Will ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M play...

you will probable have to manualy install the drivers, the download would be the "motherboard with ati grapihcs" download off the ati website.

If you need help to install them, just PM me, and I'll help you out.

 

I did not find any drivers at the ATI site for the Xpress 200m

 

You just need to get any of there drivers, the motherboard ones have the Express 200 drivers in them, so I used them, but It doesn't really make any difference really. But any of them you download, you probably have to manualy install

 

Guys trust me, the ATI Radeon Xpress 200m (128MB dedicated memory) is the best IGP ot there and it is really cost effective, so if your not a super hardcore gamer (like me) and are looking for a decent card that will play some of the games you like to play when you are bored or depressed (like me) then this is the best card you can getfor th price!

ok guys i know this is an off topic question, but is it normal for the DVD Writer Combo drive on my laptop to be a little noisy when installing stuff and vibrate a little?

 

Yeah, it's normal for it to be like that. But let's keep this related to the X200M.

And I agree that it's a great budget GPU, certainly better than any other integrated GPU by a long shot.

Chaz

 

I got half life 2 yesterday, the game is great, just not on my laptop. It was ok at first, but now its just ****, I get 5 - 15 FPS. When I first installed it. I was getting about 20 pretty constantly, but it's still far off what ever one else seems to get.

 

I got my new nx6125 on friday and have been trying out some games over the weekend. Here are my results:

3dmark03: 1038
C&C Generals: 1400x1050, medium detail 30-35 fps
Need for Speed Most Wanted: 800x600, low detail, visual treatment high 15-20 fps (yet fairly playable)
FarCry: 800x600, low detail, low anti-aliasing 15-35 fps, avg 27
Call of Duty 2: 800x600, dx7, 2x AA, texture detail low 10 fps

I've set the video memory to 64 m because it doesn't really seem to hurt the framerate. I've only got 512 and it was doing a lot of memory swapping which did kill performance so I'd rather have a little more system memory. I'm gonna upgrade the memory to 1024 or 1280 as soon as I get my next paycheck . Also I will swap the hard drive for the 5k4 hitachi in my toshiba. It may not really boost performance but it sure as hell will reduce the loading times.

Edit: Just tried A64 Tweaker to set the mem bus to 200 and it seems to be doing a good job. 3dmark03 went up to 1199, I'll be re-testing the games too.

 

I just want to confirm.. im lookin at the V5015 from futureshop.. its $300 off right now at 1099$... it comes with 128MB Shared ATI Radeon Xpress 200M...

even thou it says shared.. from reading thru this thread.. im quite positive its dedicated .. 128 ram.. and it can take an extra 128 ram from the memory.. for a total of 256 ram....

the only game I play right now is WoW... so.. im sure this will be fine.. im going away for 1 year to work.. so bringing a laptop would be ideal.. I like many.. are having a hard time deciding what to get.. just because of the GPU... I think im making this a harder decision then it has to be!..

Dodder

Ps my desktop has a 9550 .. 256 ram.. so I know it wont be on par.. but for WoW it should be fine

 

Hi i am looking to buy a Toshiba Satellite A100 as its the best one i can afford and according to its basic description has the latest radeon xpress200M with 128 DDR2.. Can someone tell me if this model does in fact have the IGP with 128mb integrated? I have the feeling that it has at least 32/64mb integrated and the rest shared at least...as its the latest budget toshiba and has 533mhz DDR2 ram+5200rpm memory...not bad for €635!

 

The Toshiba Satellite A100 has all shared memory - the main memory is DDR2, that's where they get the "128MB DDR2" from.

Chaz

 

Also i heard people saying that a laptop running with a Celeron M cpu will not be great for gaming as performance will suffer.. But that couldnt be more wrong. The celeron D is a piece of **** but the celeron M is in a totally different league as it is basicly the exact same chip as the pentium M (Donathan core), with half the level2 cache disabled (1mb instead of 2mb) and 400mhz fsb provided instead of 533mhz. oh and speedstep facility disabled. It has 90% the raw performance power of the Pentium M-(Centrino setup) and the only real difference is decreased battery life. When intel were releasing it, they considered not calling it a celeron at all but decided to go with the name as people are used to seeing 'Celeron' as the trusted budget buy since they were released in 1998. In a test with a celeron M 1.4/ pentium M 1.5/ P4 2.8 the celeron M was 90% the speed of the pentium M even though it was 100mhz slower! and about 35% faster than the P4 2.8! Not too shabby. The only clear drawback is that battery life once again..which was 15-20% less than the pentium M as the celeron is always running at max as it lacks speedstep technology.. But i wouldnt mind that at all when im saving €200-300!
So all i can say is dont underestimate the celeron M!

 

mmm i was afraid of that.. are you absolutaly sure?? What about the Satellite M50? Also if the memory in the A100 is all shared what will the performance be like towards the dedicated one? about 25-30% less..?

