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    nVidia GTX 780M Benchmarks and Overblocks (vBios, Afterburner, eVGA etc)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by xjulzkx, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. viciouskayen

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    Is it more benificial to overclock the memory or the core? in terms of fps and/or 3dmark score?
     
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    In terms of FPS, even the highest overclock doesn't do much for you in games. You may see up to 5 FPS difference. It makes the most difference for benchmarking.
     
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    Does anyone know if the 780m modified vbios can get locked down like the 880m after driver crashes


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    Mines crashed a fair few times while I was finding it's limits on stock voltage and it hasn't locked itself yet *touch wood*
     
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    It's apparently only happening with the new drivers on the 880m


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    I suspect that the reason it says 2 cards is because of the build in gpu in the cpu.
    Take a look at NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4900MQ,Notebook P17SM
     
  7. Fr4G

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    Make and Model: Asus G750JH (non 3D)
    CPU: i7-4700HQ (1 core @ 3.6Ghz - 2 cores @ 3.5Ghz - 3 & 4 Cores @ 3.4Ghz)
    Ram: 3x4GB Samsung 798mhz (11-11-11-28-2T) Seems low?
    Driver Version 337.88
    Benchmark: http://i.imgur.com/4sv9NRz.png.
    GPU Core/MemoryMhz: 1050/6350 (Unlocked vBios - Tweaked with Asus GPU Tweak - Desktop edition)
    Peak GPU Temp: 75c (78c in bf4 TDM on Ultra 4x msaa, after an hour gameplay and thats in a 28c room,

    Standard cooling. The cpu is running so hot due to the hot room, but also i had my undervoltage settings off, normally i run at -79mv Dynamic cpu offset and Dynamic cache offsets and it stays below 72c

    Let me say im sooo satisfied with this computer. One thing about my score, i couldnt achieve higher than 6016 when my screen were oc'ed to 91hz, due to power limitations i believe. So this test is with the screen running 60hz
     
  8. mikemanpl

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    Guys, asking the same in P170SM owners section, but here it may be a little better:
    I own a P170SM with a 780M. After just 3dmark11 (with demos) it gets up to 92degrees Celsius. It is not even touched with OC and I assume that those temps are too high. I had 7970m before and it was like 75 degrees. Also someone with 780M in P150SM reports just 69 degrees after 3dmark11 so it is a collossal difference. I have done repasting like 3 times with Gelid Extreme. I found that gently pressing heatsink results in ~-5 degrees, also the radiator with ribs, by the fan, is like cold on the other side - it does not get equally warm like the CPU radiator.
    What do you think?
     
  9. TBoneSan

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    Sounds like your heatsink isn't screwed down tight enough.
     
  10. mikemanpl

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    Thought so too. It is screwed the hardest I could without messing up the screws. I even unscrew the whole gpu card and screwed it back. No result. My opinion is that the construction does not allow heatsink to a proper link with the core, but it is beyond capabilities just to repair it with the screws.
     
  11. be77solo

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    Check with others first regarding your type machine, but sounds like a few washers under the screws are needed if that's the problem.
     
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    I have the same problem. The Witcher 2 99% load on gpu 90 degrees. But when I put it upside down with opened backplate temperatures comes down to 80-82. Room temperature is 23 degrees.
    Clevo P170SM.
     
  13. mikemanpl

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    Hi guys after a while. I have sent my laptop to service and they replaced the GPU. I got it today and after a full test (with demos) in 3dmark11 it maxed out at 84 degrees. Maybe not the coolest of all, but at least acceptable. Will change the paste to gelid one more time and see what the results are.
     
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    You had a SERIOUS problem before lol. I suggest you use the vBIOS from techinferno's forums for the 780M; it ran mine a bit cooler. That being said, have you tried the test with max fans? Max fans should help greatly. The auto fans never spin up to max unless you're on a P570WM, so max fans will definitely make a difference in your cooling. Good luck!
     
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    Yea, I am aware that I could make fans work at max, but the noise is really disturbing. Right now I have repasted it with gelid and it stays at 82 degrees after a half an hour of te Valley benchmark. It is ok now.
     
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    Your cpu score in physics test is inadequate.The 4.3ghz overclock of your CPU is not real. Has the clock been true, you had 11.900p on Physick test in firestrike. If you shall increase scores on the CPU section of this 3DMark test, set all 4 cores equally.:hi2:
     
  18. jtravapd8578

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    Posted this in the wrong section before.. Got these results today after changing the overclock in the bios

    One of the top 3dmark (firestrike ) scores on futuremark!!!! Taking Mr. Foxes and a couple of your others posts into consideration and shut down some programs running in the backround, and updated to overclock 3 in bios. however changed the cores to 43, 43, 42, 42.

    scored a 13081 for firestrike !!!!!!

    here is the link

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4930MX,Alienware 01W2J2

    View attachment 116557 View attachment 116558

    What are you talking about? I don't even get what your saying, but if your suggesting that i photoshopped it or something , then click on the link i provided. Unless you think I am some how able to hack into the futuremark website and change everyones scores.
     
