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    Uninstalling FarCry 2 *Rant*

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Ripfire, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. brainer

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    i think everybody is playing that :D anyways Chase.. Mind compacting your Signature a lil bit? :p
     
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    id recommend Dead Space over Farcry 2 and Fallout 3 over both of them easily

    deadspace made me think of how badly they messed up with Bioshock by making the enemies all cartoony
     
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    World at war is an RTS game that is designed with consoles in mind first.. It's going to be terrible!

    Currently I can't put Fallout 3 ahead of farcry 2 yet, Until they release a patch, or AMD releases a new driver that enables Crossfire for it.. In Fallout 3 I get 70% less FPS with crossfire enabled. runs decent in single card tho ...
     
  4. Ennea

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    It's all subjective. If you want to waste your $50 by not playing a game that doesn't hook you until later, that's your decision. Also, it doesn't have to hook you 6 hours later, I'm sure it's different for everyone. And how are the car physics terrible? What FPS has awesome driving anyway? If you ask me, demanding something to be like that within the first 30 minutes or so is rather childish.

    I couldn't really pick between Dead Space, FC2, or F3. They all have their reasons for being awesome, so I got all three.
     
  5. emike09

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    By far the WORST game I've ever played.
     
  6. Ennea

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    Reasons would be great, as your subjective "worst" has no definition currently.
     
  7. brainer

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    Worst is over the top..

    Are you people THAT spoiled because of crysis?
     
  8. taigech

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    Crysis didnt spoil anyone. It wasn't that great of a game...
     
  9. brainer

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    you see... People with Good gaming machines are really spoiled about it, its like a God like game from them, i mean Graphically yes thats true, but gameplay wise, only nanosuite is interesting
     
  10. unknown555525

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    Actually for me, the nanosuit wasn't that interesting..

    What WAS interesting was driving through a house with a tank :D Total disregaurd for trees, and huge EXPLOSIVES!
     
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    and that too.. rofl
     
  12. emike09

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    Why worst? Not much that hasn't been covered in this forum.

    For one, graphically its a great disappointment. Screams CONSOLE when playing it. Its flat cardboard like shaders belong closer to that of Half Life two, with things such as mediocre HDR, crappy DOF, incredibly bland textures, low frames / visual quality ratio, no DX10 only features such as parallax occlusion mapping, soft particles, and distance DOF, and on and on and on.

    Yes, I know graphics aren't everything, but gameplay was horrific. I couldn't go more than a couple minutes without malaria killing me, and hitting the H key would do nothing. I'd just die... mouse smoothing is insane, even when turned off. When I move the mouse, I want it to do exactly what I tell it, not smoothly accelerate and decelarate the motion of the camera. Also screams CONSOLE.

    Plus every other negative thing thats been mentioned here.

    Like I said before, this game belongs back in 2005-2006. Its old. And features like "growing fire" doesn't sell me. Also, is bugs me when they market things that have existed for a while as new and amazing, like time of day, dof, and the like. I could go on for a while, but I'm tired of even thinking about the game.

    FC2 is nothing more than a failed port console game. I think a lot of people here defend it because of the hype it was given, but when it all comes down to it, what really makes this game any different from anything else thats been released, besides a new setting and storyline?
     
  13. I♥RAM

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    Hey! Half Life 2 is fun > : ( ... graphics arent THAT bad. Not when I run on max settings w/ 6X AA and 16X AF.

    Gotta love older games :D
     
  14. emike09

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    Oh I love HF2 also! And they aren't that bad, but I'm just saying that FC2 is very similar to HL2 overall. With lots of grass and lots of crappy trees.
     
  15. Ennea

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    Um, malaria killing you? Really... ? No offense, but you just sound like you're bad at this game. Malaria is like the last thing to kill anyone. I don't know if anyone else got a huge kick out of this, but I really do.

    Graphically it is not bad at all. If you're so confident why don't you show us better examples of "HDR, crappy DOF, incredibly bland textures, low frames / visual quality ratio, no DX10 only features such as parallax occlusion mapping, soft particles, and distance DOF..."

    What FPS has time of day where you can freely manipulate when you want to tackle a mission?

    Actually, it seems now that the people who complain about it the most sound like they're the worst at this game. It's definitely not an easy game, especially on infamous. That's part of what I love about it. Crysis on Delta is laughable.
     
