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    Uninstalling FarCry 2 *Rant*

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Ripfire, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    im like 88% done with the game, and im happy i gave it a second chance, the game is awesome and is very very fun when getting new weapons, snipers are awesome, especially the third miltary one you unlock, i forgot the name, maybe the .50 caliber sniper. One question though, the pipe bombs, all they do is land and make green smoke? shouldnt they explode when hitting the ground?
     
  2. brainer

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    Pipe Bombs = Motar? or they are different?
     
  3. HaloGod2007

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    yeah sorry, i meant Motar, anyways, i just shoot green smoke, no bomb following it
     
  4. brainer

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    Mine works fine, i can take out whole outposts with it. not sure whats wrong with yours, maybe it has different types of ammo?
     
  5. HaloGod2007

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    weird mine isnt working lol, u just shoot it once right? i shoot and it comes down, green puff of smoke, and nothing

    btw brainer, did u really get ur ram timings on ur laptop to 5-4-4- (5)?
     
  6. brainer

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    i guess so :D , i suffered alot to make it stable and working :D
     
  7. HaloGod2007

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    nice lmao, those timings are sick for notebook ram
     
  8. brainer

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    yeah , i guess so, well.. there isnt a huge performance increase with most of the games, but some get some tremendous FPS increases (IE:Bioshock)
     
  9. Selenium

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    Dude, same here. As such, the mortar is not in my inventory. 92% completion!

    Also, gotta say, I freakin' love that scoped grenade launcher. That thing is bad ***. I just inadvertently took out my assassination target in an encampment from like 200 meters away as softened it up with that thing before my main assault.
     
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    nade launcher is nice, but i need my sniper to live lol. Anyways i just finsihed the game, many different endings to it im assuming
     
  11. maksin01

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    The green smoke is only useful for adjusting the shooting distance. Once you see the green smoke lands on your target, click R to switch ammo to the explosive ones. ;) I never use motar coz I can't really aim well with it and finds it too troublesome to use.

    I'm just using the AR-16 + the silenced pistol (for doing undetectable headshots) + the Carl G rocket launcher I picked up now... Works well for me. :D
     
  12. Selenium

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    I never would have figured that out, haha.
     
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    me either, they should atleast tell u that lol
     
  14. Ennea

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    Rocket Launchers are soooo ftw.
     
  15. billiam

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    Well, I finally got to 50%. I would say the main missions definitely picked up right before and after the switch. In fact, I think the 1st mission with your new friend is the best so far.

    Other thoughts:

    +/- AI is still uneven. The procedures they use are great, sweeping and flanking last known positions. AI is of questionably excellent ability and very robust; I'll let this go for now. But this psychic link nonsense needs to be broken and put to bed. Enough of this already. Get creative, make it more difficult another way. Also, AI vehicles must be balanced to player vehicle. I mean come on, seriously.

    - Story. So far, I'm not invested in what little story there is. Hopefully it gets better (it has been recently), but there should be a good opening and closing at the absolute minimum.

    + Gameplay. I have no major beef with the gameplay. It's a fps and it plays well. Stealth is not well done and quite hard to use, but when it works, it's pretty awesome. Difficulty is reasonable and at least you can change in-game. The malaria angle, while it would have been nice to flesh it out a bit more, is an interesting addition. I will say the Ubi Montreal approach to fps movement is evident, that is having cement around your ankles. But at least they're consistent right?!

    - Limitations. Map needs to be expanded or cut down realistically. I should not be reaching invisible walls. Either open it up fully, or add more legit boundaries.

    +/- Environment. Well, graphically this is very impressive. It looks and plays nicely. They need to fix night-time lighting though, it's pretty terrible. Otherwise, good job. Sound is also very good. I have disabled the music, and the ambient sound is terrific. I recommend you try it. Now for the bad. Where are other people? They need to add NPCs to the towns, at least. They should add NPCs throughout, maybe to small villages or even walking between towns. Animals??? Apparently Ubisoft will add more in their first patch so that's welcome. And militias - what is up with this? Checkpoint respawns rightly need to be cut down to every 12 hours at a minimum. The unique areas, due to having 12-16 AI, should respawn every 24 hours. I should have an ability to not be shot at and run down upon approaching every individual. At the very least, the player should be able to barter for passage - diamonds, ammo, guns, something else. What about the opening sequence? The game clearly tells you "Hey there's a checkpoint let's go through it" but then when you start it becomes "Hey there's a checkpoint you're dead."