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    Your score is bogus my friend. It glitched on test 2. No way to get 959
    3DMark Score 13081
    Graphics Score 25461
    Physics Score 11069
    Combined Score 2991
    Graphics Test 1 58.74 fps
    Graphics Test 2 959.8 fps-GLITCHED SCORE
    Physics Test 35.14 fps
    Combined Test 13.91 fps

    Best to delete that score and try again
     
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    Then that I can understand. But someone telling me if i was gonna change one i needed to change them all, like i would even know how to go in and mess with the numbers to cheat and come out with a better score. lol.
     
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    Take it a little quiet:thumbsup:
     
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    The main score isn't as important as the GPU score. You're scoring higher than a stock 980m!
     
  23. TBoneSan

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    No one's saying you cheated. Just that for what ever reason one of your tests glitched out which obviously invalidates the overall score.
     
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    Hi

    I own one MSI 780M and I will flash it with an unlocked bios. I think the vbios will set 850mhz for the gpu clock but I want to know a recommended voltage to start to prove to raise to the 880M clocks or a little bit more.

    I don't want to have an extreme overclocking. If the 880M is 954 perhaps 980mhz and 1350mhz memory will be enough. I have seen in some posts that +75mv is enough to have more than 1000mhz gpu clock, then I supose that with +40mv-60mv I will get those frequencies.
     
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    You want to overclock to game or just to bench? a lot of us test hardware to the limit and see how far you can go. Unlocked vbios and voltage you can definitely get over 1000mhz core easily, but its not for the faint of heart. For gaming, I advise to stick to original vbios, and if you want to overclock, just use the +135mhz limit of stock vbios. You will gain a little performance from overclocking anyways, so it might be worth it only if you have a bit of trouble with a game/settings.

    At stcok vbios you can run at 954mhz core and, depending on your GPU, up to +500mhz memory (being conservative is better... don't go so high for your own good :D).
     
  26. Player2

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    Ok I read thread from start to finish almost. About 90%.
    I have alienware 17 780m modified vbios from jonksss and slv7 thanks. 4800mq stock no overclock.
    I have been playing around with overclocking and currently have card at +154 on core = 1004 mhz. Power temp target at 100%. +400 memory= 2900mhz. And + 37.5 mv offset.

    Mind you I have the 2pipe heatsink from 770m on card right now. 3 pipe is on its way.

    Question I have is with voltage.
    Everything is stable in gaming and benching . 3dmark 11 p8798.
    So no ptoblems. what so ever. I set the offset voltage at +37.5 because I read it somewhere. Not savy when it comes to voltage. Is voltage on needed when upping the memory speed or with upping core voltage to. How do I even know I need to change voltage. Is my voltage ok where it's at or can I go lower and be ok . I know lower voltage means lower heat. My temps are average 82c in benches and games. I hope 3pipe heatsink will help. Just want to understand or learn how to work with voltage for optimal performance. Thanks
     
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    first, I suggest setting your core to 1006 or 1007. The core clocks only ever clock up to a certain amount. For example, if I set my core clocks to 1020 or 1030, they will max out at 1019 and never go higher. Same with "950" clocks, they only hit "940". 954 would let it pass 950 though. I don't know why this exactly is. Anyway, your 1004 clocks are likely limiting your card to 993, so try 1006 or 1007 and see.

    Next, if that OC proves stable, try 1500 memory (6000 effective). In nVidia Inspector etc this would be a +500MHz overclock. It should work.

    As for the voltage, usually you want to find the least voltage that will keep the card working properly 24/7. I would suggest here that you try +25mV and see if it works stable. If you have a nice card, it might. If it crashes, go back to 37.5mV. There's another user on the forums who keeps his 1006/6000 card at +62.5mV because he doesn't have such a good card I believe.

    Anyway, just fiddle. I HIGHLY doubt it will work at stock voltage though; only if you're incredibly lucky.
     
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    I have mine at 1019 (effective 1006) / 6000 @ 1.062v. I can't go any higher in clocks nor does upping the voltage help. 1.050v was stable in some games BF4, it wasn't stable in titanfall because it kep resetting my clocks when it crashed so upping it to 1.062v was stable.

    though effectively i have a GTX 680 at base clocks though since there's no benchmark scores of the GTX 680 running at base clocks it's difficult to compare if i am on par with that card. But comparing other cards I have determined that I am performing around the same level as a GTX 760 with a nice overclock as the scores between the GTX 760 and my 780M is about a 500 point gap in firestrike.
     
  29. Player2

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    Ok I did change core up to 1008 and it now shows 1006 in game . You were right it was showing 993mhz before. Kinda weird why it does that.
    As far as +25mv I will set it there and bechmarks an game to see if remains stable.

    As far as memory you lost me there. I'm using I nvidia inspector and my core is showing 1008 and memory is showing 2900 with +400 and 3000 with +500. If I try to get memory to say 6000 my screen goes all crazy and have to turn off laptop.lol . Kinda thought I broke something.
     