  16. maksin01

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    meh I've already said those who hate FC2 sounds like they're just not hardcore enough for it... ;)
    and I still believe I'm right no matter what other says. :cool:

    Me? I LOVE the new awesome weapons once you get to the second map... :D The main missions are so cool I can't stop playing it now... Grenade launcher jeep FTW!!! XD
     
  17. Ennea

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    I totally agree. For those who don't have the patience to stick with it, you're seriously missing out on the awesome half of the game.
     
  18. strider3871

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    Yes, I totally agree with you. It seems most people consider that Far Cry 2 is a big let down because they are all missing the main point of what the developer was trying to present the audience with. I still remember that when Crysis came out a while ago, a lot of people were bashing it due to the high requirement (of the system), some of them even emphasized that it was stupid to produce a game that even a high end system equipped with a killer graphic card sometimes still struggle to play it. Now we have Far Cry 2, and surprisingly they complain that it is not as good as Crysis <sigh>
     
  19. emike09

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    I spent 8 hours playing the ****ed game and couldn't get passed a certain checkpoint. Cuz of malaria. And I believe it to be a glitch in the game, and not me sucking at the game, as you so rudely suggested, Ennea. I could be doing anything at all when suddenly things would start flashing and I'd die.

    Also, charactors would take 5-10 direct bullets and act like nothing happened. A spray of blood would be all. For a "realistic game", this seemed very unreal tournament ish for me. At least in COD4, if you shot a guys leg, it would cripple him and he'd fall to the ground. Claiming that people that hate the game suck at it is a fanboyish claim. FPS is nothing new to me, and playing on hard settings is a norm.

    There is no such thing as being not HARDCORE enough for a game. Only morons who think they are better than others and have an ego project of proving it.

    What other game had "manipulative" time of day? How about GTA IV? Oblivion? And how old is Oblivion? Time of Day is nothing new here.

    Games with better HDR? Crysis, Oblivion, FSX Acceleration, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Grid, etc...

    Games with better Parallax Occlusion Mapping: Crysis,

    Soft particles: World in Conflict, FSX Acceleration, Company of Heroes, Crysis, Dead Space, Fallout 3, Grid, etc.

    And I'm tired of writing this.

    Some comparison screens from crysis and far cry 2:

    EVERYTHING MAXED, INCLUDING 8x AA:

    Canopy and trees:
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    Water:
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Explosions and Fire:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    In Vehicle:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Even if you ignore the different times of day, the contrast is vivid. And I know the FPS is about 1/2 to 1/3 that of FC2 in those screens, but I don't normally need AA turned on, which at 8x frames down significantly. I njust don't see how anybody could claim Far Cry 2 is impressive visually. Everything is so bland.

    I gave it quite a bit of time. If it takes 8 hours to start enjoying the game, I think I'd rather pass it up.
     
  20. I♥RAM

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    Since Ubisoft made FC2, is it fair to compare it to Crysis graphically?

    Serious question, no sarcasm or anything.
     
  21. Ennea

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    Malaria doesn't randomly kill you. It will always warn you, even when you're low on pills, so that's instantly invalid. It's your fualt for not getting more pills or taking them before you drop dead. Care to explain this "glitch" to us? As I'm almost positive that there's a simple explanation for it. Also, I said FPS, try reading my post word for word, though I know it's hard for you apparently. Also, people definitely die in under 10 bullets, I know this for a fact as I never spray and I'm on infamous so it can't possibly get any harder. No one is being a fan boy, once again if you read all our earlier posts, which you clearly didn't, we agree with some of the gripes. It's just several of your points as well as other's aren't agreeable.

    Yet again, all you're doing is stating those games, which most aren't even FPS. Where are your examples? It's still your subjective opinion. Also, no I don't think it's fair to compare it to Crysis. What checkpoint and mission were you on exactly? 'Cause once again you could just be saying you're that far without proving yourself.

    Note your horrible FPS while in max settings. FC2 isn't as crisp but the FPS is much better, for obvious reasons.
     
  22. Selenium

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    If you don't like the gameplay, that's one thing. But to assert that the graphics are crap just because they aren't as detailed as Crysis'? C'mon now. Let's be reasonable.
     
  23. Ennea

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    Precisely. I'm glad most of us here can see/agree with my point.
     
  24. emike09

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    And as for as my framerates in those screenshots, they had 8xAA turned on, if you would have read the thread. With AA off, They are up around 25-30fps full resolution. Every other game coming out right now have graphics that blow those of Far Cry 2s out of the water.

