
     
  12. fizzleation

    fizzleation Notebook Consultant

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    all mighty chaz,
    any ideas of specs of the go6150 in the dv2000? im thinkin of getting that with the 52 X2 processor. I don't do much gaming at all right now, but i can see myself doing some and i want to have the option. what do you think?

    thanks in advance,
    Samuel
     
  13. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Hey hey, I'm a regular forum member like you, not all mighty! I appreciate you thinking of me highly though. ;)

    The Go6150 is Nvidia's answer to the Radeon Xpress 200M - I have not included it in the chart yet because there are no benchmark numbers, but more or less, it should be around the X200M in terms of performance. Check out this thread:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=26318
    People are reporting what they can play on the X200M in there.

    I think the dv2000z is a good notebook, but I'd go for something with a better performing GPU for gaming. Depends on your budget and a bunch of other factors; perhaps you could complete the FAQ for us and we can help you out.

    Chaz
     
  14. fizzleation

    fizzleation Notebook Consultant

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    thanks, that helps. My thought is that a faster hardrive with SATA and DDR2 ram will still make a decent computer. I have no idea how the processor is, it seems pretty lightweight. I would imagine in terms of gaming it will still perform better than a DV5000 with dedicated correct? how many MB is the 6150?

    Thank you,
    Samuel
     
  15. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Which version of the dv5000? There's the dv5000z with the Turion 64/X200M and the dv5000t and Duo/Go7400.

    I am unsure about the memory - nothing is said about that in Nvidia's site, haven't been able to find out how much memory the Go6150 has.
     
  16. deedeeman

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    Hey Almighty Chazman (to quote fizzledion),
    is this normal temperature for my card: 60~70 during websurfing?
    45~53 during gamming?

    is 60~70C high? normal? or OK???

    please , this had been bothering me lately, because i dont want to fry my GPU in 1 month!!! can you tell me how much your x700 gets in terms of temperature????/?

    btw..................i talked to rick (ISTNC manager or something) and he said that there is a posibility that Quanta might release an MXM upgrade for my notebook model(KN1-PM)......but the chances are slim....very slim...

    but...it would be good to upgrade to a go7600.....
     
  17. fizzleation

    fizzleation Notebook Consultant

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    the dv5000z with turion and dedicated x200m
     
  18. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I'd say the Go6150 would be better if it had faster RAM and a dual-core processor. Dual-core is well worth it these days, and isn't expensive (relatively).

    deedeeman: I don't know my X700's temperature, it has no sensor so I cannot monitor it. Your temperatures are fine, there is nothing to worry about.
     
  19. fizzleation

    fizzleation Notebook Consultant

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    So how about this configuration chaz? will a VERY light gamer and someone who just generally wants a well performing computer be satisfied?

    Operating System Genuine Windows XP Professional

    Processor AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Mobile TL-52 (1.60GHz/512KB)

    Display 14.1" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)

    Graphics Card NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 6150

    Memory 1.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x512MB)

    Hard Drive 60 GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA Hard Drive

    Primary CD/DVD Drive Super Multi 8X DVD+/-R/RW w/Double Layer Support

    Networking 802.11a/b/g WLAN and Bluetooth

    Primary Battery 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
     
  20. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Should play most games, but on low settings and resolution. For $1463 you can get a better notebook for games.

    For a very light gamer, yes, it will be fine. Don't expect to run the likes of FEAR on it though.
     
  21. fizzleation

    fizzleation Notebook Consultant

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    to be totally honest, i haven't loaded one gmae on my desktop that i just built 5 months ago. It has sli 7800 gt's, X2 processor and 2 gb of ram... it could game, i just never have the time. With college coming AND atheltics and working my current job only from 90 miles away, i will pry have my hands full. If im sitting in my dorm playing gmaes, ive got it all wrong, lol. As a computer used for internet, papers, music, IM... how will this do? when i saw it in person, it was quite light, nice keyboard, decent screen. In terms of hardware, it seems adiquite. Thank for you help, it made my decision a lot easier!!! i plan to order tonight!
     
  22. darthmaul

    darthmaul Newbie

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    I have found the chart very informative and helpful.

    I have just purchased a Dell 9400 with NV 7800 gs. This card does not appear on the chart is it the same as 7800 go ?.
     
  23. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    There is no such thing as a GeForce Go7800GS, you mean the Go7900GS. It's in there. ;)
     
  24. fizzleation

    fizzleation Notebook Consultant

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    Chaz, is it correct that the dedicated 200m is on the same level as the 6150? that just doesnt seem right, even if it is faster, it doesn't have any dedicated memory as far as i know..

