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    nVidia Delivering Direct Laptop Driver Updates

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by kazzaz, Dec 18, 2008.

  1. st0nedpenguin

    st0nedpenguin Notebook Evangelist

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    Nvidia also make their desktop drivers, surprisingly. :x

    It's beginning to sound like your Windows install is screwy, I have no issues running Ntune on Vista64.
     
  2. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    i dont have any issues with ntune on vista x64 either.
     
  3. SCE_Sobek

    SCE_Sobek Notebook Evangelist

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    i only have issues with the nvidia monitor..other than that control panel and device settings work well
     
  4. 0.0

    0.0 Notebook Consultant

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    Here's some boring results from my 9200M GS

    HP CQ45
    GeoForce 9200M GS 256MB DDR2
    OC 700/1720/530

    FurMark run for 10 minutes
    Core Temperatures relative to ambient

    Code:
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            OS |            XP SP3           |          VHP 32 SP1         |
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        Driver | 6.14.11.7561 | 6.14.11.7928 | 7.15.11.7553 | 7.15.11.7928 |
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     Core Temp |    +47C      |    +48C      |     +44C     |    +45C      |
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       o3Marks |    8368      |    8131      |     8014     |     8112     |
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           WEI |     N/A      |     N/A      |   4.1/5.1    |   4.0/4.9    |
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    Doesn't seem to be any big differences for the 9200M GS, strange with the WEI though.
     
  5. Lum-X

    Lum-X Notebook Evangelist

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    The Mobile drivers are still BETA and they are the FIRST Mobile drivers from Nvidia. Lets hope that the next few releases will be pure made for mobile GPU's.

    I can guess that these Beta drivers are a mix between New mobile and Desktop Drivers.

    This is just the begging.
     
  6. kazzaz

    kazzaz Notebook Consultant

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  7. deathstick

    deathstick Notebook Evangelist

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    Most of the time, differences between drivers are placebo effect. I haven't noticed any performance difference between these and the 176.44 drivers I was using before. Computer functions normally, sleep works fine. I notice that Oblivion crashes to desktop less when fast travelling, so that's good.

    I find it odd that Laptopvideo2go's version is 84mb while the version available on Nvidia's site is 120+ mb. I went ahead and downloaded the Nvidia one as a precaution, and like I said, works fine.
     
  8. SCE_Sobek

    SCE_Sobek Notebook Evangelist

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    First of all, you are wrong. The differences between drivers are not a placebo effect, and this can be confirmed by a simple benchmark score.

    Second, the driver version from laptopvideo2go.com is the same as the nvidia driver. The only difference and the reason why the one from ltv2go is smaller is because they use a more effective zip (7zip) to compress the driver.

    Third, there are certain laptops 179.28 does not support hence why ltv2go provides the modded inf. For those laptops specifically, if your laptop is supported then theres no need to download the modded inf.

    Hope that clears up some misconceptions.
     
  9. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    I was under the impression that the files on lpv2go were smaller because they cut out things like the PhysX installer? Nvidia included that, as well as CUDA into their most current driver, and I don't remember either of those in any lpv2go release.
     
  10. scadsfkasfddsk

    scadsfkasfddsk Notebook Evangelist

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    They have had some where physx has been bundled in, especially the 180 series (non-dox).
     
  11. kazzaz

    kazzaz Notebook Consultant

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    so the nvidia drivers is as same as lpv2go !!!??
     
  12. Dox@LV2Go

    Dox@LV2Go Notebook Consultant

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    heres the reason why our files are smaller:

    nvidia files are compressed like this:

    all files are nv_disp. dl_

    Pieter expands them so they are nv_disp. dll

    Now when he compresses them in 7zip, it can be compressed at a much higher ratio than compressing them in .d_ etc.

    You can't just rename nv_disp.dl_ to nv_disp.dll, you have to "expand" it by command line so windows recognises it as .dll etc
     
  13. scadsfkasfddsk

    scadsfkasfddsk Notebook Evangelist

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    How clever...I think Nvidia needs to offer you guys a job...
     