    I'm not going to argue any further. You guys are fanboys and will die by your game, even if it does suck. I've voiced my opinions and am leaving it at that. And there are only 2-3 people here who are agreeing with you in this thread.

    And it does NOT matter whether a game is a FPS, game technology is the same between genres. And GTA IV is as good as a FPS, if thats too hard for you to understand.
     
  25. I♥RAM

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    Rofl, all this time I thought GTA IV was a third-person shooter. I'm a nut!
     
  26. emike09

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    Ya'll tell me what makes Far Cry 2 such an amazing game and different from any other... I'm listening...
     
  27. Ennea

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    You're not continuing because you can't. I highly doubt you got through 6 hours without learning how to handle Malaria. brainer, unknown, strider, and selenium are just a few who agree.

    It does matter if it's an FPS or not. The coding alone is already different between the genres. If it's so easy to make Crysis-like graphics then why is Crysis the only successful one to do so? As for what makes FC2 good, try actually reading some of our posts earlier.

    -Expansive environment - not only just means that it's huge but you can approach locations any way you want: from behind? Rambo it up front? Take a secret passageway underground/underwater?
    -Realistic effects: Motion blur/Exhaustion blur on stamina depletion, treating wounds, entering car on wrong side will hop on another side, vehicles destroying objects in the environment, growth of fire, buddies stay dead when they die, even more to list.
    -Difficultly. Hard game, no doubt.
    -Weapon selection and upgrades are nice, especially in the 2nd half of the game
    -Day and Night cycles allow you to tackle missions under your preferences. First for an FPS.
    -Multiplayer itself is good. Searching for servers in it, is not.
    -Buddy system is a nice touch, especially in a hard game like this. Buddy AI is also pretty good most of the time (Flora cleared out a whole town for me once).
    -AI itself is a throw up, sometimes excellent sometimes wall humping idiots. But, they have personality. You can hear them discuss realistic things when alert and un-alert.
    -Graphically pleasing. Not Crysis-level, but then again, what other game is? Seriously now.
     
  28. Selenium

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    It isn't an amazing game, but it certainly isn't the "worst", either.
     
  29. BenLeonheart

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    *lols*

    Farcry 2 is kinda cool... its not that amaz0mging thing, but... its very fun :)

    Now, emike09, if you payed for the game, and are not satisfied? thats not our falt you don't like it...

    As for me, my friend lend it to me, and I'm currently on 9%... its quite actually entertaining... at least while Fallout 3 arrives!

    And, well I do understad some points... but comparing graphics, yes, it can be done since FarCry 2 and Crysis are both FPS's so they're on the same league...

    Yes, FC2, lacks a bit on the graphics side...(not as detailed as Crysis), but let alone FC2, its got its own little world and atmosphere...

    I live by the Gameplay>Graphics mod v.2.1 installed on my neural system,
    that means that i'll enjoy Mario Kart SNES 102910929 more than I will any other game on the planet.

    Every one states a valid point, thats what forums are for, discussing and sometimes ranting your *** off...

    I respect all your guys' opinions...

    and i'm sure all of y'all's lawn gnomes do too.
     
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    If it were made by the same developers you could compare, but FC2 is made by Ubisoft. Also, it's probably of lower quality because Crysis has it's limits as a linear FPS. In FC2 you have so very many more options. So, how much would it hurt your FPS if you had Crysis level graphics in FC2? I'd imagine it being even harder to run than Crysis.

    As for the dialogue, yeah but at least they respond properly. Like you can tell when you've lost them because you'll hear them in the distance talking about how they can't find you. Or when they've spotted you they'll announce it for the whole camp and what not. Nice touch, IMO. Audio is pretty solid in this game.
     
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    I have to agree, it is definately solid... dang.... and yes, i just love how you can approach the missions how u like...

    Umm... I just stated as a genre comparison, the graphics difference, but... I would have lived with FC2 even if it was like XIII (Cel-shaded), I don't care as long as a game can immerse me into it... FarCry2 immerses me into thinking that i'm on block of extracted land of friggin' Africa fo crying out loud.

    Same as Crysis, got me into it (maybe not as much as FC2, but it surewas entertaining!)
     
  33. emike09

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    Not when I try explaining my opinions to the likes of you. Brainer and I have never really agreed on anything either.
     
