You have to have a card with the .10 BIOS sticker to flash it to the gtx 280m, but that doesn't affect the stability of the higher clocks.
I think the HP .10 BIOS is more stable (for HP cards).
Lenovo cards can be overvolted and overclocked a lot more...
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
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moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate
The lenovo cards don't happen to be 55nm by any chance?
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well fellas, seems like I'll be joining the fight with you guys. 8800M GTX died on my NP9262. Ordered a 3700M with .10 BIOS. I honestly wouldn't mind just running in Quadro mode but the Geforce drivers give better gaming performance and that's what I'm after.
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moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate
People say this a lot, but I've tried running my GPU with a 280m driver and I got the same performance.
BTW you don't have to flash the bios to just run it with the 280m driver.
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hmm...wait a min, if you can run the 280M driver with it, then what is the goal of flashing to a 280M?
The reason I was planning it is because I read some old post saying quadro drivers force FSAA. If I can somehow disable that and run geforce drivers....and run 280M clocks, I don't see what is to gain from flashing. Am I missing something? -
niffcreature ex computer dyke
It probably depends on the code of the game, I bet some games will run faster with quadro drivers (openGL for example).
There really is no good reason to flash it to a 280m, the BIOS is newer and it makes a fool of nvidia thats about it.
If you have the .10 BIOS sticker then just go for it, it will work fine. Just mod the extra voltages to 1.05v with nibitor.
Oh and no, the lenovo cards are not 55nm, I wish...
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Sorry to bring back a slightly older thread but it sounds like you guys know whats up. I purchased two MXM 2.1 GTX280m's for my lap top and I have two issues, SLI is disabled and the fans wont come on. I NiBitor I can even slect the fans becasue they are grayed out. Any of you have a Bios for me to try?
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
A. mxm 2.1 280m and 3700m can't do SLI.
Um.
Didn't you notice they don't have an SLI connector?
B. Yes, try the latest HP 3700m vBIOS here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/att...owners-lounge-bios-62.92.6e.00.10-fx3700m.zip
There is a software hack to use SLI without the cable, but the performance isn't as good. I don't know how to do it but I think you should find out and give it a try... -
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He did already test his 9800m without the sli cable:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...area-51-m17x-dual-gtx280m-project-thread.html -
Yes sir, physically the SLI foot isnt there, although you can see the spot where it goes. Im just betting that the card can do SLI seeing how it is the same card as the 9800 GTX SLI and GTX 280m 3.0 MXM. My thinking is that all I need is a BIOs flash to activate it. Wouldnt the 9800 GTX SLI BIOS work? -
OK guys Im back from a night of testing and right now I just want to get the cards woring correctly before I try to get SLI up and running. For some reason no matter what program I use my fans wont come on ant all for my GPUs. Do one of you have a stock GTX280m 2.1 MXM bios you can post so that I can re-flash my cards. Thanks gents.
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moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate
Stock 280m vbios on page one:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...rds/510622-wanted-gtx-280m-mxm-2-1-vbios.html -
Thanks bud thats what I thought, I got a little confused, thought for a minute that BIOS were the ones for the 3700. You guys experienced artifacts because you were trying to go from 3700 to gtx280 correct?
Hopefully this will restore my fans, and I can continue to work on getting SLI up and running. -
Actually what if I flash the 9800GTX bios to the card? That card is SLI and it should restore the function correct?
But would it limmit my shaders to 116 instead of 128? -
moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate
It wont limit the shaders.
I flashed a 9800m GTX vbios onto my 3700m, had all the shaders, though my temp sensor reported strange temps. Wasn't fully stable either.
You may have better luck.
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
No, that will NOT enable SLI. This is a physical problem! The only real fix is to solder the connector onto the 2 graphics boards.
Or some driver hack, I don't know if it exists.
You could try a gtx 260m vbios, it is working for me right now. I think the 3700m bios is a better idea to enable fans. The 9800m gtx one didnt really work for me -
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The thing I don't understand about that is the fact that he was able to get SLI working with his 9800m GTX without an SLI cable connected.
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
Yes. A lot of desktop cards like 8500 gt and 7300 can SLI without a cable.