    Overall, I am enjoying this and don't have any game-breaking complaints. I think several things could have been improved to make a truly outstanding game. I will hold out hope for the modding community to improve these issues.

    For anyone wondering, I haven't run into any bugs yet. No crashes/freezes either.
     
  16. eazy_e

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    well put.

    great post.

    yea the game has wicked performance for the visuals, Even on all low it looks fantastic and plays extremely well, no config for crysis can be made to replicate the performance in farcry 2.

    only complaint I have is, well nothing..runs great.looks great..its big..ai isnt retarded and the respawning makes every area a action area more like cod4, and when its raining around 8 am, while running through a jungle it looks pretty ****ing sick, and the physics are eceptional, nice seeing the trees sway and grass flying everywhere aftere a explosion, and the fire which i thought would absolutely kill performance like in crysis, actually didnt have a very big performance impact, this is the kinda game that requires the player to create enjoyment much like crysis, however it has less options for fun..aka no cloaking speed ect, but then agin neither does hl 2 or cod4 two of my favorite games

    another thing that is on my mind.

    Why does half life 2 all episodes look so **** nice even after all these years and compared to other games. I get like 100-200 fps with halflife 2, and it looks better than say fallout 3 but fallout 3 gives like 15-30 fps???? are game developers de evolving or is valve just that talented?

    textures in halflife two are higher rez, shaders are more detailed, hdr is great sky looks fantastic and the backdrop is even more realistic then say crysis (when the trees turn into sprites) I wonder if valve is going to put crysis to shame graphically in the future given their talent in programming??
     
  17. I♥RAM

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    I don't know but did you open up Half Life 2: Episode 2? The graphics are SMOOTH! I have everything set to as maximum as it can get with full AF and AA and I still get 90-110FPS! The game is truly amazing in every aspect. Makes Crysis looks like a hot mess, everything is HL2:E2 is so clean and well built. The water is beautiful, the reflections are so full of light and the motion blur is so realistic. Combined with bloom lighting checked, I like the graphics better than Crysis. Plus the good story just makes you love the game even more. Doesn't compare to Crysis at all if you ask me, as much as people might flame me for that.

    I can't imagine how amazing HL2:E3 will be :eek:!
     
  18. brainer

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    and thats why we are all waiting for left 4 dead.. arent we? :D
     
  19. I♥RAM

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    The maker of Left 4 Dead is Valve?! Omg I must get it!

    [/fanboi]

    I hate horror games though...maybe Valve will pull off a good story.
     
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    Ok, i have completed the game, 1 word.. AMAZING!

    the story turned out to be more deep and different..
     
  21. gls5000

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    I agree with some of these points but they don't kill the game for me. On the whole I absolutely love the game, but I think not everybody gets the immersion factor. The realistic camera movement while running or getting in/out of vehicles and so on, is great, the lack of HUD is refreshing and again immersive, because we don't actually have HUDs in real life, do we.

    I'm a bit undecided about all the travelling, I don't mind it really, it makes you think strategically about finding quick, safe routes. On the second map, you can get pretty much anywhere by boat.

    The points I don't really agree with above:

    - Same ten colours throughout the game >>> Er... that's actually quite generous, considering there are actually only seven general colours that exist, and you can't mean every shade of any colour because that would be ridiculous as even my old Atari ST used 16 colours. So I'll guess you're complaining about the general browns and greens prevalent throughout the game. The colouring seems perfectly realistic to me. If that means lots of shades of only a few colours then so be it. Perhaps you would be better suited to Super Mario Galaxy.

    - Blur during sprint/Malaria >>> I hardly notice this, and with Malaria, just hit H once in a while, no big deal.

    - Nothing on screen >>> Again this is the immersion factor. I personally find it quite refreshing.

    As you say, the monocular is rubbish. You can't see a bloody thing in that tiny circle. I actually use the sniper scopes.