 

Yeah, the dedicated X200M is about 1/3 faster than the shared one.

It will not be great for your gaming performance, but the GPU is what matters most. It wouldn't make a huge difference even if you had a top-of-the-line Athlon 64 paried to an X200M, 3D performance is still going to be subpar.

You're right - the Celeron M is basically an older Pentium M with a halved L2 and no power management. It isn't the bad performer many make it out to be.

Chaz

 

Glad you agreed with me about the celeron M.. i hear so many of my friends just saying its c rap as they just assume that when they hear the name celeron..
Could you tell me what laptop you would go for the Satellite M50 or the A100?
They are almost exactly the same price..I know the M50 has the true bright screen but i like the A100 for some reason.. The build quality on the A100 seems to be not as good tho, but has faster ram and better network abilities with its dual antenna ( heard the M50 has a **** internal wireless setup). Also another thing putting me off the M50 is the fact that iv heard that for some strange reason, it wont play games nearly half as good as the other Toshiba's with similar components!..L20 etc.. I really need to hear other peoples opinions on these two laptops coz cant afford anything else!

 

Fishy, we have a forum dedicated to notebook recommendations - the What Should I Buy forum:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16

If you create a new thread in there, we can give you recommendations based on your answers to the FAQ:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=29271
It's just a small questionare that helps us help you choose a notebook.

Chaz

 

I have one of those M50's that wont play games very well, it's just a very slow memory setup, and there is nothing you can do about it

 

Hey. Would you guys say that the x200m would be comparable to my Geforce 4200ti 64mb..? All i need is a gpu equivalent to that as i have it in my Desktop. Iv heard that the x200 should be as good as older cards such as the Geforce 3/4 but HOW CLOSE are they in terms of performance?? Is it just the x200m 128 dedicated that would be good enough??
Also iv heard that the new Toshiba Satellite A100 only has the shared memory version of the x200 but how can that be when the Satellite M40 (A100 is its replacement) had a dedicated x300 64mb gpu and now they put an inferior card into the replacement A100?? If thats the case i think i would go for the M40 even though its an older model just to have the graphics advantage.. Opinions??

 

I'd probably say that the X200M might be a bit behind. The X200M is equivalent in performance to a GeForce 4 MX 440, their benchmarks for 3DMark2001 are virtually the same. Try to find a comparison between the GeForce 4 Ti and the MX, then you'll have a better comparison.

Chaz

 

With my Geforce 4200 I get 1350 3DMarks2003 points
With my HP ze2366 X200M I get 1260 3DMarks2003 points

I'd say X200M has the same raw power of a Geforce 4200 plus a little extra because it has DirectX 9 integrity.
The Geforce 4200 only has DirectX 7

 

Actually the GeForce 4 Ti is DirectX 8.1, the MX is DirectX 7 because it lacks pixel shaders.

Chaz

 

Hi guys!

well i just downloaded a utility called "Everest" and was able to look information on my computer. i have a question: why is the Xpress200M on my Hp DV5000V series laptop downclocked to 301MHz? is it not suppose to be 350 Mhz according to the ATI website? why is it downclocked? how can i fix it?

oh, and i have another question: where can i get updated drivers for my Xpress 200M? i have been looking everywhere and i cant find any!

thankls,

Mark Dello

 

I'll make it easy this time, download the omega drivers, simple as that

They might not be offical, but there close enough, and you don't need to do any thing special to install them...

 

and where the [edited by mod] do i get the Omfega Drivers From?
but what about the X2oom downclocking by hp?

 

dello, do not curse on the forums please.

Might want to check the forums. . .
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=46896

Changing the core speed of the X200M isn't going to do much for you.

 

sorry for the curse, but still. What do you mean that changing the core speed of the X200M is not going to do anything for me?

is the 200M that stupid?

 

how would the 200M compare to the Mobility Radeon 9700 or maybe the X300 with 64Mb Shared memory?

 

There's a guide for that, which shows the X200M relative to other cards performance:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=45650

The Core speed doesn't do a whole lot for performance. A huge portion of your performance comes from the memory, and since the X200M is limited there already, increasing the core clock won't do much.

Chaz

 

but my 200m has 128MB dedicated Memory. is that not seperate memory? can you please explain all this confusion i am having on the 200m. i mean it plays games perfectly, but o i dont know!

 

If your games are running fine, then there's no reason to worry about the 'underclocking' by HP. Like I said, it won't make much of a difference.

Chaz

 

I've increased the X200M core in my HP from 300 to 400Mhz without any problems. I used power strip. But in didn't make a single bit of difference over 300Mhz, absolutely nothing noticable.

The best way to increase the 3D Graphic performance is using the A64-Tweaker to increase the memory bus from 333 to 400DDR. That brings nearly %30 increase in overall power. Of course you have to have an AMD64 Turion or Sempron for this.

@dello
All your questions have all been talked in this thread. I know its over 20 pages, but you could still make an effort.

