Will ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M play...

18-20FPS in a shooter? Major no-no. And I would LOVE to see the guys screenshots who is running Oblivion on his computer. I run it on mine, medium 1024xsomecrazywidescreenthing, and get 40+ in city, 25-30 in crazy wooded areas. Oblivion is still one of the most demanding games, along with Crysis, CoD4, and FSX.

 

Well I have found that a framerate of 20 in any game is acceptable. I actually never notice any stuttering at anything over 15. I certainly wasn't saying that this performance was great. I was just replying to the topic and the people who said it was impossible to run the game on this chipset at anything but lowest settings. Yes, sometimes it dips to 15 fps, but at other times it rises to over 40. I think that that performance at that high a resolution is pretty impressive for this setup and certainly proves that yes, the game can be run with this chipset. I also have the option in my BIOS to allocate another 128 megs of system RAM to the video which would give me 256 and maybe increase performance. I haven't done that because I did it with World of Warcraft and it actually seemed to slow it down. I attributed that to the fact that my system RAM is only PC2700 and probably slower than the dedicated VRAM on the board. As far as overclocking goes---never did it, never will.

I'll post my autoexec.cfg so people can see what I did.

seta r_mode "-1"
seta r_aspectratio "2"
seta r_customHeight "800"
seta r_customWidth "1280"
seta r_fullscreen "1"
seta image_usePrecompressedTextures "1"
seta image_useCompression "1"
seta image_downSizeLimit "512"
seta image_ignoreHighQuality "1"
seta image_downSizeBumpLimit "512"
seta image_downSizeSpecularLimit "128"
seta image_downSizeBump "1"
seta image_downSizeSpecular "1"
seta image_downSize "1"
seta image_forceDownSize "0"
seta image_roundDown "1"
seta image_lodbias "0"
seta image_preload "1"
seta r_useCachedDynamicModels "1"
seta r_skipBump "0"
seta r_skipPostProcess "0"
seta r_skipParticles "0"
seta r_skipSpecular "0"
seta r_skipNewAmbient "1"
seta r_multiSamples "0"
seta r_shadows "0"
seta r_useOptimizedShadows "1"
seta r_useTurboShadow "1"
seta g_projectilelights "1"
seta g_skipParticles "0"
seta g_bloodEffects "1"
seta g_decals "0"
seta g_showBrass "0"
seta g_muzzleFlash "1"
seta g_doublevision "0"
seta g_showPlayerShadow "0"
seta image_anisotropy "1"
seta image_filter "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST
bind "F10" "toggle com_showFPS"
seta image_useCache "1"
seta image_cacheMegs "256"
seta image_cacheMinK "3072"
seta r_vertexBufferMegs "64"
seta r_useInfiniteFarZ "1"
seta r_useStateCaching "1"
seta r_useIndexBuffers "0"
seta r_useVertexBuffers "1"
seta r_useTwoSidedStencil "1"
seta r_useShadowProjectedCull "1"
seta r_useShadowCulling "1"
seta com_allowConsole "1"

 

Is that for Oblivion? Could you post some screens? I mean, I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just saying that it would be cool to see some screens of this.

And changing your Vram in your Bios won't do anything. It will automatically allocate however much it needs.

 

No the settings are for Doom 3--I haven't tried Oblivion yet even on my PC
Also, the BIOS setting will increase my available VRAM. The laptop has 128megs of dedicated VRAM and the BIOS has an option to also use another 128 megs of system memory for a total of 256.

 

I don't believe that's how it works. I believe that is just allocating more system RAM to VRAM, thus not improving performance.

 

Okay i'm posting a link to a full size screenshot and the shot downsized to fit here.

http://home.earthlink.net/~dch48/images/Doom.jpg



Doom3 at 1280X800 on an HP Pavilion 5215
2gb PC2700 RAM
AMD Turion 64 ML-34 single core 1.8ghz
ATI Radeon Xpress200M with 128 megs dedicated VRAM and Omega 6.8 Catalyst drivers

 

Your staring strait at a door in that screenie, it's not a very good pic to determine your actual FPS. There's practically nothing on screen needing to be rendered.

 

Well it was only meant to show the detail and fps possible at full res with a low end gfx system. The actual fps ranges from 15 to 40 depending on the area and enemies present so the figure shown is in the middle. I only get a 3DMark05 rating of 727 at defaults so I think it's doing pretty good in the game. I want to test out my PC with a X700pro PCI-E card and see how much better it does.

A question I have is that I have OpenGL 2.0 installed but Doom3 says it's using 1.4. Is that what it's written for?

 

With the radeon x700, my old laptop (just ordered a new one, 8600m gt) and a mere 256mb of ram could run Oblivion on 800x600, windowed and i ran fine (unless inside a city...). I mean, hell it would have been much better with enough ram, but come on. I'd say the X200 could run doom 3 with 2 gig ram. Anyone against that reasoning? I know the X700 is roughly 4 times faster than the X200, but still. 256 ram compared to 2 gigs. You decide.

 

yeah if I run doom3 in a 800X600 window, I can get really good fps, but I don't like playing in a window. But of course RAM makes a difference.

 

I didn't think the X200 has 128M of dedicated ram. I thought it was allocated.

 

some have dedicated,some use shared only---depends on the Mobo model. My PC came with only shared but with an open Pci-e 16x slot, laptop has dedicated

 

well any1 if their pretty sure if it can play WoW please reply thanx!!!

 

anyone tried Left 4 Dead with the 200m yet? Downloading now on friends laptop. I already "promised" him that it'll work. Somebody tell me I'm not a liar.

What's this I hear about clockgen and 200m?

 

it will not run

 

yes i will play left for dead but if it lags it might be ur soundcard... it happened to my friends presario v5000 , it has a 200m, the game ran horrible (1-2 fps), i noticed the sound was very glitch so i disabled the soundcard and walla the game ran a stable 25fps until hundreds of zombies got on the screen (a panic event)
the 200m will play any game that requires sm2.0 full support for dx9 not dx9.0c.
dont count on playing any type of opengl game they lagggggggg. runescape hd uses opengl and omg it laggs... (the prcocessor isnt the prob it got rs hd runnin nicely on my amd sempron 3100+ machine and my friends laptop is a sempron 3300+)

 

it can play wow but with low settings and a 800x600 res

 

Why is this thread so long, when such a simple quesiton has already been answered, it has accumulated over 61 pags... ?

 

wow, three years worth of old thread bumping. its a record

 

Bumping this thread - I have an interesting situation: although the intel x3100 videochip is supposed to be faster than ati x200m I found that Command and Conquer KAne's Wrath runs smoothly on ati in 1024x768 (everything on lowest on a 1.86 GHz Core Duo, 2G ram) and runs at lower fps on intel in 800x600 (everything on lowest on a 1.4 Core Duo, 2G ram); Could it be the optimisation that ati allows in its driver? Or the 25% in processor speed makes the difference?

 

C&C is more of a CPU intensive game, but some laptops have gimped x3100s in them that make them slower then a regular x200