    Some of my own minor annoyances:

    - Having every vehicle on the road trying to roadkill me. It's not realistic and it's not fun. I would like to be able to roam the countryside freely without having to hide behind every tree and rock to avoid drivers who take a strange delight in running over complete strangers on sight. Some funny driver AI though: if you fire a mortar at a vehicle, they actually do a three-point turn and come back at you; er, right, if somebody fired a mortar at my vehicle I would put my foot down and get the hell out of there, not turn around and make myself a bigger target for the next shot.

    - The lack of help on how to use anything, e.g. mortars.

    - The useless silenced weapons, which need more than a full magazine to kill one person, by which time the would-be victim has roused all his mates.

    - The selectively destructable landscape. I can vaporise thatched roofs but the bales of hay remain in pristine condition under mortar fire.

    - Only way to see the time of day is by going to bed.

    - Lack of agility. Your character can't even walk over tree roots and can't climb up small rocks; I feel like my character is a sumo wrestler.

    Needless to say, I love everything else about the game :) . The day/night cycles, the gorgeous scenery, the free environment, the atmosphere, etc.
     
  22. Ennea

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    To be fair, silent weapons aren't supposed to do massive damage. They're more accurate with their respective ranges so getting a head shot is much easier. You can also see the time of day while saving.
     
  23. rot112

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    Im done with this game as well. Played it on very high and i still think its awful. Yuck what a ugly game. Who ever said this was a Contender to crysis is greatly mistakened, Crysis Warhead looks tons better and runs the same on my set up. Ah well to those of you who like it, 50$ well spent. =-)
     
  24. brainer

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    not sure, no offence but maybe your setup sucks, cause Farcry 2 runs way better than Crysis, maybe your just a fanboy of Crysis, Oh right! i can see that from your sig.. i wonder what will you do when you get a new computer than Can run it maxed 1k FPS, maybe worship the game? -.-
     
  25. Selenium

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    I just don't get how someone could think it's an "ugly" game...

    I mean, really. :confused:
     
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    One thing to add: Far Cry 2 has one of the most horrible, anticlimactic endings ever.
     
  27. emike09

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    Perception. I loved bush, some of you hate bush. I hate farcry 2, some of you love it. brainer, would you come to the conclusion already that your opinion is not the only one that matters?
     
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    ;>.> not much of a fan of the game, especially the multiplayer. Since COD: WAW beta came out I haven't touched Far cry.
     
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    I've had a lot of people on this thread basically say i'm stupid for not liking the game, or that my reasons for not liking it are unacceptable, which in it self is unacceptable. "I didn't like it" ... (IMO).. you do, so go on with your life, lol. The same 5 people keep posting defending this game, like Ubisoft is holding a gun to their head. Geez, get over it.

    I'm on to bigger and better things, <3 fallout 3, game of the year IMO, please read that "In my opinion" before another argument breaks out.

    Because it's ugly, personally I like more colors than brown.

    But maybe you like brown, and thats ok... thats what Emike is talking about.

    **To everyone that hates this game, and feels ripped off for buying it, try Fallout 3, it relieved some of my pain for paying for FC2.

    **To everyone that loves FC2, rock on, and replay it to your hearts desire.

    Peace :cool:
     
  30. I♥RAM

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    Bioshock was pretty colorfully cool :D

    Are there any screenshots in this thread? I wanna see how boring the game truly looks.
     
  31. emike09

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    I posted some a while back, kinda a comparison between Crysis. Different lighting, but the point is well put across:

    EVERYTHING MAXED, INCLUDING 8x AA:

    Canopy and trees:
    [​IMG]

    Water:
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Explosions and Fire:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    In Vehicle:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  32. I♥RAM

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    Oh yeah I remember that, the colors are ... natural =/. Isn't Africa a bit more colorful than that?
     
  33. Rorschach

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    >.> Emike I thought they where supposed to be playable comparison photos. Your crysis pictures are all under 20 fps, 4/5 of them are under 15fps.
     
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    For me Crysis takes the cake in the graphics department. Use CCC and youll be playing the game as smooth as Far Cry2. Pc gaming is about modding the living hell outta games. So well just have to see what kind of mod the community comes out with for Far Cry 2 so that it can compare with Crysis.
     