 

thank you very very much for your help chaz man

thanks to you too dadash! but how do i use the A64-Tweaker ? will it hurt my precious lappie?

 

It could do, when the Lappie is working fine then leave it. Never touch a running system

 

what do you mean?????

can it hurt the lappie?

 

can you please be a little more clear?

 

If your Notebook is running ok, then don't change anything on it

 

but still, if i overclock the memory, will it hurt the computer?

oh, and why overclock the memory, dosnt the X200M use 128MB of dedicated memory?

oh yes, im really sorry if im annoying, but i want answers to this new detective story in my life that is my Laptop with a 200M!

where did my other posts go?

 

Please keep your posts condensed. It's not very helpful if you post one after another. I merged your posts, that's where they went.

 

hi guys,
i am haveing a lot of trouble finding drivers for my ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, please help me in finding them. i do not want omega drivers, i need the original catalyst drivers. will the drivers at ati's home site work with the 200M IGP?

thanks,

Mark Dello

 

is this good performance for the X200M?:
FarCry V1.3
Graphics: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
Memory Mode: 128 Dedicated+ 128 Shared= 256MB
Game Settings:
All On high except for Lighting and Shadows.
Resolution: 1280x800 widescreen.
FPS: 17~28 AVG: 25


is that good performance for the 200M?

 

25FPS average is good for the X200M, given that it's not a strong performer to begin with. Turn the options down to medium and check your frames.

I would also turn down the resolution. With the X200M, you should really be staying at or under XGA (1024x768) for best performance.

Chaz

 

I get 35+ fps with the setting on medium and the resolution on 1024x7something
. but in my opinion the 200M is a pretty good IGP (better than my 9550) the only drawback is that it only has 2 pipelines. it should have 4! that would make it soar!

is there any way that i can unlock the 2 locked pipelines???

 

I was told a couple days ago that the Toshiba Satellite A100 has only the fully shared memory version of the Ati x200 but i went into my local computer shop to have a good look at it and found out by looking at through the system menu's that it does indeed have 64mb of dedicated memory! It shares the rest with the local memory! That is absolutaly right and i have to say im delighted. It has ****py plane DDR ram integrated and it uses 64mb of the DDR2 system memory to make up the 128mb total. I double checked that by looking to see how much of the system memory was being used and it said 960...Total RAM was 1024..-64 for the GPU=960 RAM indicated..Beautiful

 

That's impossible to do. It's a good idea, though.

Fishy, great info. 64MB dedicated + 64MB shared is a lot better than just 128MB shared.

Chaz

 

Cool. Iv decided to go for the Toshiba A100 neways and should be buying it next week. I really like the screen and the build quality is pretty good..Nice and solid. The x200 in it should do me fine for the games i have and since i plan to only keep it until the end of the summer.

Chazman what do you think of the spec?..
Celeron M 1.6
512mb DDR2
Ati x200 64mb dedicated+64Shared
80Gb 5200rpm HD
DVD Super Multi Drive
Integrated Wireless
XP Pro..
All for €850! Not bad i think..

 

I think its a good buy, though I'd prefer a Turion to a Celeron But we can't have everything.

 

dont underestimate the celeronM! dadash! my brother has a CeleronM 1.4GHz and it is really fast (for a celeron any way) the celeron M is a completely different thing than the horriable excuse for a processor that is the CeleronD!
but wasnt this thread for ATI Radeon X200M?

 

I am wondering if the ATI Xpress 200M dedicated video card will support HL1 based games(CS 1.6, DOD, ect..) and Anarchy-Online.
The laptop I was looking @ has:

AMD Turion ML-32
512mb DDR
Xpress 200M 64mb or 128mb(can't remember, but it is dedicated)
60gb 5400rpm HD
WinXP home

I plan on upgrading the ram to 1gb for better performance, but the only thing that worries me is the video there is alot of stuff to render in AO.

The specs for Anarchy-Online are..

1Ghz CPU
384mb RAM
64mb video
DX8.1 compatible

thats about it.. I don't know if anyone's tried the game on it. It is currently free if anyone wants to try it.

 

We already have a thread on the X200M, yours has been merged with it because it asks the same questions.

 

HI
I have a Compaq Presario 2254 au notebook pc
Specs: Amd Turion ML-32 1.8ghz, 512 MB ram, ATI Xpress 200m shared
,60 GB.

Can anyone please tell me whether i can run the following games atleast at the minimum resolutions:
1. FEAR
2. CALL OF DUTY 2
3. QUAKE IV
4. NFS MOST WANTED
5. BATTLEFIELD 2
6. COUNTERSTRIKE

 

from my experience with the 200M, it should be able to run these games fine even with a high resolution. 200M rocks!
my 200M can play FarCry with 1024x7(something) resolution and High settings with out problems. but you might not be able to enjoy that because you 200M appears to have only shared memory (my 200m has 128 dedicated+128 hypermemory)