Interesting, FPS limiters and 120hz screens are contrary gaming philosophies.
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if max-q is hardware only that means it can't affect existing cards.
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IFF they did not already have the technology as part of the architecture then sure it would not affect existing cards, which is most likely NOT the case, if it is a PASCAL feature.
I would like something like this if it actually assessed and tuned to your specific machine instead of fps limit and pre-configured profiles.....
I have undervolted/ underclocked my 1070 in ASUS GL502VS and can still max out all my games with doom at 130-150 FPS and Wow running 45-60 in Dal 90-150 in Dungeons and Raids (View distance is 7). This is also how I manage to keep both my CPU and GPU sub 75C.
I imagine that "Whisper mode" will drop the GPU Clock Speed to 1100~ (I can and have this in my custom undervolt/underclock profile) and that will range to around 1300 mhz to maintain 0.85 or lower Voltage.hmscott likes this. -
so long as it don't affect my 1070...i did just mod the vbios after all
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. I have heard mixed descriptions, the marketing has been somewhat "ambiguous".
Some have stated that it requires a Bios update to the graphics card, some say it is simply driver level, etc.
All I know is, I have been continuously tweaking this card since purchase and it runs significantly better IMHO.
Hell, not that you should "Use recommended Settings" with Geforce experience, but after my tweaks if I select to "optimize" any game, I am way above the refresh rate of my G-Sync so I keep undervolting the card and the performance loss is minimal (I have to clearly state that this is my observation. I don't want to incite some "know-it-all" to question the validity of my opinion)
So minimal that I am having to literally max out all settings in most all games to cause strain to below 60 FPS (which I have managed with Witcher, but that was with everything on in areas where the desktop counterpart struggles), DSR 4x, Smoothness 33-55. Really liking Pascal.hmscott likes this. -
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Nvidia inspector profile's had Quiet mode aka Whisper mode. I tried it, basically GPU is passive until 75C. Quickly reverted back to Noise mode.
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I assume that 0x00000000 means "off"? I prefer the loud fans anyway, at least i know there's air flowing through it.
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Yes it is. 0xFF means prefer passive cooling even under high temps, don't know who prefers this.
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I fail to see what's wrong with this. I take fan noise as a priority (reason I bought the EVOC). Everyone has different needs. As long as you can disable it what's the problem?
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So is Whisper Mode enable-able in GFE for us? I don't have it installed and I'm on an older driver.
If GFE doesn't work but NVPI works it'd be interesting to note.DukeCLR, Vasudev and Vistar Shook like this. -
On SLI I'm doubtful, I reckon you're using nvidia inspector and nvidia inspector profile all updated to their revisions or versions? If so, enable Quiet Mode under Other. Additionally, I used SILK smoothness setting it to 0x00000001. The guide said, it will even out distorted images and smoothing it to a degree w/o performance loss.
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I'm on 378.92, I don't think the whisper mode or anything is present yet
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Did you find Quiet Mode settings?
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I don't have it
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I thought GFE was a major component of the whole WhisperMode eco-system for managing thermal load? It adjusts game performance settings and manages a FPS limiter.
Although enabling WhisperMode with Nvidia Inspector might get the fan / temp profile enabled, the GFE needs to be installed to manage the games and load to keep the temps down, right?
NVIDIA Inspector 1.9.7.8
NVIDIA Profile Inspector 2.1.3.9
GeForce Experience changelog for 3.7.0 introduces Whisper Mode for 10-series Notebooks.
GFE 3.7.0.68.zip <= Beta version with WhisperMode
GFE 3.7.0.81.exe <= current version from Nvidia, WhisperMode status unknown
GFE Latest Download <= generic download area for GFE, WhisperMode status unknown
If you find a version newer than 3.7.0.68 with WhisperMode, please post it's link and your experience with it.
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ThatOldGuy Notebook Virtuoso
Whisper mode has been around since 1983
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Yup...you are old
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As much as I like bitdefender, it has caused more problems than I care for. I recently switched to Avira free to see how well it works, so far so good. I agree though ShadowPlay is one thing I think Nvidia did very well.
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These models are out of date. The correct downloads are:
NVIDIA Inspector v1.9.7.8 (comes with outdated version of Nvidia profile inspector)
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i wish they updated it as it feels like it's so outdated.
I seem to have a knack for picking crappy AVs LOL
Firstly Avast prevented Forza Horizon 3 from launching when the game was released.
Bitdefender prevented Shadowplay from working.
I don't know of any good ones that i can use without buying (ie. free editions) without being a pain in the butt.Last edited: Jul 8, 2017 -
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@D2 Ultima: I had nvidia inspector that can auto update nvidia profile inspector to latest version, I can't find it now. Try NV 382.53, its performance is good so far in my testing. Don't know about SLI scaling.
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Has anyone gotten WhisperMode to work on their Pascal laptop?
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Doesn't Nvidia need to release whisper mode profiles for games for it to work? I've been waiting for official support through geforce experience because of that.hmscott likes this.
