increase shader pipelines of 8800m GTS

crysis is unplayable at 15fps.....and when 2-3fps from 20, its getting very choppy at that [point..

and ill tell you what you can say......

STOP LIEING!

 

Love the way underage troll logic works, makes the claim for a certain resolution then tries to brazen it out saying that resolution doesn't matter, then switches to saying how the fps reading on the corner of the screen is the only thing that matters before changing his tune again and says fps readings mean nothing and that the Beatsiz subjective interpretation of smooth gameplay suffices to back up the original claims stated above.

Blaming the camera for poor footage is another Beatsiz trademark, not the first time equipment has "failed" him when his bluff has been called making gameplay performance claims.

 

I know on my 7900GTX (desktop card), I was able to get between 15-40fps with all high (except for shadows and I think shaders) and some very high settings @ 1280x1024 resolution.

That was with XP. Vista... don't even get me started.

 

Beatsiz,

You claimed X
You provided incorrect proof for X, infact contrary proof to X that rules out the possibility of statement X.
You tried to back that proof
We caught you out
End of story, please don't post something else trying to back your claims to statement X

I suggest we leave this thread now, the original topic of getting the pipelines increased is not possible by the end user unless they know a good deal of engineering. As I dont think the card has locked pipelines which rules out any possibility via software.

 

Even with the engineering knowledge and appropriate tools, isn't an operation to physically upgrade the shaders on a single card only possible in the factory itself? Mobile cards with their tiny parts are probably only modified using specialised laser tools and machine equipment which most enthusiasts don't own or operate.

 

Even further reason why this thread should be left alone.

The OP also hasn't commented after I implied that he just wanted better performance in crysis (god I hate it when people do crazy things for that game)

 

so guys any other suggestion on how i can improve performance....this Beatsiz claims he gets 20+ fps at 1400x900...well with my system...T8300 2.4Ghz, 4gb Ram, 8800m GTS i dont even get 20 fps consitently at all high at 1024x768.....drops to like 12-13 in intense firefights....and even at 800x600 it drops to like 16 in the tornado fight and the last stage on the carrier....and the most i get even when just taking a walk at the beach i get 30-32 fps...
Olus the benchmark in DX9 at all high 1024x768 records an average fps of 21.46 in the supid island flyby

PLZ help i have tried like 8 different drivers and i m getting mad cuz the only reason i got this huge 20 inch machine was cuz it had 8800M GTS which was supposed to be loads better than a 8600m GT dell xps M1530, but so far while playing crysis it hasn't appeared so...although i admit other games like Bioshock run at a comfy 50+ fps at maximum..
PS: haven;t tried COD4 yet

 

lol the reason i got this idea was from my old geforce 6200...i remember that back in 2004 i didn't have much cash so i bought the cheapest PCI express card i culd find...i immidiately started regretting my purchase so i started digging around how i culd improve it...that time i was crazy abt Far Cry, Doom3 and Half life..well surpirse surpirise i found i culd change it into a 6600GT just by using Riva TUner and increasing the pipelines from 4 to 8...and the performance of the card just jumped up!!!!

 

1). Dont listen to Beatsiz

2). You bought this huge laptop (dont even know if it qualifies as one due to 20" screen) just to get 8800GTS and play Crysis....WHY?

Crysis is quite demanding but your performance is subpar compared to other GTS owners (I think, as I don't have one).

/ Do you have unnecessary bloat, services, apps running in the background?

/ Make sure your running in highperformance if running Vista and AC plugged in for both XP and Vista

/ You should be using either 174.16 , 174.53 or 174.74 drivers for best performance.

/ Even if you think DirectX is updated, download the web updater for directx from Microsoft and update your DX.

/ Dont run in windowed mode

/ Perform a disk defrag

 

To start off, Beatsiz is a compulsive liar when discussing gameplay performance on notebooks so OP can feel free to ignore any and all posts from said user about game performance on his 8800GTS. At any rate, OP's troubles with performance at 1024 standard resolution could be attributed to an unpatched game and/or old graphics drivers.