  34. Ripfire

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    Wow, I didn't mean to start a war with this thread. :D And hopefully this wont throw fuel on the fire, although it has been very entertaining. :D

    But seriously, I think the FC2 Lovers & Haters all have valid disputes. *Except Maksin01 :rolleyes:

    @Ennea: I wasn't trying to totally trash FC2, it just didn't do it for me. I do have a bit of a short attention span you could say, and stray away from missions sometimes. That's what I really like about the GTA series, I can go and just do random things to have fun. FarCry2 doesn't offer this, if I'm not doing missions, nothing else to do. But to give you credit, at least not at the point I played to. Long story short, I'm glad you enjoy the game, but I don't wanna play 6 hours in to start having fun. + It's not the blur when the stamina is spent that bothers me, it's how fast it happens.

    @maksin01: Again with this hardcore stuff? If your definition of Hardcore is playing through a game that I don't enjoy, and not mentioning any thing wrong with the game that I found while playing, then... I guess you are right, I must not be "Hardcore" enough for FarCry2. :eek: :eek: Your statements are complete fanboyism.

    @emike09: Totally agree, the game feels very console-ish, enemies do take too much damage to kill (and before any hardcore issues come up on this, all I'm saying is, that if you shoot someone in the head, they should die! period.)
    And we must be the only ones that think the whole malaria thing is retarded. Great posts, nice pics.

    @unknown555525: "What WAS interesting was driving through a house with a tank :D Total disregaurd for trees, and huge EXPLOSIVES!" Yes! very awesome. (Some things I do when tired of missions.)

    @Selenium: "Yes, the game takes place in Africa, but that doesn't mean it's going to be a FPS wrapped in a National Geographic special. What did you expect, Mufasa to make a cameo saying "Warren, you have forgotten me therefore you have forgotten who you are" before mowing him down with a Mac-10?" I officially "Laughed Out Loud" at this. Thx for the chuckle.

    But I just didn't like this one, and that's fine. I think its an ok basic game, nothing really shines for me in it. I don't mind driving, but it's a bit much in this game, and it's not fun. And I hate how some buildings are just closed up, and can't be entered or destroyed, kinda stupid since I have an Rocket Launcher. I felt really alone in the game, few animals and people. I can't pick up anything and throw it. And whats with the healing action lol, they try to make healing realistic, yet enemies get 10 bullets to die! lol.

    About the wildlife, I'm not asking for national geographic, but how about some birds, lions, rhinos around the place, and some crocs in the water. (The sharks in Crysis gave some good laughs) Who wouldn't jump in and wrestle some crocs before you shut the game down for the night!? :eek:

    Maybe I'll try again someday after some patches and stuff get worked in, but honestly, i doubt it. But to everyone that likes FC2, Rock On, and to everyone that didn't like it, you now have a $50 cup coaster. :cool:
     
  35. Ennea

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    I'm not sure where the 10 bullets to kill someone thing is coming from either. This just sounds like you're missing because people die easily in 5 shots in infamous. When I head shot people they die instantly. What guns are you using? If it really took that many shots to kill someone, infamous difficulty would be impossible because you'd just run out of ammo all the time.

    I'm not trying to convert anyone over, this is obvious enough since I'm not begging for anyone to pick the game back up again. If you don't want to play that's your decision, but get your facts straight. No need to mislead people who haven't even played yet.
     
  36. brainer

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    hmm, for how many seconds you can run at full speed when Carrying an RPG,AK47 and a Mac, with thier ammo before getting tired? i guess no more than 4 secs, and thats what Farcry 2 Presents, i think the game is tooo real to be a game.

    EDIT: and i almost forgot Emike.. did you hear about something called Medicine? you can just press H to heal from malaria when you dont have pills,

    and for the screenshots about Crysis VS farcry2 you have posted.. if you went to some rain forest and check the lighting there, you can see its more Farcry-like than Crysis-like, i think that the HDR in crysis is way over kill. and as of Crysis had its tweaks to increase and decrease the level of stuff, i'm pretty sure that FC2 will have that aswell, then you can Enjoy the yellow colour all over your screen
     
  37. Ennea

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    Actually, I can definitely run longer than 4 seconds. I'll time for sure tomorrow.
     
  38. brainer

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    From where you are getting an RPG?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-7

    the RPG-7 is about 7kg , add for the ammo and the other stuff, thats 11KG, assuming that somehow you are gonna catch Malaria, i dont think you can run longer than 4secs with these conditions.
     
  39. maksin01

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    When I say someone is not hardcore enough for FC2, I mean someone isn't good enough for FC2, ie. someone doesn't had enough FPS skill IMO to handle the harsh or difficult or unforgiving gameplay of FC2, hence the dislike of the game.