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Here they say Nvidia has more than 400 gaming profiles with WhisperMode... maybe it's time to check it out
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-Max-Q-WhisperMode-Information-Initial-Benchmarks.230426.0.html
" The optional WhisperMode
WhisperMode (Source: Nvidia)
The WhisperMode, which is independent of the hardware, takes a different approach. It can be activated via GeForce Experience in addition to Max-Q or as a standalone feature. WhisperMode is supposed to be available for all Pascal graphics cards and currently works with more than 400 gaming profiles created by Nvidia. The feature automatically chooses graphics presets optimized for the GPU, and limit the frame rate to 40 (e.g. The Witcher 3) or 60 frames per second ( Overwatch), respectively. Users can always change Nvidia's presets manually.
Nvidia acknowledges that different genres or titles, respectively, have different requirements in terms of FPS for an enjoyable gaming experience. The manufacturer wants to use this technology to improve the efficiency even further and reduce the system noise considerably. We think this feature makes the most sense if the laptop is equipped with a G-Sync display."DukeCLR, Robbo99999, ShotOfB12 and 1 other person like this. -
Robbo99999 Notebook Prophet
Ah, I see! Whisper Mode is not gimping the GPU per say, it's just lowering in-game detail settings to enable 60fps to be achieved using less GPU resources - as an end result the GPU wouldn't be pegged at 100% GPU load, instead it would fluctuate at lower levels (say 50-100% GPU load for argument's sake), while maintaining 60fps. That's not a bad thing, it's not gimping the hardware.hmscott likes this. -
It's the next obvious step after an FPS limiter, tune the game settings down to match the parameters of operation - noise in this case.
No clock, voltage, or other hardware tuning, all in the game software.DukeCLR, Vasudev, Spartan@HIDevolution and 1 other person like this. -
Nvidia crippled mode...activated.
Just bear in mind that some games doesn't label Anti-Aliasing correctly...like Nier Automata...you can set it to on/off but if you do some research its actually forced 4x MSAA or 8xMSAA which is unoptimized in the game engine causing even the most powerful rig to stutter in some areas of the game...bad port!Last edited: Jul 18, 2017 -
In the Nvidia game settings in GFE there's a way to change and lock in changes like that - turning it off in the game won't help as the GFE will continually apply it's settings over the game settings each time you refresh the Profiles, and other triggers cause it to notice the local change to the game settings and re-apply it's settings.
So change all the settings in the GFE profile, anything not listed there for change shouldn't be changed in the game settings, so those settings not listed in the GFE profile can be changed in the game settings.
Hopefully that fixes that for you
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Funny thing is I never install GFE in the first place...and the fix for Nier Automata's stuttering/lag issue is by simply turning off AA. xD
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We are in the "nVIDIA Whisper Mode" thread, and it needs GFE to function as described by Nvidia, so what "Nvidia crippled mode" are you talking about?
Where did you disable AA? In the game, or in the Nvidia 3D Applications Settings / Global Settings?
And, why are you talking about all of this here if it has nothing to do with "nVIDIA Whisper Mode" ?Vasudev likes this. -
Chill down bruh...it was meant to be a joke.
I disabled AA in-game.hmscott likes this. -
So the whole thread you started with me was a joke? Or just the part where I took you seriously?
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Honestly.
With horrible cooling in today's thin "gaming" laptops (I will refrain from brand-dropping) this is a good idea.
I have honestly, have set FPS limits in some (few) games, but if I was throttling hard, and reaching absurd temps, I would appreciate this little adaptation.
I know, I know, the downsides outweigh everything else, but on the other hand, it is only logical, this implementation is simply what people demand (this excludes us, hardcore gamers, OC's and etc.). The masses have spoken.
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I would think it would be more for the large noisy laptops with good but aggressive cooling, this would help set up a quiet mode for them.Vasudev likes this.
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well I certainly didn't expect a simple whispering thread to reach 9 pages in such a short time
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And... no one has installed it or tried it yet...
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Because nVIDIA hasn't updated their garbage drivers in almost a month. They are cooking us a nice surprise
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Yeah, it's looking like zippo out there since 6/29, no beta's either...maybe Nvidia decided to get it all working before releasing a driver this time?
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Did you get Whisper mode in latest driver?
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You'll need to check, the release notes don't say anything, and I can't find anyone online mentioning seeing WhisperMode or using WhisperMode other than the earlier Beta release.
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You can use Custom Whipser mode. Set Frame rate limit as per Gysnc monitor or your preference. Enable Quiet Mode and Quiet Mode app FPS to 0x001. For me it actually increased my GPU temps to 75C-80C on stock clocks under passive fan mode.hmscott likes this.
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So you don't see Whisper Mode controls working yet in the GFE panel? Do you have Experimental Features enabled - this guy doesn't - so not sure if it's needed.
Older controls with Experimental Features enabled.
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This is Custom Quiet mode I found in Nvidia inspector.hmscott likes this.
nVIDIA Whisper Mode
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 22, 2017.