Secondly the 6200 series and software/BIOS "tricking" of a card to think it's something else is not applicable for the 8800GTS since narsnail unsuccessfully tried to trick his 8800GTS into a GTX using a BIOS flash method. It's also possible that the GTS and GTX are physically different and that the extra shaders present on the GTX are either not in the GTS, present but physically disabled or the GTS is a GTX which failed to pass quality control and had the extra shaders removed.

 

guys blackbird above said that T8300, 2.4 GHZ Core 2 DUo is weak proceesor...is it so? i thought that a 2.4 Ghz core 2 Duo is good enough as the nowadays the graphics card bottlenecks the CPU...Shuld i have gotten a more powerful processor???

Secondly does running in windowed mode affects performanc??? cuz i do run in windowed mode..

 

thanks for the suggestions but i have already done all this..except i do run in windowed mode but does this also affects performance?

 

Don't run in windowed mode and see if performance improves, you've said you did everything blackbird suggested so why not do the one thing that's still outstanding on the list?

Windowed mode does have an impact on performance, so try playing the game full-screen at non-native resolution and see if it helps.

 

Definitely, it can cause priority issues and other problems..run full screen and hopefully performance will be better. Also disable vsync and make sure game is patched up to latest version.

 

Thanks Harley and blackbird...of course i m gonna try what he suggested...i just was asking for opinions cuz b4 i also thought that windowed mode affected performance until my friend managed to talk me into believing it is not so

 

you have a 20" screen..why not use all of it...lol

 

hey and also plz tell me abt the CPU is it really weak? its a Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz T8300?

 

thanks for the help guys much appreciated

 

Prior to the Penryn line the best possible processor for the 7 series of CPUs was a T7700 which has the same speed as the T8300, only now the 8300 I believe has a larger L2 cache size making it superior to the T7700.

Bottom line: I'd gladly swap processors with you if possible, I'd say the T8300 is at least mid-tier in the current notebook CPU hierarchy.

 

When did I even say the CPU is weak.... Its not.

Anyway, you try crysis again in fullscreen?

 

imho CRYSIS with 15fps+ seems fluid, im not the only one who thinks so

 

Now the claim goes from 20+fps in 1440 widescreen resolution to "fluid gameplay" at 15+ fps.

Blown enough of your trumpet yet? Go and play Crysis with your toy and quit spamming the forums about how you play Crysis. I'm sure you can do that since it's probably the only thing that motivates you.

 

Should I repeat this once more...
THERE
WAS
NO
1440*900
OPTION
IN
THE
BENCHMARK

Anyways... The only thing that I can say is that I played 4 hours of crysis all high 1440*900 yesterday and I personally didnt have any problems, maybe some hickups here and there and messed up physics (slo mo building colapse... must be the drivers)

And I will mention that I just kind of learned that when you play in windows the res. is lowered (-_-")
I did not directly know that... I heard that you have 3 pixels (RGB or Red Yellow Blue) in each pixel; so you can have windows but still have the same res... which is why I played in windows... but that still means 2-3 fps lower on 1440*900 because I just tried so...
anywho...


I am sure there may be some micro/nano soldering enthusiasts and some enthusiasts who know the whole GPU layout... together they could probably get a soldering job and voila, 8800M GTX

 

Nothing ever is your fault is it? And we're all supposed to believe the word of an underage troll with a track record of exaggeration and with little to no knowledge on how games run.

You've had your piece hijacking this thread bragging about your Crysis performance, why don't you follow your own advice and find some of these soldering enthusiasts so that our OP can follow up. If not your brain can rot slowly while you continue playing Crysis, this thread was never about how YOU could run Crysis until you couldn't resist bringing it up.

 

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1791 for better crysis benchmarks

also now your going back on personal preference instead of concrete evidence to what you claimed.

just stop and if you have nothing to contribute to the OPs topic/questions then refrain from posting here...perhaps go play crysis for 4 more hours

 

That is exactly the benchmark I use

Anyways... forget it... sheesh

 

Beatsiz obviously thinks 1280 and 1440 widescreen resolutions are exactly the same performance-wise, but trolls must have a divine right to earning de facto acceptance to all unverified claims.

 

yes its an update the acquire via experience

 

hey u were right the benchmark showed an increase of abt 2 fps it jumped to 25 fps....