  14. Dox@LV2Go

    Dox@LV2Go Notebook Consultant

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    And just to add why .d_ doesnt compress as well as .dll etc

    .d_ is already compressed expanding them to .dll uncompresses them.
    Then when you compress them using 7zip its much more higher compression.

    since .d_ is already compressed compressing it again doesnt allow better compression compared to compressing of a "raw" uncompressed file.

    If you compress a file then try to compress it again nothing is compressed - makes sense.

    And thats the reason you can't re-name .d_ to .dll since its compressed and magically re-naming it to .dll won't uncompress it.
     
  15. Jarinawer

    Jarinawer Notebook Geek

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    i prefer the laptopvideo2go becouse the nvidia drivers does NOT support my GPU :mad:
    i dont understand what are thinking these guys from nvidia! :confused:

    :mad:
     
  16. SCE_Sobek

    SCE_Sobek Notebook Evangelist

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    now that somone brought up phsx...it doesnt show up on my CP, but it does with other drivers..is it that nvidia didnt include phsx with this driver?

    btw, i got these from nvidia.com but am patiently waitng on dox to put his midas touch on'em =)
     
  17. Althernai

    Althernai Notebook Virtuoso

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    No, it should be there. They even have a bunch of demos for it in the download.
     
  18. deathstick

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    Um, yes they are placebo effect. Benchmarks are not true indicators of in-game performance. Even if they were, benchmarks show marginal improvements in performance. Take 0.o's benchmarks above us as an example. Vista's 179.28 drivers show an improvement of 98pts over the 175.53 drivers for a CUMULATIVE performance increase of 1.22% over all the revisions of drivers( so if you were getting 100fps before, you now get 101!) XP shows a 3% decrease. My conclusion? Marginal difference.

    In addition, some drivers (notably 180.84) are released to improve performance in specific games and others (like Dox's excellent drivers) aim to improve the visual quality and feel at the cost of max fps that generic quantitative benchmarks just don't capture and may even dock points for. If not for the sleep issues in 180.xx drivers, I would still be using Dox's drivers for their eye candy.

    Interesting. Didn't know that.
    LV2Go provides a great service that I've used numerous times. I never have nor ever will argue otherwise. My card was supported and I was unaware that the size difference was a result of better compression; thus my reason for choosing Nvidia's download over LV2Go

    Hope that clears up some other misconceptions.
     
  19. SCE_Sobek

    SCE_Sobek Notebook Evangelist

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    although you are partially right, the performance boost is not superv or anything.. sometimes it is, depends on the driver and hardware combo of the user. Plus some drivers might not increase overall peak FPS but they will raise average FPS and have much higher min FPS which makes a huge difference for some people.
     
  20. Wishmaker

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    This drivers are still beta...maybe the final will work on larger "audience".
     
  21. SCE_Sobek

    SCE_Sobek Notebook Evangelist

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    hmmm...thats weird?...i downloaded and installed 179.28 for vista 64 bit and I dont have a phsx settings in my cp..

    although i can acces the phsx cp through my start menu, i havent downloaded any demos yet..
     
  22. Wishmaker

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    Do you get BSOD on the NTUNE menu?
     
  23. SCE_Sobek

    SCE_Sobek Notebook Evangelist

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    no..i just have issues with the nvidia monitor..for some reason my mouse clicker doesnt go excatly over the options lol..i have to guess like 2 inches away from everry thing i want to click lol...its weird.
     
  24. Wishmaker

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    Interesting. As soon as I accept the license agreement in the NV Control panel to access NTUNE i get a BSOD with an NVIDIAx64 driver message.
     
  25. matmat07

    matmat07 Notebook Evangelist

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    On my side it now alows me to overclock (i'm at 675/1425/465)! I had to use 169.04 in the past. Here's the changes:
    before: stock 3511, OCed 4378
    Now: stock 3682, OCed 4518
     
  26. cyclist14

    cyclist14 Notebook Consultant

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    I've been using the drivers for about 2 weeks now, don't have 3dmark 2006 on this image and have been too lazy to install it but I have FRAPS and have seen somewhat higher frame rates in some games.
     
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