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    The core clocks at 13MHz increments is what I was told.

    as for the memory the monitoring software isn't compatible with how the memory speed is being read so I also have my memory speed at +500 but in GPU-Z it shows as 1500MHz...that's because GPU-Z can't detect the right speed so all you need to do is just multiply (in your head) by 4 and 1500 is 6000....you can even check the card info in the nvidia control panel to confirm it is running at 6000MHz.

    [​IMG]

    EDIT: I downclocked to 1009MHz and yes it still maxes at 1006MHz so I think i'll keep it there :D
     
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    Why do you have your voltage so hi . Mine says .837 or something like that unless nvidia inspector is not showing correct voltage. I have 1008 core effective 1006. +500 memm and +25 mv. I just ran Unheavan and 3dmark 11. 3dmark 11 was p8937. No issues. Haven't tried gaming with these settings thoogh. Should my voltage be set higher.
    And do you guys game and stuff with these settings 24/7 . Or just do it for benching purposes. Because it seems this is pretty sweet and stable spot for 780m. Seems will go higher but I'm just wanting to set up good stable for gaming. Sorry for so many questions but I've never overclocked before. Kinda fun .lol
     
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    3DMark 11 kept crashing and games like titanfall kept crashing, but at 1.062v for me it is stable. remember that every 780M is like a person: individuals and should be treated as such - some don't need a lot others need a push to get them going :D

    Do some real gaming and see if it is stable for you and adjust accordingly.

    . 837v is when it should be running when there's low usage like when you're at the desktop. It should clock up when you get into games.
     
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    I noticed when I click apply clocks and voltage in I nvidia inspector my voltage temperarly say 1.025 the goes back to .837 . So mine is almost same as yours. I knew that they couldn't be that far apart .
    Do you game and use your system set like this for gaming and everyday use or just for benching.
     
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    My settings are for gaming but I leave on 24/7. I also set my card's power management to adaptive so that it isn't running at 1.062v all the time and shorten the lifespan quicker as a result.

    If you compare it to a desktop in terms of performance you're pretty much beating a GTX 760 and a 660 Ti at stock.
     
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    Thanks guys for helping me understand and learn.

    This is great. My computer came with 770m and I never messed with it . It was stock everything from factory for a year. Then bought a 780m from a member and decided to enter the world of overclocking. It's like having a new laptop with twice the power . Unbelievable.
    Couldn't be happier. Jump up and down.
    Merry Christmas to all.
     
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    remember to create a custom fan table to control your temps :D
     
  37. Player2

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    How do I do that.
     
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    what system are you using? i know how to set it for an alienware 17 using HWinfo64.
     
  39. Player2

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    I have 2013 alienware 17
     
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    i recommend you that you follow my post cos the fan tables in the BIOS/UEFI aren't all that great and for games like far cry 4 i was seeing temps into the 80s at 1080p and in the mid 70s at 900p. Idle temps without constant airflow was in the mid 40s.

    But with constant airflow i haven't seen many games push into 70 deg c though some will spike into the 70s and I am ok with that. Dragon Age: Inquisition doesn't really push into the 70s and stays under 70. My idle temps went down from the 40s (about 42-45) into the 30s between 30-34 deg c so constant airflow, IMHO, is important for keeping your PC's components all good and in working order. This is when i have my power management for the GPU set to adaptive, if i set it to prefer max performance then it'll go into the same range as the temps without airflow.
     
  43. Player2

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    I only have 75w 2pipe heatsink at the moment also. Should have original 100w 3pipe heatsink by next week. That should hopefully help a few degrees.
    Later when I get back home I will read over your thread and set up hwinfo fan tables. I also noticed the fan table thingy in nvidia inspector is greyed out.
     
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    yeah cos it's locked in the BIOS so you'll need HWinfo64 to do the fan control for you.
     
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    I looked into the fan control and decided just to back of my overclock adventure a little bit .
    I set it to +100 core and +200 memory with no overvoltage and card stays around 72 while gaming. I'm happy with that for now until I get my 3pipe heatsink. Once I get and install it I will go back up with my overclock and voltages and if still running in the 82s or higher after that I will make adjustments to fans. At least now I know what the card can do.

    Thanks for all your help theghosts
     
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    no problem, so long as you got a decent thermal paste applied and have a constant airflow going it should be more managable and controllable.

    EDIT: or perhaps keep it at stock speeds as it might generate less heat as a result.
     
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    Still trying to figure this overclocking out.
    Correct me if I'm wrong please.
    You start with core and go up slowly until reach instability in benches and games then back off until it stable constantly .
    Then you start with memory in creasing until it glitches out or artifacts. Then in crease voltage and keep going up with memory until it can't hold stable with higher memory or voltage.
    Do you use voltage increase on the card just when trying to get higher memory clocks . Or is the voltage help the core clock also .
     
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    Voltage is needed for high cores too.
     
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    the voltage has no effect on the memory, it only affects the core clock. a mild OC would be around 1006/6000 but you'll need to up the voltage to make it stable.
     
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    So pretty much you keep going up with everything until the card gives out and then you back off or thermals become a problem before the card gives out and then you back off also. So pretty much you guys have the cards living on the edge of melting or just completely tweaking out.
     
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