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He said it in his other thread:
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Yes sir gentlemen, before I pulled the trigger on purchasing two GPU's that I knoew did not have a physical connection I wanted to see if my dual 9800m GT setup in SLI would run with out the SLI cable instaled. They did, just as the desk tops set up run a tiny bit worse with out cable mine did the same. At the most I saw a decrease in 5FPS in Star wars which relies heavily on SLI. The Visual SLI indicator still showed that SLI was active when the cable was DISCONECTED.
Therefore I concluded that I could do the same with the non pysicaly equiped SLI GTX280m MXM 2.1. I just didnt count on SLI being diabled. I just need a way in which to re-activate the feature becuase the card before it the 9800GTX m and the GTX280 M MXM 3.0 both have SLI enabled in their BIOS so some how some way I should be able to restore SLI in the BIOS of my two GTX280m's MXM 2.1. -
katalin_2003 NBR Spectre Super Moderator
Cards older than the 5 series can run in SLi without a cable but they run at the bandwith of the mobo's PCIe.
You'll need the BIOS to support the cards ID
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
Are you saying that the Alienware BIOS needs to support it?
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For those of you just reading this thread here is an update. I was able to flash the 9800gtx MXM 2.1 BIOS to my dual GTX280m MXM 2.1 non SLI enabled GPU. Upon instalation of the drivers, SLI returned!!!! GPU shows that all 128 shaders are running. Benchmarks to be completed once I get the fans back on.
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could you please upload the 98M GTX vbios used along with the previous 280M one? thanks a lot
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Hey guys, can you tell me if this ever worked for you? I got a 3700M for my M9750, and it works flawlessly. Its like a brand new machine. However, I want the 280M BIOS on it because I think it will offer better gaming performace. I'm getting 25FPS in Crysis 2 at 1440x900, and I really want like 35-40FPS. First I wanted to backup the BIOS on it. (nvlash.exe -b 3700m.rom) It told me there was no Nividia display hardware. I then tried to flash the card (nvflash.exe -5 -6 280M.rom)and it told me it needed a .rom or .nvr file, which is what the file is. Any suggestion?
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Hey anyone out here can help me out and send me the stock vbios for a gtx 460m? I bought it for my sager np8690 and it says engineering release and will not work with any nvidia drivers. Thanks.
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
Got it from GFSI eh? Nope but I have an MSI vBIOS for that card. Thing is it has to be overvolted because the card is underclocked. Hope thats OK
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Hey niffcreature, were you able to find that bios?
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
Oh you just reminded me why I was looking for my USB to SATA interface.
Let me check now while this printer driver is installing. *makes no attempt to stay on topic* -
Also sent you an email with some questions. Tell me if you got it (sorry to post on this thread, but I have no idea how to PM here).
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
You can PM now with your fifth post.
Here is the vBIOS, it is already overvolted. I got your email but I'm posting it here so others can access it if need be.
Attached Files:
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ok what is all this about? The "you need a .10 card to make it work"? Why doesn't a .5 card work?
I am thinking of buying an Nvidia Quadro 3700m for the Alienware Area-51 m15x, the 2009 version. Looked all over, found one with a .05 BIOS. Why can't that one work with my computer? -
and also, I plan on buying this card. Will it work if it is just put in the mxm slot off the bat, or will I have to flash the VBios?
IF I HAVE TO FLASH IT, can someone please supply me with the correct VBios version, which is on the quadro I am buying, 62.92.51.00.05
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Anybody know something about it? I need to know this information.
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is it possible to have bios for fx3600 .05 unbrand? for alienware m15x-r1?
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My understanding after reading the entire thread is:
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niffcreature ex computer dyke
They can't be flashed to 280m. They can be flashed to 9800m GTX or maybe 9800m GT I think.
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niffcreature,
Sorry to bring this post back up, but I can't find any other way to get a hold of you.
I read a few posts you put up about the FX 3700m and the different bios versions.
I was looking at replacing the 8800gtx card in my clevo d901c with this as my card is on it's way out.
The only cards I can find are the .05 bios lenovo cards. If I run this stock how it comes I believe it will outperform my 8800m gtx, correct?
Since I can't find any decently priced 280m gtx 2.1 mxm cards, I was potentially thinking of flashing the 3700m with a 9800gt bios and trying to overclock, but is that even possible as I've seen people say the .05 bios cards cannot be flash to a nvidia bios?
Also, would you have any 280m 2.1 cards for sale?
Thanks
Wanted: GTX 280m MXM 2.1 vbios
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by niffcreature, Aug 17, 2010.