    I'm not saying anyone here have bad FPS skill (if you think I did then sorry I don't mean it), all I'm trying to say is when I read the comments of those who dislike FC2, it just felt like to me that the main reason is because the game is too unforgiving... :rolleyes:

    At the moment I'm playing on the "hardcore" difficulty (above "normal" but lower than the "infamous" difficulty). The game doesn't feel too hard for me except in a few intense main missions half way through the game. But then again if the game is easy or not challenging I probably wouldn't like it as much. ;)
     
  40. Ripfire

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    Its not the difficulty or challenge, I just generally don't like the game. ie Textures, colors, mechanics, jeep, AI, story, and everything else mentioned in this thread. I guess it comes down to expecting something totally different when I was buying it.

    Although, out of all my gripes, I did enjoy the explosions. :D
     
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    Far Cry 2 is more realistic than Crysis. I have played Crysis too much actually. Far Cry 2 holds it own. Graphics wise it is not far away from Crysis at all. Textures bland? Try the highest settings instead.

    Considering how large the maps are the graphics is awesome. Crysis wouldn´t stand a chance and would have to lower the graphics way down to be able to handle the same large maps.

    I only need one to two shots to kill the enemies. Head shots kills them instantly. The healing animations is pretty cool to me and bloody as hell. Nah play the game more, and I mean I am only at 3% so far and have so much fun with the game and will have so for a long time.

    Fallout 3 on the other hand is a dissapointment.
     
  42. brainer

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    the game looks without boundaries, Crysis can look a bit closed with the sea, and some barriers caused be mountains.
     
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    I meant in the game of course. Running is about 10 seconds if you constantly run.
     
  44. Selenium

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    Something that actually does annoy me quite a bit about Far Cry 2 is that sometimes I can't seem to "scout" the guard posts. I mean, I'll kill all the guards, and walk all around the post looking for ammo and health caches ad nauseum, but never trigger whatever's necessary for me to "scout" it. Usually when this happens I just give up and move on.

    Also, something else that just happened, I reached level 3 rep, and the game said I had now unlocked new weapons in the weapon shop, but when I go to one absolutely nothing new whatsoever is available. Is there something I'm missing?
     
  45. Ennea

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    It might mean you're able to accept new mission from the Weapons Dealer, which will unlock new weapons. Currently I've done all his missions so I'm limited. That would be my guess.
     
  46. brainer

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    for the scouting part, try entering your map by pressing 5, then right click to use the scope like thing, then just keep searching the place till the colour is green, then you have it scouted :D
     
  47. wordtothawise

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    I just thought I'd add my two cents, I can understand the original posters frustration. I too am annoyed when I purchase a game and I don't like it, especially when all the reviews said it was good.

    I am specifically thinking of spore (boring) and Crysis Warhead (Ridiculously poor performance, under 30fps at all times !!!! on 1280 x 720!!! on medium settings!! + average gameplay)

    I really like Farcry 2 it runs great at 1920 x 1200 on high (35-60fps)

    I guess it just comes down to whether you like the open world gameplay, I like it, it's like a rpg and I really enjoy all of the combat. I don't mind the respawning enemies or the patrols they just make it more exciting. I think having a powerful rig also makes it more fun cos the shadows are great and I love the lighting.

    I'd just like to add my opinion on Crysis and WH, I have tried to play these games on 4 diff computers one with sli 8800gt's and one with sli 8800mgtx's. It has woeful performance (under 30fps) at low resolutions. These games have awful performance and do not look good on these settings. Look anywhere on the net and powerful rigs cannot run these games, Far Cry 2 looks waaay better cos its playable at higher res and with higher graphics settings with a higher framerate.

    ps. I have the same comp as magnus
     
  48. brainer

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    ok, i'm on 50% with the game, and ive got to say, The game is now Very Deep. also, i havent Imagines this game will be that HUGE! i wont spoil it for the guys who havent reached over 50% but you will be surprised how HUGE the game will look after 50%
     
  49. Ennea

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    Haha, I'm actually at 50% too. I do all the side missions first though before main missions.
     
  50. Magnus72

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    He he only 8% here so far, need to play the game even more. Struggling now between Fallout 3 and Far Cry 2. Hard to play two games at once, both suffer from not being finished by me. But hey I will have very long nights ahead of me with great gameplay, possibly even months :)
     
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