    Thanks,
    Samuel
     
  25. darthmaul

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    Chaz,


    My Dell order document definitely says " 256 MB NVIDIA Go 7800 GS". The system with the 7900 GS is quite alot more expensive as well.

    I also have a section of a post, from another forum where someone else has been bought a similar spec....

    Well after plenty of research and advice from you guys here at WL forums, i purchased the Dell inspiron 9400, spec below...
    Intel Centrino Duo 1.66GHz
    1GB DDR2 667MHz RAM
    Go 7800GS 256MB
    17" Ultrasharp screen
    60GB 5400rpm HD

    Price = £940
     
  26. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    What did you select as the graphics card when you bought it?
     
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    Any word on ATI's Radeon Xpress 1150 with up to 128-MB shared system memory which HP is now offering with their new X2 Notebook the HP Compaq nx6325? I assume it is an improvement over the 200 but how does it rate for gaming and 3D?
     
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    dang. amazingly useful. thanks!
     
  30. Nick_Mick_Yok

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    Awesome thread.

    Cheers!
     
  31. scubadog40

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    What one do you think is better and why?
     
  32. ejl

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    the x1600 is just better. it can handle the newest games in mid-high settings. the 7400go can play most games on medium settings but will struggle a bit with the newer ones, e.g. oblivion.
     
  33. Charles P. Jefferies

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    wheres does the nvidia quadro nvs fit in this list?
     
  35. deedeeman

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    well since the Quadro's are workstation graphics and not designed for games, they pretty much dont fit in here, but on the other hand they do. They can PLAY games, but are just not designed for them (different 3d core architcture....more in the way for OpenGL than DirectX or Direct3D). So the Quadro equivelent of the Go7600 will play games at the performance of the Go6600, but will give CAD performance of the Go6800 or 7800
     
  36. Charles P. Jefferies

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    It doesn't. I don't include the QuardoFX and FireGL cards because they are not mainstream, and a very small percentage of notebooks have they. They are for workstation use.
     
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    hey i'm probably asking in the wrong spot, but I don't know what graphics card I have. (Parents bought as gift) Is there a program or software I can use to find out? thanks
     
  38. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    To find out what graphics card you have:
    -Right-click on the desktop
    -Hit Properties
    -Go to the Settings tab

    In the drop-down menu, it will say what your card is. And this is the right place to ask, so don't worry.

    Cheers,
    Chaz
     
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    To what desktop GPU can the intel GMA950 be compared to?

    thanks.
     
  40. er12345

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    any desktop integrated i guess...

    They are all similar in that they do not perform well at playing games.
     
  41. Redline

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    It can be compared to the desktop version of GMA 950, and possibly the desktop GMA900. I hold a personal belief thathtey are all crap, and are ok for older low end games (NFS Underground, etc)
     
  42. Charles P. Jefferies

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    The Desktop GMA950. I'm going to merge this thread with the Mobile graphics card chart since it deals with comparisions.
     
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    Question:

    I had my heart set on a Sager 5320 which, for those who don't know, was discontinued and somewhat replaced with the 5750.

    My job is paying for half of whatever computer I select but I can only afford about $900 and that's pushing it. I want a desktop replacement that I can use at work, but is powerful enough to handle most games. I don't neccessarily need Oblivion to run at max settings but would like to play it without noticing any major issues.

    To make a long story short, will the X1600 with only 128mb of dedicated Video Memory(only option with the 5750) be ok if I have 2GB of RAM to help with the "Up to 512MB HyperMemory" to play most of todays games?

    Any opinions on this would be much appreciated!

    TONGTONK
     
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    hey guys...i was interested in getting the dell e1705/9400 with the 7900GS video card...but sooo far im unsure of the performance and was wondering if sum1 with that kinda config can post sum 3D Mark 05 and 06 scores....
    thanks!
     
  45. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I merged your thread into this one because it deals with the same topic essentially.

    I've been observing scores of 6400-6600 for the Go7900GS in 3DMark05. Remember that they are synthetic benchmarks and mean nothing in terms of real-world gaming performance, which is more important. ;)
     
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    Thanks Chazman!...i was also wondering if anyone that has this video card can comment on the performance and how it handles the latest games....any input wud be much appreciated...thanks in advance
     
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    Battlefield 2 runs on max settings without a hiccup. I have 2 gigs of ram too, so I'm sure that helps.
     
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    At native resolution? 1920*1200?

    Charlie :)
     
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    I can't force it on native res. It runs on 1600x1200, how do I get it to go to 1920x1200?
     
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