BUT get this everyone...just now i did all the windows updates and restarted my computer and the FPS have jumped to 34.16 in the island flyby with DX9 1024x768 and all high!!!!!
what do u guys think? does windows updates have an effect??? cuz its been a prety dramatic increase of 9!!!! i haven't done anything else except to do the updates same graphics card drivers and all

 

hey one more question...the 6200 think was it just tricking the card into thinking or did it actually use to open up the pipelins? cuz i thought that it actually used to open up the pipelines?

 

Windows updates do have effects, especially in the case of vista. Here are 4 must have updates for Vista if your a gamer ( I dont think these show up in windows update)

No, I think they produced 6200 and the higher versions the same way and payed less attention to quality of pipelines and locked pipelines in 6200. If you were lucky you got a 6200 with working pipelines and using rivatuner to unlock them made your card into the higher model

 

Dude, stop asking that. You can`t convert the 8800M GTS into a GTX, perioed.
And Beatsiz, go crawl in a hole before I start reporting your full of BS posts.

 

guys another thing...How many time u get the benchmark to loop? i have found that doing jus 1 loop i get abt 9-10 fps less average fps than what i get when doing 3 loops...what do u guys do?

 

3-5 loops is enough. To get a good estimate.

 

Is it advisable to do the same thing for 3DMark06 ?

 

DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 28.10 Windowed after windows update 1 loop

DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 29.46 Maximised after windows update 1 loop

DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Last Average FPS: 25.32 Windowed before windows update 1 loop

DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High~~ Overall Average FPS: 34.985 3 loops after windows update

 

Perhaps.If you want to make an average of the 3, it`d be more acurate.
First time its starting to load all, second time it will run somewhat faster,third time a similar results, so maybe taking the lowest results is more acurate. Since you`re not starting a game, warming it up,then quit,then start again.
Umar, those are nice results. You get some 10-15 fps more than me at the same resolution. So the card is well worth it and has some power in it.

 

It was only the first batch of 6200, because they used underclocked 6600LE to do them (and the 6600LE being a 6600 with half the pipeline). The batch after got them removed.

It could be possible on the 8800M GTS but...is the cooling gonna support it?

 

i think the cooling is gonna be enough..Cuz with my sytem even after continuos 6 hours Crysis gaming the most my GPU got to is 67 C with 174.74 drivers.

 

but i think that it aint possible cuz the bios is locked and some people have said that they have cut thepipelines by lazer

 

Your laptop is huge that's why heat dissipation is better

Can we stop with the increasing pipelines already...its not going to work.

 

We have a saying here in my country : " both poor and demanding... "

 

i have stopped i was just explaiining to the guy whose post is abvoe the one of mine u quoted

 

hey guys if u use those better DX9 graphics mods which one do you use??? cuz i have found like 3-4 different ones...can u recommend me some of the better ones?

 

Could you PLEASE play some Crysis in 1440*900 and tell me how many FPS you get?

I sure if you get 34 FPS in1024*768 you will def. have 20+ in 1440*900
So I can prove my point that I do play 20+ FPS in 1440*900

 

Make your own thread if you want to show off your Crysis performance, you've done enough hijacking as it is.

Proof from Beatsiz on gaming performance is like pulling teeth using pliers without anaesthetic.

 

Rusty pliers?

 

Funny thread , though to the OP´s question I think it is physiqally impossible. I mean there isn´t even a 8800m GTX card for your laptop engineered in the first place.

 

Difference between 8800M GTS and GTx = 32 Shaders...

 

Yes but point is there is no 8800m GTX manufactured for this laptop right. So even if the specs are the same just differing on the shader processors, those shader processors is actually physical processors not anything you can unlock through a bios mod or through Rivatuner. It´s not like the old days where pipeline unlocking actually worked.

I mean that if there were an actual 8800m GTX for you guys it would have those 32 extra shader processors in hardware not software nor bios. Just my theory.

I work at a circuit company and with PCB´s, yes those who Nvidia has their PCB´s made by though we don´t make any Nvidia cards here, but the manufacturing is the same process. One PCB can look the same but still differ hardware wise, we can have 5 PCB´s that look the same but still have minor difference hardware wise or huge difference hardware wise. It is probably the same with the 8800m GTS the hardware is different than the 8800m GTX.