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    The crysis screens are at 1680x1050 8xAA, which I have not seen a GTX 280 get over 40fps with. I run Crysis at 1440x900 0xAA Very High and average just barely under 30fps with an overclock. which is very playable for me. I wanted the visuals from both Far Cry 2 and Crysis Warhead to be maxed out. 0xAA looks just as good as 8xAA when comparing visual quality, just a few more jaggies.
     
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    Sorry I just don't see the point in posting pictures to compare graphics in games when the quality settings in the pictures aren't playable. If 1440x900 is what you play and you say it looks the same then thats what you should be posting.
     
  37. emike09

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    Resolution has little to do with overall visual quality. 1680x1050 gives me a 25fps average. Still playable, but not where I want it to be. Even with the resolutions down of far cry and crysis, the photos are still going to look the same. Just smaller.
     
  38. eazy_e

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    In response to I*RAM

    yea dude, lol

    half life 2 episode 2 suprised me, it looks balanced graphically. it has a finished look, every texture in sight seemed to hold the same resolution and detail, I thought that the game would look ugly as hell after playing crysis for so long. but it really does look good, but its the amazing framerates I get that make it an even better deal. I think crysis is ****ty when it comes to textures but it makes up for it with the lightning and other unique perks. overall id say half life 2 episode 2 impressed me more than crysis because i was not expecting 50 fps all maxed, regardless the game looks fantasic.

    lmao reading the posts in this thread. *** forcing people to like farcry 2??? I tink its ****, how do u like that :p...and if you think the game is great and im wrong, then i think your ****..lol.. just My humble opinion..

    and the nbr reviewer guy has a point..lol 8 fps in one photo?? lol kinda like ultimas comparsions :p but the lightning is better right :p

    funny place to be, I was in a ****ing bad mood, but after reading some of the **** in here it actually made me laugh.

    .lol...*** guys its a game not someones wife


    edit. maybe to avoid arguements in here we as in I should use metaphors or euphemisms

    :p

    farcry2= eazy es fictitious gf

    I think my gf has a great face(shaders), but her personality blows(story line). I think shes great and all....but why cant she have bigger boobs like jays girl friend(crysis)..I love my girl but i think she needs to workout(mods) or else shes gots ta go..lol

    talk like that then u could at least smirk and avoid arguements and get the point across(dont use bracketts like me)
     
  39. brainer

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    as people could tweak Crysis, i'm sure they will soon tweak Farcry.. Wont they? -.-
     
  40. Ennea

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    Exactly. No way in hell is any normal person playing Crysis on those settings. Why don't you compare with more playable FPS screen shots. And no, Africa is not the rainbow. The colors are fitting.
     
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    i just love your comments.. lol
     
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    Ok I got FC2 2 days ago and Ive played it for about 4-5 hrs and I have to say its a HUGE disappointment for me. I was a big fan of the original and Im one of those people who enjoyed FC more than HL2.

    Firstly, how the HELL is FC2 related to the original other than the fact that they are both FPSes with good graphics and maybe the Jackal looks a tiny bit like Jack Carver if you squint and turn your head sideways ? I think this is probably the only game which has NOTHING in common to its original.

    FC2 is the only game that feels like a BURDEN to play for me. Seriously it feels like a chore.

    Lets start with the graphics. They are good, Objects. etc are well designed, player models and animations are sometimes wierd, but overall its good, not Crysis good but still good. The only problem I have with the graphics is the colour palette they have used. Ive been to a couple of countries in Africa and I must say, its a bit more colourful than the game. Everything is just to brown/grey/dusty green. Real life does not lok like this. It just makes the game look way dull and not in a good way like 'noir' game like Max Payne does.

    The AI is OK, not to bad not too good.
    I dont know about anyone else but I have NEVER played a game in which people want to MURDER me this badly. Seriously, it hurts my feelings. Why is everyone shooting at me? ALL THE TIME. If by chance Im in the middle of nowhere with noone around, Jeeps full of angry mofos will appear shooting out of nowhere and try to run me over, bushes and trees will transform into enraged dudes with guns and extra ammo. PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE FOR 5 GOD**** MINUTES !!!

    Sprinting and Malaria give you hazy vision. NO they do not. Sprinting leaves you out of breath but with perfect vision (unless you need glasses and they fell off while you were running). Malaria is more or less like a high fever. I could see when I got malaria once, my eyes just felt tired and like they were burning a bit.

    Vehicles : Ooooh wow !! You get in just like you would in real life!! This is not a good gameplay mechanic. I dont think its exciting watching your character hop around the jeep like a monkey in a cage to switch positions. I personally dont have the time to wait while my character wastes 30 seconds of my life practicing his 4x4 Parkour.

    That reminds me, whats the point of choosing a character anyway ?
    Why do so many of the things your ingame friends do or have you do waste so much time? How do they know that youve been severely wounded that they just pop up from nowhere and drag you for somewhere for like 5 minutes before you can resume playing ?

    Which factions do the angry people in the wilderness belong to ? What difference do the factions make at all in the game other than for story purposes?

    Next up, we have the map/journal and objectives. One of the things that irritated me the most. The whole system is SO inconvenient. Please dont tel me they wanted to make it realistic. In real life paper maps dont have moving arrows, etc. GAmes have a HUD for a reason, to make it easier to keep track of things and make it convenient to play. In a free roaming game, the map is VERY important and they screwed it up.

    As others mentioned. It is harrowing to have to travel for 10-15 mins for a 2 minute mission. It is also limiting because you cannot get there on foot because of the way the environment is designed and everyting is so far away. Even in vehicles, you have to stick to roads and cannot take shortcuts because a leaf is blocking your way. You must go through the instantly respawning checkpoints to allow angry people to shoot at you.

    I was once shooting at a jeep with a mounted gun for ages. It just sat there smoking and the barren ground 15 feet away caught fire ?? Excellent.

    I just dont know what else to say, this is seriously a game I do not enjoy playing for some reason. As I said earlier, it is the only game that makes me feel like its a burden to load up and complete. It is seriously a failure as a sequel to FC. The only good things are the graphics and TINY install size (4 GB ? wow) plus optimisation. The shooting/weapon mechanics are not too bad either.

    I must say, Crysis especially Warhead were MUCH more enjoyable. Im not talking about graphics. It is just more streamlined with tighter gameplay and mechanics. Only the alien ship levels were sucky for me. Warhead was a blast through and through, a really enjoyable FPS for me after quite a while.

    A similar free roaming shooter like STALKER was also much better .

    Dont know what else to say. Feel free to argue with my opinion. I also accept that I may have exaggerated slightly, but this is a rant after all.
     
  43. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    If you say so... it was a waste of your bandwidth wasnt it?
     
  44. Selenium

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    I'm going to have to agree with them. It kind of nullifies your opinion when you're making your case using settings that YOU CANNOT PLAY AT.

    And I also have to agree that the colors of the landscape are fairly represented...but then again, I've actually been to Africa(Djibouti).

    If the game had been more colorful the SAME people would have complained that it didn't accurately represent the African landscape... :rolleyes:
     
  45. Ennea

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    There you have it, folks. Someone who has actually been to Africa. This ends that particular discussion.
     
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    Yeah, that's right on the money :D

    I think what your saying in response to what emike is trying to say is irrelevant. emike was trying to compare both FC2 and Crysis on their highest settings, regardless of playability, so that you can see the graphical, and only graphical, difference between the two. Yes, most people won't be able to play Crysis on those settings, but that doesn't matter. The FPS you would get in FC2 is more than Crysis, but that is not what those screenshots were trying to show.
     
  47. brainer

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    i thought that games aRE MEANT to be played, not made to take screenshots.
     
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    For the last time, both were running 8x AA. IF I turn AA off in Crysis, it looks just as good, and the framerates are very playable. And like the flying shoe said, I'm only comparing graphics, not playability. If I cared about playability, I would have turned AA off in Crysis.
     
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    ehh if so, i have to say, Stalker clear sky pwns both.. lol
     
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    Crysis makes for great screenshots. It is the all-time greatest slideshow I have ever played.
     
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